Please correct me if i am wrong but as far as i can see they made the Guild activity reset to be at 6 p.m /leader/creator time/ instead of as all we expected 12 am. /together with the daily activity resets/ .50 players around the world are making their plans and strategies for weeks, including the descision when to reset guild activities so everyone can participate in them as this is the most important thing for a guild to work. We were assuming that the reset will be 12 am. as the other daily activities are . So guys grom EA, if this is intentional why were we not informed about the most important thing about the new update ? There were lots of questions from all kind of people about new update and guilds and all those questions you could ignore easily /which you didn`t/ as those players would see the answers anyway when the update comes live and they could do nothing before that to prepare themselves for the update /only store some energy and get some more contributin at their first day only which is not costing them much/. The only thing which was important as it required planning and discussing by 50 people - you missed to inform us about?Now guild is created , how can we fix this ? Everyone leave it and remake new guild. Level up new character so we can meet our needs ? Then we write to support to regain our original name /if that is possible/ ?Really i see no logic into this reset time being different than normal activities reset time and the fact you spared this information.Is it possible our guild creator to ask for support and you change the Guild activity reset time ?Thank you in advance

"Ace5;344731" wrote:They mentioned before that times would be based in guild creators time zone ... Doing it with the arena timer is a hugeadvantage for ftp players so give it a thought before you complain Ex. I get to full energy as arena resets, I spend 50/50 crystal for energy refills. 12 am comes and I get those 50/50 refills again. Same for cantina I think apostilo understands the concept, but is frustrated that the timing of guild refreshing wasn't explained beforehand.Our guild set up a new account with a leader time zone that fit nicely for all of our members. Having that shift from a 12 am (or 1 am for us daylight savings time people) to 6 am puts a lot of our members in a middle of the night refresh. Now we have a guild already created and building up currency that has a really annoying reset timer for half of our members. And this is after a week of deliberating what would be the most efficient refresh time. It's aggravating.

"Ace5;344731" wrote:They mentioned before that times would be based in guild creators time zone ... Doing it with the arena timer is a hugeadvantage for ftp players so give it a thought before you complain Ex. I get to full energy as arena resets, I spend 50/50 crystal for energy refills. 12 am comes and I get those 50/50 refills again. Same for cantina And what exactly prevents you from doing so lets say 2 hours after arena resets or at any other time ?

"norskimo;344775" wrote:"Ace5;344731" wrote:They mentioned before that times would be based in guild creators time zone ... Doing it with the arena timer is a hugeadvantage for ftp players so give it a thought before you complain Ex. I get to full energy as arena resets, I spend 50/50 crystal for energy refills. 12 am comes and I get those 50/50 refills again. Same for cantina I think apostilo understands the concept, but is frustrated that the timing of guild refreshing wasn't explained beforehand.Our guild set up a new account with a leader time zone that fit nicely for all of our members. Having that shift from a 12 am (or 1 am for us daylight savings time people) to 6 am puts a lot of our members in a middle of the night refresh. Now we have a guild already created and building up currency that has a really annoying reset timer for half of our members. And this is after a week of deliberating what would be the most efficient refresh time. It's aggravating.exactly same happened to us .. we are still trying to think of solution ... Hoping , that before we have to go through all the work again we may get an answer or fix to this issue by generally changing the reset time for all players or customer support help us do the change for our guild / and all others of course who sent such request/ ..

"Plasmaj;344921" wrote:They said it was based on leader time zone but never said it was based on his/her daily reset time. We all assumed that, but were clearly wrong. I had some hope this would be the case and am personally very happy about it. It is a very f2p friendly move. They had encouraged players to firm guilds with players in similar time zones and this seems to be one reason why. Why you keep calling this F2P friendly move ? What does it have to do with the planning of a guild when to have it`s Guild activities reseted ? Then all the players out there /F2P or Whales/ can just find a guild with convinient for them time of Guild activities reset and join it.The problem noted here is that guilds were planning according to the most logical assumption that the guild resets will be at same time as the normal activities resets, choosing the exact time for when this will happen , according to the only important factor - Guild activities shouldn`t reset when Half or Whole the guild is SLEEPING in the middle of the night... Encourage all the guildies to be at similar time zone ? So we make this game now Europe vs USA or what ? Don`t think so ... But lets say you are right and 50 Usa close time members who work the same job and have same lunch time decided the best time for them all to get Guild activities reseted early in their morning lets say 10.am ... So they create account at some Europe timezone , assuming that at this account guild activities reset at 12 a.m. and calculating for them it will be 10.a.m. They create the guild and suddenly they appear to get their activities reset 6 hours earlier .. at 4 a.m. when they are all sleeping ... This has nothing to do with F2P friendly , it is about missinforming about an important thing , which made a mess for those who planned and build their strategy ..

