GAC Kyber 1 bracket depletion

What I assume is a ripple effect is being felt. I'm in K3. Accounts with 9 and 10 mill GP plus 5 or 6GLs isn't that unusual.

Didn't used to be that way.

I brought this up when this system was rolled out, and was told the squish is normal for this type of ranking system in other games.

But the obvious question is, if we are getting squished every few months, and we are designed to only have a 50% win rate…doesn’t that mean that K1 (and eventually K2?) will keep getting smaller and smaller due to the continued squish?

"AlexanderG;c-2400782" wrote:
What I assume is a ripple effect is being felt. I'm in K3. Accounts with 9 and 10 mill GP plus 5 or 6GLs isn't that unusual.

Didn't used to be that way.

I noticed the same thing. I have 9.4 mil GP, used to lurk between low K1/high K2; now I’m floating around low K2, about 100 points above K3. And still I’m seeing the 9.5-10 mil GP accounts I’ve always been seeing.

It seems like this is the result of the ongoing squish and a designed 50% win rate.

"TheDude420;c-2400785" wrote:


But the obvious question is, if we are getting squished every few months, and we are designed to only have a 50% win rate…doesn’t that mean that K1 (and eventually K2?) will keep getting smaller and smaller due to the continued squish?

Not just K1 or 2... if you keep this long enough, eventually it will affect K3, then K4 and K5 and then Aurodium and so on.
It already does in a way. I just take my account as example: If I have a 50% winrate I more or less should keep my position,
but for a few GACs now the squish always takes away points, so to keep my position I would have to win more and more, which per the implemented system is not possible. So after a while people will drop more and more

"Screerider;c-2400809" wrote:
Pretty sure the squish retains your position, unless someone can show an example of someone with higher Skill Rating being squished below someone who had a lower Skill Rating.

Also, Squishing up is apparently a thing as well.

A player's position in regards to other players is in no way relevant. Their position in the division/ League is.

If they lose points with every new squish they will drop and drop. Which means they will get less and less rewards.

Also, how nice that squishing up is a thing... but how does that help all those players that permanently get squished down? There is no "it evens out after a while". I posted screenshots here as proof before. For quite a while the squish always removed points from me, points I permanently lost and that I can not just simply "make good" by winning more if the system keeps me at a 50% winrate while simultaniously higher players get squished down aswell, making it even harder to be able to win against them.

i guess the algorithm is designed to make kyber leagues slowly smaller. the idea is that players will invest more, if they fear to be relegated. if the numbers from above are true, kyber 1 decreased by 80%. no way you can explain this just with no signins or people quitting since then.

It’s designed to reward players less in a slow manner of reducing the number of players in each high end league.

"Scarecrowlfc;c-2400860" wrote:
Honestly its pretty simple, the more players that quit while in those ranks the less there will be. You cant gain the points of players who have stopped joining. If there is less players in kyber 1-4 joining there will naturally be less players in kyber 1 with how the skill point system works

There is plenty of evidence that the same if not more people are joining gac, so it's not about people not joining. You need to go 6-3 in a season or your skill ranking in k1 will be less than it was to start a season. There are plenty of posts and people tracking the numbers.

It might be working as intended by CG but from a player perspective it feels unfair and unintuitive. If you win 50% of your matches you’re obviously playing with people of similar skill level, then it makes no sense that your skill points in game are decreasing further because of the squish.
Either you should get more points for a “win” than is deducted for a “loss” and use the squish to remove inactive players over time. Or if you have the same score for wins/losses just get rid of the squish.
It feels a bit dishonest that you moved our crystal income to GAC and slowly reduce it over time by pushing down the reward levels artificially.

I tried talking about the squish issue with CG last week but i am not well versed on this enough

@Taliana what's your input / suggestion on whether this is an issue or not and what's your proposed solution?