Galactic Legends pointless requirements

Why does it matter? Vet Han and Vet Chewie were useless after the JTR event. So what if you use them or not during the event. They were a means to an end. No different this time.

"TVF;c-2085968" wrote:
Why does it matter? Vet Han and Vet Chewie were useless after the JTR event. So what if you use them or not during the event. They were a means to an end. No different this time.

GAC made it matter a lot more. Some g8 vets don’t impact my top 80 GP, but R3 vets do. Plus, gearing to g8 was and is fairly insignificant.

I’m working on Kylo now, and it sucks to have 4 relic FO sit on my bench each round of GAC.

"Scuttlebutt;c-2085974" wrote:

"TVF;c-2085968" wrote:
Why does it matter? Vet Han and Vet Chewie were useless after the JTR event. So what if you use them or not during the event. They were a means to an end. No different this time.

GAC made it matter a lot more. Some g8 vets don’t impact my top 80 GP, but R3 vets do. Plus, gearing to g8 was and is fairly insignificant.

I’m working on Kylo now, and it sucks to have 4 relic FO sit on my bench each round of GAC.

Why? There are 10 FO toons and 3 of them have leader abilities.

"Its_not_a_moon;c-2085965" wrote:

"Akenno;c-2085958" wrote:
I am going for Kylo.

This is a long term goal and nothing to achieve within months! This is literally end game content.

I like the idea of the tickets but we should get a fixed amount and not a drop rate out of it.
If it is fixed, you could see it as some sort of raid ticket for singleplayer. I really want the ability to do a raid by myself. I hope they gonna do this in future.

I don't like the requirements but I can understand CG that they can monetize it.

And we don't know what will come in future. Maybe we need a R5 Rose?

Um. First of all No you don't need rose or any of the characters the require you to relic. Palpatine, vet chewie, vet han, non of them are needed to complete the event they are just pay wall.

2nd of all you don't like the requirement but you understand the monetization, so just so you know game went from having monetization for gear and shards into needing monetization for 5 brand new marquee characters that would give you a legendary character that would be the meta.
Into a you need 10 marquee characters at 20000 GP to get a character at 5*. Than the gear 13 came into the game with huge amounts of monetization especially from the top guilds, mandalore from maw had like what 35 gear 13 characters in 1 week? Than from gear 13 with in the shortest time ever relics came into the game with another huge opportunity for CG to gain truck loads of cash. And than GAS happened which this time around required 10 characters and 5 ships minimum to get him with the requirements going up to needing reliced characters. (But you actually used all of those characters and the event was fun) and now we need 24 characters at relic 5 and 7 just to get 2 characters. All I see is the same amount of effort from CG but 200x the profit. If you can't see this than I'm sorry for you

Yes. You don't need such chars right now or are you coming from the future?

GL's are pure for endgame not something mid-term / end-term like GS.
Many people think that they need both GL chars ASAP. Why can't you guys just sit there and wait until you get there? Why do so many complain about it if they already know how it'll progress? It is endgame!

I look at it from the long term perspective, as we move forward, the old gear system will become secondary and the new focus will be on the relic system.

this is what happened to abilities, low level mats were a crunch and omegas were tough. That has slowly transitioned to omegas being the slight crunch and zetas being the end all be all. (for now)

The point of this system was to allow them to have a use for more gear, and I bet we will see an increase in gear moving forward that will allow us to get up past current crunches to relics faster, but relics will start to be the focus. once relics are the focus, just like gear the low levels will be fairly easy (R4) and moving up will be "the choices" we need to make.

Saying you want goals, but dont like this one is fine, but the overall system/concept seems to be working towards a new long term goal of development for the future.

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events with requirements that are not tied to the event is a new thing but is still in the same realm of what we have seen before.

requirements have always had different levels between what is needed to get in and what is needed for the event, and what is needed to not feel like you are going to break your phone before unlocking.

This is a new event, things do seem a little off and maybe they will make changes, but overall there is a good grounds of a concept here and I hope we see more events that have this breadth, but maybe more depth too. events at this level should be grand in scale. having not done the event I cannot directly speak to the detail involved, but I know many are a little disappointed. (I reserve judgement until I have done it myself, watching someone else play games has never been my thing.)

"Scuttlebutt;c-2085998" wrote:

"SithVicious;c-2085979" wrote:

"Scuttlebutt;c-2085974" wrote:

"TVF;c-2085968" wrote:
Why does it matter? Vet Han and Vet Chewie were useless after the JTR event. So what if you use them or not during the event. They were a means to an end. No different this time.

GAC made it matter a lot more. Some g8 vets don’t impact my top 80 GP, but R3 vets do. Plus, gearing to g8 was and is fairly insignificant.

I’m working on Kylo now, and it sucks to have 4 relic FO sit on my bench each round of GAC.

Why? There are 10 FO toons and 3 of them have leader abilities.