Another curve ball thrown unnecessarily. This should have been stated in the very first update notes. I'm happy to try it but having that feeling of being mislead again like the time they said fast characters would get a damage reduction and slow characters would get a damage increase.

Guild activities reset at 6 p.m. for the guild creator? This is a total mess !!!

17 Replies

norskimo3
9 years ago
"Ace5;344731" wrote:
They mentioned before that times would be based in guild creators time zone ...

Doing it with the arena timer is a hugeadvantage for ftp players so give it a thought before you complain

Ex. I get to full energy as arena resets, I spend 50/50 crystal for energy refills. 12 am comes and I get those 50/50 refills again. Same for cantina

I think apostilo understands the concept, but is frustrated that the timing of guild refreshing wasn't explained beforehand.

Our guild set up a new account with a leader time zone that fit nicely for all of our members. Having that shift from a 12 am (or 1 am for us daylight savings time people) to 6 am puts a lot of our members in a middle of the night refresh. Now we have a guild already created and building up currency that has a really annoying reset timer for half of our members. And this is after a week of deliberating what would be the most efficient refresh time. It's aggravating.
Apostilo
9 years ago
"Ace5;344731" wrote:
They mentioned before that times would be based in guild creators time zone ...

Doing it with the arena timer is a hugeadvantage for ftp players so give it a thought before you complain

Ex. I get to full energy as arena resets, I spend 50/50 crystal for energy refills. 12 am comes and I get those 50/50 refills again. Same for cantina

And what exactly prevents you from doing so lets say 2 hours after arena resets or at any other time ?
Apostilo
9 years ago
"norskimo;344775" wrote:
"Ace5;344731" wrote:
They mentioned before that times would be based in guild creators time zone ...

Doing it with the arena timer is a hugeadvantage for ftp players so give it a thought before you complain

Ex. I get to full energy as arena resets, I spend 50/50 crystal for energy refills. 12 am comes and I get those 50/50 refills again. Same for cantina

I think apostilo understands the concept, but is frustrated that the timing of guild refreshing wasn't explained beforehand.

Our guild set up a new account with a leader time zone that fit nicely for all of our members. Having that shift from a 12 am (or 1 am for us daylight savings time people) to 6 am puts a lot of our members in a middle of the night refresh. Now we have a guild already created and building up currency that has a really annoying reset timer for half of our members. And this is after a week of deliberating what would be the most efficient refresh time. It's aggravating.

exactly same happened to us .. we are still trying to think of solution ... Hoping , that before we have to go through all the work again we may get an answer or fix to this issue by generally changing the reset time for all players or customer support help us do the change for our guild / and all others of course who sent such request/ ..
Apostilo
9 years ago
"Plasmaj;344921" wrote:
They said it was based on leader time zone but never said it was based on his/her daily reset time. We all assumed that, but were clearly wrong. I had some hope this would be the case and am personally very happy about it.

It is a very f2p friendly move.

They had encouraged players to firm guilds with players in similar time zones and this seems to be one reason why.

Why you keep calling this F2P friendly move ? What does it have to do with the planning of a guild when to have it`s Guild activities reseted ? Then all the players out there /F2P or Whales/ can just find a guild with convinient for them time of Guild activities reset and join it.

The problem noted here is that guilds were planning according to the most logical assumption that the guild resets will be at same time as the normal activities resets, choosing the exact time for when this will happen , according to the only important factor - Guild activities shouldn`t reset when Half or Whole the guild is SLEEPING in the middle of the night...

