GAC system maybe ?

If you are 2M facing a 7M it's because they just join and don't do anything but one attack. And realistically you were probably on a win streak that brought you up to meet such a player. So really you are asking to stay on the win streak and face lesser rosters. Doesn't matter as eventually you will reach the point of a 50/50 ratio. Might not be tomorrow or the next day but it is coming. It's the whole point of this MM system.

"nfidel2k;c-2394075" wrote:

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2394068" wrote:
It's easy to state, in natural language, "keep active players engage each other". It's also easy to write code to do that, given a quantified definition of "active". The hard part is to give a quantified definition of "active" that won't break some other aspects of the mode.

This is the problem. It’s easy to pick out an inactive account. It’s much harder to determine why they are inactive. And I wouldn’t support a system that punishes accounts because of RL problems. Or establishes some sort of “you have to participate this much or stop playing” mentality.

Its not "stop playing" kind of thing. I never said they would be out of the chart completely, they would be in a pool that other inactive players stay in, matching with eachother. If they get enough matches with banners (which i like to call more than 0) they would change pools. Simple as that.

"harvestmouse;c-2394069" wrote:

"Silcrow;c-2394063" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2394007" wrote:
I think the fun factor is very important.

Going back to any GP match making in GAC (especially with the rewards in GAC now) would 100% affect the rest of your SWGOH. I really don't want that, and having experienced it, I don't think it's remotely a good idea.

Also, we need to think about the old 4/8 harvestmouse. GAC really wasn't fun for him, it was a real chore. Players like that and those with even worse win records would suffer and find it less fun than you guys are currently.

How hard is it to implement a code to detect player regularly lose with 0 banner and match them against eachother, while keeping active players engage eachother.

Well I'm not sure it is easy. So we're not looking at 0 banner attempts on the whole. To get rewards you need to attack at least once. So that could be anything from 10 to 69 banners.

Inactive players lose with 0 banners. Considering their relic’d defense vs g11 phenix, winning 10-0 just for trying is the only way to beat them in the little league.

"harvestmouse;c-2394069" wrote:

"Silcrow;c-2394063" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2394007" wrote:
I think the fun factor is very important.

Going back to any GP match making in GAC (especially with the rewards in GAC now) would 100% affect the rest of your SWGOH. I really don't want that, and having experienced it, I don't think it's remotely a good idea.

Also, we need to think about the old 4/8 harvestmouse. GAC really wasn't fun for him, it was a real chore. Players like that and those with even worse win records would suffer and find it less fun than you guys are currently.

How hard is it to implement a code to detect player regularly lose with 0 banner and match them against eachother, while keeping active players engage eachother.

Well I'm not sure it is easy. So we're not looking at 0 banner attempts on the whole. To get rewards you need to attack at least once. So that could be anything from 10 to 69 banners.

On the opposite side, you can have a disastrous offence, fail on half a dozen attempts and have less than 69 banners, but actually legitimately tried to win.

Are we then saying to players; ok you must play on even if you're sure to lose? That is a dead sure way of losing the player base or/and destroying morale.

Well, what i am trying to find solution is 0 banner people, which lower brackets i play suffer for. I didnt get matched with any played one match and throwed the rest of the battle type of guy yet, so i have no idea how severe that problem is and would be. This is a solution to a problem i saw, it doesnt have to answer all the problems, if that is a problem, feel free to find a solution for it too instead of trying to forge one answer for all problems

"Joebo720;c-2394076" wrote:
If you are 2M facing a 7M it's because they just join and don't do anything but one attack. And realistically you were probably on a win streak that brought you up to meet such a player. So really you are asking to stay on the win streak and face lesser rosters. Doesn't matter as eventually you will reach the point of a 50/50 ratio. Might not be tomorrow or the next day but it is coming. It's the whole point of this MM system.

Well, the thing we are trying to fix is not win/lose ratios or rewards. The problem is, it is not fun at all. Just because they dont play half of the time, they sink, sink, sink and come in carbonite&bronzium brackets and obligarate their enemies when they feel like it. And their opponents win with 10 banners if they dont feel like it. This is not a good gaming experience, wouldnt you agree? Would you want to play an PvP game that nearly one third of the matches you play tend to be someone that will stay afk half of the time or just gonna use you for target practice rest of the times?

"harvestmouse;c-2394069" wrote:

"Silcrow;c-2394063" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2394007" wrote:
I think the fun factor is very important.

Going back to any GP match making in GAC (especially with the rewards in GAC now) would 100% affect the rest of your SWGOH. I really don't want that, and having experienced it, I don't think it's remotely a good idea.

Also, we need to think about the old 4/8 harvestmouse. GAC really wasn't fun for him, it was a real chore. Players like that and those with even worse win records would suffer and find it less fun than you guys are currently.

How hard is it to implement a code to detect player regularly lose with 0 banner and match them against eachother, while keeping active players engage eachother.

Well I'm not sure it is easy. So we're not looking at 0 banner attempts on the whole. To get rewards you need to attack at least once. So that could be anything from 10 to 69 banners.

On the opposite side, you can have a disastrous offence, fail on half a dozen attempts and have less than 69 banners

Nice

@TheEvilestOne

Thing is we are all in the same boat. Fun is subjective, personally i was fine with crystal being tied to arena. Did better back then. But this is the system they chose to go with. And the system isn't so much about fun for CG it's about controlled crystal income. People at the top of arena shards were raking it in and those that weren't progressed slower. So it was a self fulfilling prophecy.

"Joebo720;c-2394082" wrote:
Thing is we are all in the same boat. Fun is subjective, personally i was fine with crystal being tied to arena. Did better back then. But this is the system they chose to go with. And the system isn't so much about fun for CG it's about controlled crystal income. People at the top of arena shards were raking it in and those that weren't progressed slower. So it was a self fulfilling prophecy.

I was at the top of arena and I'm still doing better this way (like, 4-5k per month better).

Are you a newer player?

"Joebo720;c-2394082" wrote:
Thing is we are all in the same boat. Fun is subjective, personally i was fine with crystal being tied to arena. Did better back then. But this is the system they chose to go with. And the system isn't so much about fun for CG it's about controlled crystal income. People at the top of arena shards were raking it in and those that weren't progressed slower. So it was a self fulfilling prophecy.

I would enjoy gac, regardless if there is crystal or not, and i would still criticize the system for not having a counter measure for lettign a 8 m account in carbontie cause that account doesnt play regularly

Just again I will suggest yearly based system. Refresh score once in a year, sorting it by GP and give players unlimited climb with skill like it is works now. GP matters for good start and good roster matters for effective gac. And big final reward at the end of the year.
I think it could suit everyone.

GP matters

Skill and strategy matters

Falling down or skipping punished with small reward at the end of the year

Every year fresh start and chance to do it better


May be it could be half year run to make it more dynamic