A common counter for KRU lead FO is resistance. I put Hux in that team to slow down resistance. At the time of this last GAC, my sith trooper was still g11 and 6*, so I save him for sith. That leaves 4 FO that don’t have a home. And believe, I tried them on a separate team. It’s a free 60+ point win for my opponent.

Because of my FO toons with high gear, I faced more opponents with relics on separatists, GR, and other top teams. Relic phasma and some tie pilots don’t do much against top tier pvp teams.

You should know that.

I’ve been keeping my KRU team on offense, with relics they are a really good NS counter which frees up whatever other teams I used to use for them. They are one of those teams that the AI will never get right.
From what I understand, a good Sith Trooper is key, so I see where that hurts you. They might work as a defense that forces your opponent to burn a good team for a surprise in the back? That’s what makes GAC interesting.

In every event we have ever done, you never had to level and gear up a full faction, you only had to level and gear up people needed for the event itself. I expected the event to be the entire story and require you to use Finn and Rose and Holdo and even have a ship battle involved. What we got was not on that level. As it stands I'm more impressed by the hero journeys then I am what we got with the galactic legends.

"Kyno;c-2086002" wrote:
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This is a new event, things do seem a little off and maybe they will make changes, but overall there is a good grounds of a concept here and I hope we see more events that have this breadth, but maybe more depth too. events at this level should be grand in scale. having not done the event I cannot directly speak to the detail involved, but I know many are a little disappointed. (I reserve judgement until I have done it myself, watching someone else play games has never been my thing.)

I slightly agree with your stance on gear, however, completely disagree with your stance on the event. The event was nothing but a dumbed down version of a journey guide. There is no good grounds here, first two battles are basically the same as the last three. The only thing this event did right was the backgrounds, even though they are repeating in the last three battles.

As you said “ events at this level should be grand in scale” and I agree, they should be. This event fails on all accounts and is not grand by far. I understand you have to defend them, but this comes off hollow and forced. I hope we never see an event like this ever again. Only good news is that they can (hopefully) go up from here.

Going off of the OP's thread title only I'm not sure how anyone can disagree.

I'm not arguing about the difficulty levels to enter, the gear levels, the relics, the format, the background or anything. If CG wants you to r7 Rose to get Rey then so be it. State it as a requirement and let's get after it. The GL is currently end game, meaning something big to strive for so any complaints I see about how hard it is, or how people can't get it right away then I say boo-hoo. To bad. It should be that way.

That being said if you're going to make us gear up a worthless turd of a toon that will otherwise become a mechanism for collecting dust and have zero use or value add after the event at the very least give us the few minutes in the event where we can feel like it was necessary. Otherwise it's just plain lazy. The veterans were not fun to grind, but at least it wasn't r5 required and you got to at the very least use them during the event for something. They played a role apart from just being a grind/wall.

Saying get Rose to r5 feels like you did a DB scan and saw how few people have her farmed and said why not. Let's make her a requirement to create a pay wall/grind. Then you sat around the table and were like great now how in the world do we incorporate her in a way that makes sense and someone just said why bother. I mean you did the bare minimum right? You didn't pick CUP or Mob Enforcer. Rose is at least in the same movies as Rey, but you just as well could have.I guess. You probably held back from picking those because veteran players from years of playing may have accidentally gotten them to 7 star by mow as a result of GW drops.(Ok now I'm being cynical. That's unfair of me, but it's what it feels like)

When I saw Veteran Han as an initial requirement there was some griping in the community of why take a toon like that so high in gear, but to me it was smart. Han played a huge role in shaping who Kylo is. I loved the idea regardless of the grind. I figured for the event they'll have some cool and creative way to work him in the event. Boy am I silly........

In the words of Michael Scott. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....strike three.

"Kyno;c-2086002" wrote:

This is a new event, things do seem a little off and maybe they will make changes, but overall there is a good grounds of a concept here and I hope we see more events that have this breadth, but maybe more depth too. events at this level should be grand in scale. having not done the event I cannot directly speak to the detail involved, but I know many are a little disappointed. (I reserve judgement until I have done it myself, watching someone else play games has never been my thing.)

Events that have this breadth? Good grounds of concept? This event or are you talking about Malak or Darth Reven? The Malak event had some interesting mechanics and was interesting to play. This is just lazy.

I think people are upset about the requirement because the event does not even use them. Look back to Old Ben and Vader fighting in the CLS event. That had story, that had a new mechanic, that was fun to see, that was interesting. When we see Vet Han for the Kylo Ren event we assume something as cinematic is coming. Instead you can do the event without using him. Why require a capital ship without a ship level? This is lazy and if the requirements are going to be this hard, please just make it interesting.

I completely disagree that "there is a good grounds of a concept here". There is no new concept here accept gear and relic useless (for the event) characters. Maybe the character will have a use later but do not tell us it is for the event. That is simple not the case.

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More disappointed than Angry