CG said they re-did the matchmaking in the GAC and I am having a really hard time believing that. I am just over 8.1 million GP and I have 4 GL's at R7. In Round 1 of this current GAC my opponent was just shy of 9 million GP with all 6 GL's at R8. I won because my opponent did not set defense, so the AI set auto-defense and I was able to clear. In Round 2 my opponent has 8.3 million GP, all 6 GL's, with JML at R9 and the rest at R8. This is not improved matchmaking, it's hot garbage.

Matchmaking is at its worst ever in this Gac.

"Ian_Cloudfire05;d-252400" wrote:CG said they re-did the matchmaking in the GAC and I am having a really hard time believing that. I am just over 8.1 million GP and I have 4 GL's at R7. In Round 1 of this current GAC my opponent was just shy of 9 million GP with all 6 GL's at R8. I won because my opponent did not set defense, so the AI set auto-defense and I was able to clear. In Round 2 my opponent has 8.3 million GP, all 6 GL's, with JML at R9 and the rest at R8. This is not improved matchmaking, it's hot garbage. Matchmaking doesn't care about your GL's it cares about your skill rating. What was the skill rating of your opponents vs yours? I bet they were within 10 of each other. You might not LIKE the matchmaking but its working exactly as they told us it would.

Lol are we REALLY still talking about this? Yall know this isn't expected to even out properly for the first couple of seasons right? And this was an acknowledged part of how the new MM and rankings work?

"OldBaldGuyGaming;c-2324321" wrote:"Ian_Cloudfire05;d-252400" wrote:CG said they re-did the matchmaking in the GAC and I am having a really hard time believing that. I am just over 8.1 million GP and I have 4 GL's at R7. In Round 1 of this current GAC my opponent was just shy of 9 million GP with all 6 GL's at R8. I won because my opponent did not set defense, so the AI set auto-defense and I was able to clear. In Round 2 my opponent has 8.3 million GP, all 6 GL's, with JML at R9 and the rest at R8. This is not improved matchmaking, it's hot garbage. Matchmaking doesn't care about your GL's it cares about your skill rating. What was the skill rating of your opponents vs yours? I bet they were within 10 of each other. You might not LIKE the matchmaking but its working exactly as they told us it would. Everyone's skill rating at the start of the bracket will be the exact same. It's why this system is hot garbage. You will always be matched with folks in your division who put the same effort you do into GAC now that crystals are in play.I wish there was nuance to the skill rating, but everyone goes up or down the same amount after each round, based solely on the outcome (win/loss). Banners don't matter.

"Firefoxx666;c-2324322" wrote:Lol are we REALLY still talking about this? Yall know this isn't expected to even out properly for the first couple of seasons right? And this was an acknowledged part of how the new MM and rankings work?Yes we understand this. The problem is they could have seeded the initial skill rankings 500 smarter ways than they did. Their implementation was lazy.

Grand Arena Championships - Matchmaking

69 Replies

baldeagle71
4 years ago
"Natgmn;c-2325119" wrote:
Please fix matchmaking and the turn meter bugs in gac. You need to take into account number of gls. This gac is just whoever's paid more money wins...

Its called SKILL rating for a reason, your lack of skill in building a good roster is why you are losing. Git Gud.
eyrissa
4 years ago
I have 2 GL's (SLKR and SEE) and everyone in my GA has 5 or 4 GL and they all have JMK. I had zero chance at all and with crystals being moved to GA not even having a chance at all to win a single match seems like a huge error.
Mephisto_style
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
"Asia7738;c-2325612" wrote:
I have 2 GL's (SLKR and SEE) and everyone in my GA has 5 or 4 GL and they all have JMK. I had zero chance at all and with crystals being moved to GA not even having a chance at all to win a single match seems like a huge error.

Did you lose both matches this week?
Shadroth888
4 years ago
It is my understanding that the current matchmaking mechanic will take some time to level out and give us more “even” matches. Short term pain for long term gains.
Returnofvader
4 years ago
Matchmaking needs to fixed, still a bit off on power vs power overall and so does this kind of bs.

Should be a penalty for not setting full defense, sorry to those who disagree but if they are going to have requirements then make them mandatory, i.e. you don’t set a full defense before the match begins means it’s an instant loss for you. I want to play the game as intended and not against lazy players looking for loopholes.
Legend91x
4 years ago
"Marv;c-2325987" wrote:
Matchmaking needs to fixed, still a bit off on power vs power overall and so does this kind of ****.

Should be a penalty for not setting full defense, sorry to those who disagree but if they are going to have requirements then make them mandatory, i.e. you don’t set a full defense before the match begins means it’s an instant loss for you. I want to play the game as intended and not against lazy players looking for loopholes.

So you couldn't get past a phoenix team? That is...sad.
ccmoose
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
Yeah. That one is confusing. They're in Kyber. His opponent basically gave him a win if he cleared. He seems to not understand how the scoring works vs incomplete defenses.

Typical for forums, I guess. Person A was given a huge advantage. Person A doesn't understand how scoring works. Person A rushes to forums to proudly display their ignorance rather than playing to see what happens or doing some light reading.
cannonfodder_iv
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
It will definitely even out over time. There are absolutely some short term "features" from the skill rating system that are undesirable. So far so good, and take that as someone who started 5-0 then subsequently lost 4 straight, including all 3 last week.

The only thing I would like to see is a bit smaller difference in winner vs. loser crystal comp for each round. I understand they're trying to incentivize participation, but the unevenness with the current paucity of skill data can lead to some pretty uneven matches (as expected). Paying the crystal penalty for that is a bit hard to swallow given how much of your crystal income is now tied to wins.

As skill rating becomes more "accurate", I'm good with the higher difference, but easing us in would have been ~~helfpul~~ helpful.

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Calgacus66
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I broadly understand the new matchmaking & I quite like it. I’m currently matched against an opponent with 3 times as many GLs and c 600k GP advantage but I take that as evidence I’ve done relatively ok in the previous round to earn my arse whupping this time. However I do have two genuine questions that I’d like an informed response to:

1. Is there anywhere an authorative description of how the skill rating is generated - ie points per win, points deducted per loss etc?
2. If you are in division 4 of any league during round 4 and you get demoted at the end of that round, does that mean that, since you end in div 5 you get demoted further to the lower league? That’s one reading of the rules but it feels a bit unfair if it’s correct

If anyone knows where the definitive answers to these are posted, please share as I haven’t spotted that

Cheers
maximumbanana18
New Spectator
4 years ago
@Wed_Santa
In answer..
1, nope, not that I’ve seen
2, if your skill level is above the lower threshold of that bracket at the end of a season, you stay in that division, someone demoted from k4 to k5 wouldn’t then be demoted to the next division