GAC Matchmaking Mess...

"CCyrilS;c-1951332" wrote:

"SemiGod;c-1951328" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-1951327" wrote:

"OBoogieIII;c-1951324" wrote:
@TVF you don’t think people should be able to win every match? What’s the point of playing if you have no chance to win? It’s a waste of time.
I think every match should be winnable, I think you shouldn’t be matched against someone if you can’t win. It’s a huge waste of time if you’re unable to win.
If that’s the case they should just ggo be the awards out before hand so we don’t waste a week of our lives fee.

What's the point of playing if you have no chance to lose?

I mean I'd rather be in favour of winning than losing ;D

Lol sure. But a game is no fun when there's no competition. I can totally school my 5yr old at 1 on 1, but i don't get too much out of it.

Tru but when there's a prize for winning y'know ;)

"OBoogieIII;c-1951324" wrote:
@TVF you don’t think people should be able to win every match? What’s the point of playing if you have no chance to win? It’s a waste of time.
I think every match should be winnable, I think you shouldn’t be matched against someone if you can’t win. It’s a huge waste of time if you’re unable to win.
If that’s the case they should just ggo be the awards out before hand so we don’t waste a week of our lives fee.

Improve your roster and/or your tactics.

It's ridiculously hard to get matchmaking perfect.

THIS IS WHY in GAC winners advance their leagues much more quickly and losers don't, and thus during your next round-of-8 you'll be paired up with people who, since they're from the same league are winning and losing about as much as you are.

Start with the numbers we've got, imperfect as they are, and you get rough matches that are good for many but bad for many. The next week, the matches get better. The week after that, they get better still. By week 5, you get really good and interesting matches. Like everyone, I rarely win my round of 8 (since only 12.5% of people win their round-of-8), but I win more than my share because some people nope-out just because they don't like the game mode. Although they're signed up for free rewards, they're not actually trying and won't ever win.

While there're certainly some things that EA/CG could do to make initial matchups a little better, nothing can tell you in advance whether someone is going to choose to nope-out. Nothing will tell you whether they're good at strategy or just bought their g12-g13 toons. So some matchups won't be good. In that first GAC, And yet, I got squashed several times in the opening round or two by people who completely outclassed me. But by week 5 I got to Aurodium and I was playing for #1 in my final round-of-8. My opponent had more g12s, but I had Revan (no Malak) and zCarth and a somewhat decent BroodAlpha geo team. Would my opponent's focus or my diversity win the day?

It turned on strategy and my opponent was more efficient at cutting through my defenses, but in the end couldn't beat my last defensive squad. The match wasn't decided by 1 or 2 points, but it was decided by that last squad: even if it was his 58th attack that defeated them, the territory bonus would have given him the win because I had used multiple attack squads to defeat more than one of his defending groups, but he'd had enough power that the 7 battles he won, he won first try in dominating fashion. He just ran out of firepower.

We chatted before the battle and after, and now we're allies & still chat occasionally. That was a fantastic matchup for final bragging rights. It was everything it should have been, and I ended up in that match up not just because of the battles I won, but also for the battles I lost.

So remember: the opening battles, as mismatched as they can be sometimes, are part of the overall matchmaking process. By the time you hit week 3, you should have good matchups, and occasionally great matchups the rest of the way. In short: the 5 week format is part of how they're fixing matchmaking, so don't judge too quickly.

"SemiGod;c-1951182" wrote:

"OBoogieIII;c-1951132" wrote:
@SemiGod the hard truth is the system is designed to limit the amount you can progress a single day. The hard truth is that system limits how quickly you can get to gear 13. The hard truth is it doesn’t matter how many gear 12 toons you have if a single team of gear 13 meta team can eliminate your entire roster. The hard truth is that meta team does not need to be gear 13. The hard truth is the relics are only going to crest more distance between the whales and everyone else. The hard truth is you get nothing but hate on the forum by people who defend every single little mistake because they’re the problem. The people that spend big time are the ones ruining the game. It’s funny because when people figure out a way to even the odds, like certain rosters that can win. The whales are the first ones complying and crying. How many times are they going to cause poor snaking to get nerfed? But when the tables turn they want to talk about should’ve played smarter, ie spent more. When f2p complain there’s so much venom thrown at them on this forum and they’re told to just deal with it. It’s sickening the amount of abuse you see on this forum. All from people who want to defend the mistakes made. Anyone can take a simple look and see the matchmaking isn’t equal. But until it causes the whales issues nothing will be done. Now bash away I’m full prepared.