Encourage all the guildies to be at similar time zone ? So we make this game now Europe vs USA or what ? Don`t think so ... But lets say you are right and 50 Usa close time members who work the same job and have same lunch time decided the best time for them all to get Guild activities reseted early in their morning lets say 10.am ... So they create account at some Europe timezone , assuming that at this account guild activities reset at 12 a.m. and calculating for them it will be 10.a.m. They create the guild and suddenly they appear to get their activities reset 6 hours earlier .. at 4 a.m. when they are all sleeping ... This has nothing to do with F2P friendly , it is about missinforming about an important thing , which made a mess for those who planned and build their strategy ..
HappyFeetBaller
9 years ago
Another curve ball thrown unnecessarily. This should have been stated in the very first update notes. I'm happy to try it but having that feeling of being mislead again like the time they said fast characters would get a damage reduction and slow characters would get a damage increase.
Apostilo
9 years ago
"atDrammen;344967" wrote:
It is a very F2P friendly move because it will give everyone two "days" to complete tasks. For LS battle activity they can now pay 50/50 crystal refreshes for 240 energy on Monday after 6pm, then another 50/50 crystal refreshes after midnight. They will then have managed to contribute 480 energy at the cost of 200 crystal. The other alternative is resets of guild activities at midnight which would have cost them 50/50/100/100 = 400 crystal, i.e. twice as much.

For hardcore and crystal rich players the costs would now be 800 for 8 refreshes. Also a huge discount so everyone gains.

Omg, why you keep saying this ... If the guild activity reset was at 12 a.m as we assumed , what stops you from doing the same - use 50/50 crystals refreshes at 11.59 p.m without spending the energy, wait one minute for guild activity refresh and then use again 50/50 crystals ? Again you will have the energy from 2 days refreshes used on the new guild activity...
Dranninn
9 years ago
"Apostilo;344999" wrote:
"atDrammen;344967" wrote:
It is a very F2P friendly move because it will give everyone two "days" to complete tasks. For LS battle activity they can now pay 50/50 crystal refreshes for 240 energy on Monday after 6pm, then another 50/50 crystal refreshes after midnight. They will then have managed to contribute 480 energy at the cost of 200 crystal. The other alternative is resets of guild activities at midnight which would have cost them 50/50/100/100 = 400 crystal, i.e. twice as much.

For hardcore and crystal rich players the costs would now be 800 for 8 refreshes. Also a huge discount so everyone gains.

Omg, why you keep saying this ... If the guild activity reset was at 12 a.m as we assumed , what stops you from doing the same - use 50/50 crystals refreshes at 11.59 p.m without spending the energy, wait one minute for guild activity refresh and then use again 50/50 crystals ? Again you will have the energy from 2 days refreshes used on the new guild activity...

See if I can break this down for you.

Server resets at 12 am along with refresh cost. So if you refresh 2 50 crystal refreshes at midnight, you would not be able to do 2 more 50 crystal refreshes for that day as the freshes would reset along with guild activities.

As far as your doing 2 refreshes at11:59. Then 2 more afterwards to have energy for it. Now you could do 2 refreshes at 11:59 getting ready for next day activies, 2 freshes after, and 2 more at 12 am. For 6 refreshes for 300 crystals.

While I understand you expected it t be at 12 am and now upset as it was not designed as most here thought, but understand this is way more f2p friendly than at same time as server reset.

Everyone complaining how tier 7 was almost impossible ( to include me I will admit ), now knows how wrong we all were. F2p players can in fact compete with the p2p players if they play smart with when they use energy and refreshes for it.
stumpoman
9 years ago
Am I correct in thinking that I should not refresh my normal energy until the Guild daily resets? Mine is at 30 minutes after the arena payout of the leader.

If the schedule in the announcement is correct the next one should be LS battles.
Dranninn
9 years ago
For f2p players. This is how you could easily help your guild. However in doing this you will slow down your progress. Also note this is intended for people that get atleast 100 crystals from arena.

The day before these huge energy sink events happen all you need to do is do your dailies then stop ( do this before first free energy ). Quest no more except for cantina and GW. Wait until energy is full then refresh twice, while collecting your daily energy. At server reset do the same with 2 refreshes and wait, and grab your free energy. Once guild activity changes then use all your energy. If done right you will have 800-900 energy to use according to your lvl. At server reset refresh 2 more times. You should be able to use around 1400-1600 energy on these days.
heiligenborre
9 years ago
Yes it looks like the definition of a "guild day" is (relative to the Leader's TZ):
"From 30 min after Arena payout of that day until 24h later (that's the next day actually)".

The 30 min trick is great for everyone because it means everybody can club the activities of 2 days into one "guild day".