So some basic math on this current GA 5v5 with ships.... if you clear all character squads you get 270 banners for the zone. If you clear the single ship zone you can max 66 banners for the win + 155 for the zone. The ship zone is useless. 155+66=221 < 270So because i have stronger ships and held the zone it had no correlative effect on the outcome of the match. When match making includes ship gp and there is an imbalance in character vs. Ships it is always going to favor of the higher character gp. Just sayin.... glad there aren't Zetas being lost on this one. Its basic arithmetic.

I cleared all squads except for revan because i don't have revan to counter. So effectively i had 1 squad unconquered. My opponent cleared all squads but left 1 ship fleet unconquered. 270+16 = 286. The minimum banners earned if i had been able to clear the final squad. 155+16= 181. The minimum banners earned by opponent if able to clear the final fleet. That's over 100 banners of difference for essentially the same outcome. 1 unfinished battle. But because the opponent had higher character gp by over 200K the opponent was in a stronger position to win the zone worth more banners. The opponent didn't even have to try to attack the fleet because the outcome was predeterminedOr to put it in different terms. Winning character zone + defending character zone = 540 banners. Winning ships + defending ships = 310 banners. A difference of 230

"Kyno;c-1837004" wrote:Beating 1 team should be equal to beating multiple? (Number dependent on GP)I don't take your meaning? Edited * i do understand your question but i pose a question of my own. ... when two opponents win the same number of battles. (5 each) and two opponents each have 1 battle unfinished and 1 zone unconquered.... why is the point differential 230 regardless of strength of win? There is an insurmountable difference in total banners. * My point is that the zones are preferential to character gp. So the matchmaking taking into account total gp will predominantly favor players who neglect ships

If you face someone who neglects ships, then simply beat all his teams and his ships. If you cant beat all his toons, ships shouldnt reward you for that. They should punish people who neglect them.Unfortunately the power creep totally negates this logic. If you dont have revan. You can't beat revan. Anyway the point is being avoided. If a player neglects ships their gp will be predominantly character based. The current matchmaking and the current territory structure is biased towards character gp. A balanced roster is ALWAYS at a disadvantage. I'm not saying anyways going to lose. I'm saying ALWAYS HANDICAPPED

"Kyno;c-1837100" wrote:The point is, ships is not meant to be a main focus of GA, meaning it will never be a tipping point.Says who? Is there an official statement to that effect or is it just your personal opinion?"Kyno;c-1837100" wrote:Winning 1 ships match shouldnt be equal to winning 1 character match.No, it should be worth more. Matchmaking is by GP and a fully powered up ship is valued at over 2x the GP of a fully powered up character.

"Cykodrumzz;d-201579" wrote: The ship zone is useless. 155+66=221 < 270So because i have stronger ships and held the zone it had no correlative effect on the outcome of the match. .Let's get back to basics here. This is the only comment that bears weight

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Rath_Tarr0
7 years ago
Defeating a maxed fleet - about 400k GP - gets you up to 66 banners.

Defeating a maxed squad - about 125k GP - gets you up to 64 banners.

Fleet GP is heavily de-valued in the victory calculation.
Pengin83
7 years ago
"Rath_Tarr;c-1838108" wrote:
Defeating a maxed fleet - about 400k GP - gets you up to 66 banners.

Defeating a maxed squad - about 125k GP - gets you up to 64 banners.

Fleet GP is heavily de-valued in the victory calculation.

Good point! I never thought about it that way. Maybe the problem isn’t so much the squad GP bonus for clearing the territory but in the individual battles themselves.
emvedebe
7 years ago
"Rath_Tarr;c-1838108" wrote:
Defeating a maxed fleet - about 400k GP - gets you up to 66 banners.

Defeating a maxed squad - about 125k GP - gets you up to 64 banners.

Fleet GP is heavily de-valued in the victory calculation.

Ships just have a too high GP rating.
55k for my silencer, only 22k for my KRU. That's the issue, not that you can earn more banners with squad.
Rath_Tarr0
7 years ago
"leef;c-1838155" wrote:
"Rath_Tarr;c-1838108" wrote:
Defeating a maxed fleet - about 400k GP - gets you up to 66 banners.

Defeating a maxed squad - about 125k GP - gets you up to 64 banners.

Fleet GP is heavily de-valued in the victory calculation.

Ships just have a too high GP rating.
55k for my silencer, only 22k for my KRU. That's the issue, not that you can earn more banners with squad.

Whichever way you look at it there is a very clear mismatch between the matchmaking cost and the combat value of ships.

Either the flags awarded for winning a ship battle needs to be increased significantly to reflect their GP value or the GP value of ships needs to be scaled down significantly for matchmaking purposes.
emvedebe
7 years ago
"Rath_Tarr;c-1838170" wrote:
"leef;c-1838155" wrote:
"Rath_Tarr;c-1838108" wrote:
Defeating a maxed fleet - about 400k GP - gets you up to 66 banners.

Defeating a maxed squad - about 125k GP - gets you up to 64 banners.

Fleet GP is heavily de-valued in the victory calculation.

Ships just have a too high GP rating.
55k for my silencer, only 22k for my KRU. That's the issue, not that you can earn more banners with squad.

Whichever way you look at it there is a very clear mismatch between the matchmaking cost and the combat value of ships.

Either the flags awarded for winning a ship battle needs to be increased significantly to reflect their GP value or the GP value of ships needs to be scaled down significantly for matchmaking purposes.

Those two options are vastly different imo. Increasing the banners will make ships way too important just to adjust for their GP value.

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