It isn't all about GP. Your opponent has the same skill level. He/she could have a bad strategy, bad mods or participation isn't great.With the right strategy, there is still a chance you can win.

That isn't even much of a disparity tbh. But like the reply above you can have better mods more GL and omicron starkiller etc or better skilled overall

There's a guy in my collective's starter guild who has 972k GP. His opponent in round 1 was 3.6 mil GP.If I have to explain to you how lopsided that is then something is wrong.

The old division systems didn't work either. A hybrid of them both would.That way you get fair matchups across a similar GP range

"Azhriaz;c-2352682" wrote:Still, there is a point where the difference is too big. I have 3.6M GP and am currently in Chrome 2.My opponents usually have more than 5M GP. I know I can beat opponents with 5.1M GP - I already have.But against opponents with 6M GP I simply have absolutely no chance. Then why am I in Chrome 2? Because the opponents don't attack! My last two opponents (7.1M and 6.4M) didn't attack.And that's just frustrating. I can only win if the opponent doesn't attack.Sorry, but this is no fun.I don't mind losing, but I want real competition. I'm happy when I can beat someone who has more GP. I'm not sad when someone who supposedly is weaker beats me.But winning because the other doesn't attack is pointless.Therefore the GP should play a role, at least as a factor.That's a huge difference & if folks are saying its not, they're delusional. People like to troll on here & make you feel like you don't have a valid point or that you are alone. Don't listen to those people. Things like this need to be posted. That is basically twice you're GP & no matter how good your roster is at that level. 2x your size is too much. Sorry you got that matchup

Getting old with the GP disparity - every level is having this problem besides Kyber 1

Baullroomblitz
3 years ago
This system is unbelievably flawed. I'm sitting at 3.6m GP and my past two opponents this season have had 6.3m GP and 5.8m GP respectively. Yes, I know "yOu'rE aT tHe SaME SKilL lEveL". It doesn't matter if my strategy is better when they put down a GL on each side in the front line along with other top tier teams. GA was basically the only thing in the game outside of TW that was still enjoyable but now I go into it, lose one battle, and instantly know I can't win. It's boring and lame on all levels. It's just going to be a constant cycle of losing 3 in a row, being relegated to a lower rating, winning, and then rinsing and repeating. There should still be brackets based on GP while ALSO including skill ratings. I should be facing people around 3.3m GP to 4.2m GP that share a similar skill rating as myself, making for the most fair matchups possible. It isn't something that should be hard to integrate, they've used both systems, just combine and refine.
RockYourWorldBi
3 years ago
Before i start, just wanna let u guys know I agree on what is stated in OP's opening.

1. Please understand that there is no such thing as an even match up

I'm K1 I have a 4GL person vs us having 6 GL. I won by the amount of toons that I have over that fellow. But if you are saying that my opponent is a push over ... U will be complaining if u meet him in his GP bracket. Because his mods are way better then mine (He is the last person on the right and I have great respect for him)

2. Work for your GL. Especially for those lower tiers. Like it or not, some people will have slimmer and better roster even at similar GP.

3. Be ok with a lose. 2Mil GP and up is a very bad match up. Move on, there are 2 other battles to win. And like what was posted previously, if you are fighting against high GP pp consistently, means you are very good at ur game to fight at their bracket.

4. There will always be people whom play with the system. Don't be bothered with them. Work on urself and get better.
CCyrilS
3 years ago
"Shawkat;c-2354363" wrote:
Let me save you some time. Here is how it actually works. For example in Kyber 2 most people only attack or try to win against opponents that are way below their roster. Because that is their only chance to win. So if they are facing similar roster, they don't really put much effort in. Let's say they have 8 mil GP and 6 GLs - basically a complete roster. They only attack an opponent with 3 GLs, because the chance to win there is higher. Just like in squad arena before where you could've picked easier and faster battles to climb. This is what's happening in GAC now.

Must be nice to be privy to all that data the rest of us don't have.
CCyrilS
3 years ago
"Shawkat;c-2354368" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2354364" wrote:
"Shawkat;c-2354363" wrote:
Let me save you some time. Here is how it actually works. For example in Kyber 2 most people only attack or try to win against opponents that are way below their roster. Because that is their only chance to win. So if they are facing similar roster, they don't really put much effort in. Let's say they have 8 mil GP and 6 GLs - basically a complete roster. They only attack an opponent with 3 GLs, because the chance to win there is higher. Just like in squad arena before where you could've picked easier and faster battles to climb. This is what's happening in GAC now.

Must be nice to be privy to all that data the rest of us don't have.

This is what I got when I spoke to my opponents.

What percentage of the players do you suppose you've spoken to?
M0st1yHarm1ess
New Spectator
3 years ago
"Shawkat;c-2354363" wrote:
Let me save you some time. Here is how it actually works. For example in Kyber 2 most people only attack or try to win against opponents that are way below their roster. Because that is their only chance to win. So if they are facing similar roster, they don't really put much effort in. Let's say they have 8 mil GP and 6 GLs - basically a complete roster. They only attack an opponent with 3 GLs, because the chance to win there is higher. Just like in squad arena before where you could've picked easier and faster battles to climb. This is what's happening in GAC now.

"Most people in K2" would likely be matched up with other "most people in K2". I guess whoever decides to not play by that rule would win?
Jerrick_Kharr87
3 years ago
It’s really fun going against an 8 mil GP with my 6.4 mil GP. Totally makes me want to pull out my card and spend money CG…
OfTheVeilGaming
Rising Traveler
3 years ago
I just beat someome at 11 mil GP which is over 3 mil more than me...
This is a mode of skill not brute force
o2itro1clxtj
New Spectator
3 years ago
"Solus_Imperius;c-2354529" wrote:
I just beat someome at 11 mil GP which is over 3 mil more than me...
This is a mode of skill not brute force

8 vs 11 there’s a ton of room for strategy. Which GLs where, what metas, what omi, fleets etc. in 5v5 in carbonite 1M vs 3-5M there’s no deployment that can help. This is the whole point of the original post. Works fine for those in Kyber. Sux for the other 95%.
baldeagle71
3 years ago
TL;DR - System is fine. Could be better but it is the best we have ever had.

As someone who is "skilled" and has risen well above my GP (started in Chromium 3 and will be in Kyber next season at 4.5m GP and 1GL) I almost never fight people lower GP than me. There is no point in whining that its too hard, I WANT competition I WANT my opponent to show up and kick my butt so I can try to kick theirs back. I win slightly more than half the time and most of the time when I lose it was because they had a bigger roster than me. If my "Skill" could make me win every time then it would be boring.. Much like computer AI cheats by having more resources, more units, etc because it can't compete with a players skill, its the same thing in GAC. If you want fair matchups (everyone finishes at .500 over the long term) then you have to adjust for differences in skill with GP differences. If you are facing higher GP accounts that means you have won more than they have. Its not complicated to me its just adjusting for skill by giving the less skilled more GP.
Weenz321
3 years ago
GA is in such a cruddy place.
Squish is pushing down everyone so you rise back up and fight the people with more GLs than you because they don't know how to play the game, but just set them all on defense.
It is so boring to go into GA with 3 GLs and get matched with people who have all 6.

Not to mention the game crashes all the time, it was fine in squad arena because you wait 10~ mins and go again.. in GA it can cost you the entire match. Bullsh*t place to put all the crystals now. It has lost most of it's fun.