The hard truth is that I'm not going to read that because a giant block of text is a pain to read.

Space them out :P

"Hard to read"? How old are you? 6?

"SemiGod;c-1951326" wrote:

"OBoogieIII;c-1951324" wrote:
@TVF you don’t think people should be able to win every match? What’s the point of playing if you have no chance to win? It’s a waste of time.
I think every match should be winnable, I think you shouldn’t be matched against someone if you can’t win. It’s a huge waste of time if you’re unable to win.
If that’s the case they should just ggo be the awards out before hand so we don’t waste a week of our lives fee.

Half the time idk if this guys trolling or not lol.

We've already established that you can't read because "It's too hard", and it looks like comprehension is out the window as well. Sad...

"TVF;c-1951358" wrote:

"OBoogieIII;c-1951324" wrote:
@TVF you don’t think people should be able to win every match? What’s the point of playing if you have no chance to win? It’s a waste of time.
I think every match should be winnable, I think you shouldn’t be matched against someone if you can’t win. It’s a huge waste of time if you’re unable to win.
If that’s the case they should just ggo be the awards out before hand so we don’t waste a week of our lives fee.

Improve your roster and/or your tactics.

Uhhh...no sh*t. Sherlock...

They only need to pair us up with people who got the same points...
It is fair and if you are #1 you can really say that you are one of the best inside your division.

Right now the matchmaking is just luck based... Just get a weak opponent with 0 points who doesn't even care about GA and you win or even get a free round...

"Akenno;c-1951416" wrote:
They only need to pair us up with people who got the same points...
It is fair and if you are #1 you can really say that you are one of the best inside your division.

Right now the matchmaking is just luck based... Just get a weak opponent with 0 points who doesn't even care about GA and you win or even get a free round...

I basically agree but there should be some reward for having a better roster than 90% of your division, rather than just facing your exact level no matter how good or bad you are

@Cardiff0 this is not the nba, this is a mobile game. But, to your point, in the nba teams can have an off night, players get hurt, just not Interested. There’s always a chance. In this mobile game, there’s not always a chance to win every game. You can be matched with someone and have a zero chance of beating them. There’s no competitiveness there. I don’t think that’s fun for either party

@Waqui I agree with you. Everyone should be looking to improve their roster between GAC. That’s more or less the only point to this game, right? The only problem is, when you’re out against teams you can’t beat, it takes the fun away from getting ready.
Right now everyone has to have the same cookie cutter teams, or you can’t compete. I see the same teams every GAC. Everyone places the same teams on defense, I know what I’m facing. For me, the only trouble is, do they place Malak on defense, or not. If they do, I’ve most likely lost, if they don’t, I most likely win.

I think that’s an issue. I don’t feel like one team should be able to control an outcome of an entire match. Is it my fault for not farming them right away, or putting money into to get them faster? Yes it is, but I don’t really care for those characters so I did t want to spends months farming them.

Also, putting people in with people they have no shot at beating isn’t fun. You can try to improve between GAC, but the next one you’ll just be in with someone better. My opponent this week( I’ve been in both sides f this FYI) has 16 gear 13 toons, plus the meta team. I’ve got 4 gear 13 , no Dr, no Malak. Is that a fair matchup ? Is that something I can change between now and next GAC? No lol I’m sure I’ll get more gear 13, but I’ll just be in with a better opponent, or I could be the one next time that is built better.

I just don’t think you should be in unwinnable matches. If this is a strategy game there should be a strategy to win every match.