GAC Data collection tools should be stopped.

I surely don't like it anyway. Game becomes so payable not only to CG but also to bots collecting and/or analyzing data (what next - bots playing battles for you, lol?), some Peempos setting you mods and giving farming advices?
Where is the good old SWGOH?..

"Austin9370;c-1957956" wrote:

"taquillasun;c-1957953" wrote:

"Hotsauce;c-1957937" wrote:
That didn't take long. For a bit of clarification...

This goes along the lines of my TW tools that guilds use. It helps you collect information about your own GAC History and your opponents, using only data that was available to you. It is no different than recording your matches in excel or some type of spreadsheet tool. It is just a record keeping system that helps streamline that process. It is not sharing or aggregating information that you did not collect yourself.

Just wanted to make that important distinction.

Hotsauce

I still think it takes some fun out.

Though I don't really have serious reservations about my next opponent knowing what I set for the last match. Because what I set depends so much on their roster. Though, from what you said, that's not what's going on here.

My only issue with someone I don't know posting my previous defenses is that they will gain a picture of my tendencies vs. certain types of teams. They could mod to counter that. That might not be out right cheating, but it's not in the spirit of fair play.

That's not even what's happening. Two separate things. This service allows you to record your own history. Nothing more. Use excel if you want. It's the same.

The 2nd item, is another discord server. That should be the complaint if any.

Yeah I got that. That's why I even said "Though from what you said, that's not happening here"

I could have done a better job separating the two items in my response.

As far as the discord server, once again, what I wrote. I don't care too much. It's just shady and not in the spirit of fair competition.

"Dmitry_M81;c-1957978" wrote:
I surely don't like it anyway. Game becomes so payable not only to CG but also to bots collecting and/or analyzing data (what next - bots playing battles for you, lol?), some Peempos setting you mods and giving farming advices?
Where is the good old SWGOH?..

First Biggs wins!

I mean - let players use their skills )

Those that want their defense to be a secret to their opponents or future opponents are in for a rude awakening.

CG has already said they are looking into putting battle history data up in gac in the future and until then possibly on swgoh.gg.

This is to better identify cheaters. Right now, it is hard to tell if someone full clears you legitimately with a 60 banner per fight average or if they cheated. A battle log will help with that.

Once that's added, it is only a matter of time before that data gets aggregated and is available to look at. Those that set the same defense every time will have to deal with it.

It really is no different than when viewing you opponent's roster was added. It's just the direction the game is heading.

Personally, I want to be able to see what teams beat mine. I have had a few matches where my team was blown away. More details would make it easier to determine if I were cheated, or if not, what I need to do better with my defense.

So in my opinion, having this information, is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the downside. Now I do think they will make sure the round is over beforr putting the data up as well they should.

"Vertigo;c-1957942" wrote:

The idea behind it is to allow you to save your own previous GAC battles so you know what worked well and what didn't in the future if you come up against someone with similar rosters and modding. The creator said he's thinking about, but doesn't think CG would like that and might shut him down if he allowed people to access that information. (Which is probably true). So for now, it seems like it's just something you could do yourself if you wanted to keep track of your previous GAC matches, but the bot will do it for you so you can see it easier.

Yeah, but creator does have access to information, right? I can't believe it won't be sold

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957982" wrote:
Those that want their defense to be a secret to their opponents or future opponents are in for a rude awakening.

CG has already said they are looking into putting battle history data up in gac in the future and until then possibly on swgoh.gg.

This is to better identify cheaters. Right now, it is hard to tell if someone full clears you legitimately with a 60 banner per fight average or if they cheated. A battle log will help with that.

Once that's added, it is only a matter of time before that data gets aggregated and is available to look at. Those that set the same defense every time will have to deal with it.

It really is no different than when viewing you opponent's roster was added. It's just the direction the game is heading.

Personally, I want to be able to see what teams beat mine. I have had a few matches where my team was blown away. More details would make it easier to determine if I were cheated, or if not, what I need to do better with my defense.

So in my opinion, having this information, is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the downside. Now I do think they will make sure the round is over beforr putting the data up as well they should.

Right, but it should be available only after the match and not being collected by third party (who can sell access to it). Do you agree with it?

"Dmitry_M81;c-1957983" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1957942" wrote:

The idea behind it is to allow you to save your own previous GAC battles so you know what worked well and what didn't in the future if you come up against someone with similar rosters and modding. The creator said he's thinking about, but doesn't think CG would like that and might shut him down if he allowed people to access that information. (Which is probably true). So for now, it seems like it's just something you could do yourself if you wanted to keep track of your previous GAC matches, but the bot will do it for you so you can see it easier.

Yeah, but creator does have access to information, right? I can't believe it won't be sold

The best way to handle it from a dev standpoint is to make previous battle history viewable in game just like you can view the rosters. That evens the playing field.

"taquillasun;c-1957928" wrote:
If one of the people in my GA asked me what my former opponent is setting. I would message them back saying I wouldn't feel okay in telling them. Sorry, the answer is NO!

I too would never ask for such info.

This seems to be walking a line.... it just feels shady. So I'm with you.

You say if...Is this not normal? Maybe it’s just because I would usually reach out and start casual conversations with everyone in my group, but I would say at least once per group I would have someone offer up what my opponent set on D previously without me even asking. I always assumed my opponents were getting the same information, so I would actually specifically rotate my defenses to counter anyone overplaying them. I rarely really used the info provided to me much because I was always worried about my opponent doing the same thing I was and baiting me into something. Maybe I just overthink these things ?

"Dmitry_M81;c-1957985" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957982" wrote:
Those that want their defense to be a secret to their opponents or future opponents are in for a rude awakening.

CG has already said they are looking into putting battle history data up in gac in the future and until then possibly on swgoh.gg.

This is to better identify cheaters. Right now, it is hard to tell if someone full clears you legitimately with a 60 banner per fight average or if they cheated. A battle log will help with that.

Once that's added, it is only a matter of time before that data gets aggregated and is available to look at. Those that set the same defense every time will have to deal with it.

It really is no different than when viewing you opponent's roster was added. It's just the direction the game is heading.

Personally, I want to be able to see what teams beat mine. I have had a few matches where my team was blown away. More details would make it easier to determine if I were cheated, or if not, what I need to do better with my defense.

So in my opinion, having this information, is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the downside. Now I do think they will make sure the round is over beforr putting the data up as well they should.

Right, but it should be available only after the match and not being collected by third party. Do you agree this it?

Yeah after the match and then available in game so your next opponent could see what you placed but you could see what they placed. Then it's fair.