"KausDebonair;c-2159858" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159705" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2159694" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159684" wrote:"Lor_San_Teka;c-2159463" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158301" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158300" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158295" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158292" wrote:
PVE. Places we can use Han. And remember, this affects everyone at every level. So even though some of these events are very easy to beat for end game users. Not all users are end game.
Assault battles
Galactic challenges - all of them
Smugglers run
Omega battles
Every heroic and mythic level that doesn’t require a specific team
Daily challenges.
Galactic war
Light and dark side battles
Cantina battles
Mod battles and challenges
Raids.
That’s several places. How many of those have enemy toons that get secret bonus turns?
So of this list the only ones effected by this that I can see, meaning they have bonus turns at the start of a wave, and you can use Han:
Possibly one assault battle
GCs (for all but 1, it's a choice)
I don't believe anything else on that list is affected.
And obviously smugglers run.
What about lstb or Hoth?
Yeah, obviously. Sorry I missed that one.
Nope those shouldn't have any issues
Also rebels kind of stink in LSGeo
Rey + Bros + Chewie + Han is a 4/4 easy mode due to the Poe zeta interaction with Chewie AoE. And being able to stun any sniper droid at the start, or wipe out a B2 first turn is a huge part of that.
LS Geo TB, Han should shoot first, so no issue there.
His kit indicates he should everywhere though
technically speaking, no it doesn't. the title of the ability may lead you to believe that, but his kit is in the description, not the title.
feel free to report instances where he doesn't as a bug, and i'm sure they will review it. with this new TM system in place, I'm guessing they can make it happen, but I dont think they will go through and do it without some insistence by the community. currently there are some places where he may not, and even in those I dont believe it will consistently be one way or the other, its following the rules of the new system.
Kyno, I don’t care what Han’s kit says, that’s not a defense in this case. The point is that Crumb FLAT OUT SAID Han should ALWAYS shoot first, and Han is no longer guaranteed to shoot first “as he should.”
If the devs say “as he should,” then Han sure as heck should shoot first.
"ShaggyB;c-2159873" wrote:"KausDebonair;c-2159858" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159705" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2159694" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159684" wrote:"Lor_San_Teka;c-2159463" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158301" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158300" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158295" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158292" wrote:
PVE. Places we can use Han. And remember, this affects everyone at every level. So even though some of these events are very easy to beat for end game users. Not all users are end game.
Assault battles
Galactic challenges - all of them
Smugglers run
Omega battles
Every heroic and mythic level that doesn’t require a specific team
Daily challenges.
Galactic war
Light and dark side battles
Cantina battles
Mod battles and challenges
Raids.
That’s several places. How many of those have enemy toons that get secret bonus turns?
So of this list the only ones effected by this that I can see, meaning they have bonus turns at the start of a wave, and you can use Han:
Possibly one assault battle
GCs (for all but 1, it's a choice)
I don't believe anything else on that list is affected.
And obviously smugglers run.
What about lstb or Hoth?
Yeah, obviously. Sorry I missed that one.
Nope those shouldn't have any issues
Also rebels kind of stink in LSGeo
Rey + Bros + Chewie + Han is a 4/4 easy mode due to the Poe zeta interaction with Chewie AoE. And being able to stun any sniper droid at the start, or wipe out a B2 first turn is a huge part of that.
LS Geo TB, Han should shoot first, so no issue there.
His kit indicates he should everywhere though
technically speaking, no it doesn't. the title of the ability may lead you to believe that, but his kit is in the description, not the title.
feel free to report instances where he doesn't as a bug, and i'm sure they will review it. with this new TM system in place, I'm guessing they can make it happen, but I dont think they will go through and do it without some insistence by the community. currently there are some places where he may not, and even in those I dont believe it will consistently be one way or the other, its following the rules of the new system.
Kyno, I don’t care what Han’s kit says, that’s not a defense in this case. The point is that Crumb FLAT OUT SAID Han should ALWAYS shoot first, and Han is no longer guaranteed to shoot first “as he should.”
If the devs say “as he should,” then Han sure as heck should shoot first.
Its also how its worked for a while now
"KausDebonair;c-2159876" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2159873" wrote:"KausDebonair;c-2159858" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159705" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2159694" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159684" wrote:"Lor_San_Teka;c-2159463" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158301" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158300" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158295" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158292" wrote:
PVE. Places we can use Han. And remember, this affects everyone at every level. So even though some of these events are very easy to beat for end game users. Not all users are end game.
Assault battles
Galactic challenges - all of them
Smugglers run
Omega battles
Every heroic and mythic level that doesn’t require a specific team
Daily challenges.
Galactic war
Light and dark side battles
Cantina battles
Mod battles and challenges
Raids.
That’s several places. How many of those have enemy toons that get secret bonus turns?
So of this list the only ones effected by this that I can see, meaning they have bonus turns at the start of a wave, and you can use Han:
Possibly one assault battle
GCs (for all but 1, it's a choice)
I don't believe anything else on that list is affected.
And obviously smugglers run.
What about lstb or Hoth?
Yeah, obviously. Sorry I missed that one.
Nope those shouldn't have any issues
Also rebels kind of stink in LSGeo
Rey + Bros + Chewie + Han is a 4/4 easy mode due to the Poe zeta interaction with Chewie AoE. And being able to stun any sniper droid at the start, or wipe out a B2 first turn is a huge part of that.
LS Geo TB, Han should shoot first, so no issue there.
His kit indicates he should everywhere though
technically speaking, no it doesn't. the title of the ability may lead you to believe that, but his kit is in the description, not the title.
feel free to report instances where he doesn't as a bug, and i'm sure they will review it. with this new TM system in place, I'm guessing they can make it happen, but I dont think they will go through and do it without some insistence by the community. currently there are some places where he may not, and even in those I dont believe it will consistently be one way or the other, its following the rules of the new system.
Kyno, I don’t care what Han’s kit says, that’s not a defense in this case. The point is that Crumb FLAT OUT SAID Han should ALWAYS shoot first, and Han is no longer guaranteed to shoot first “as he should.”
If the devs say “as he should,” then Han sure as heck should shoot first.
Its also how its worked for a while now
Ok. So, either the devs are lying about how Han “should always shoot first as he should,” or the TM rework has ruined Han’s mechanic. It is a detrimental change, the first shot stun can make or break a battle. It’s incredibly tiresome reading about how “nah everything is as is should be” when the developers are quoted in a dev post saying it should work the other way.
"KausDebonair;c-2159876" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2159873" wrote:"KausDebonair;c-2159858" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159705" wrote:"ShaggyB;c-2159694" wrote:"Kyno;c-2159684" wrote:"Lor_San_Teka;c-2159463" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158301" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158300" wrote:"Kyno;c-2158295" wrote:"Ltswb1;c-2158292" wrote:
PVE. Places we can use Han. And remember, this affects everyone at every level. So even though some of these events are very easy to beat for end game users. Not all users are end game.
Assault battles
Galactic challenges - all of them
Smugglers run
Omega battles
Every heroic and mythic level that doesn’t require a specific team
Daily challenges.
Galactic war
Light and dark side battles
Cantina battles
Mod battles and challenges
Raids.
That’s several places. How many of those have enemy toons that get secret bonus turns?
So of this list the only ones effected by this that I can see, meaning they have bonus turns at the start of a wave, and you can use Han:
Possibly one assault battle
GCs (for all but 1, it's a choice)
I don't believe anything else on that list is affected.
And obviously smugglers run.
What about lstb or Hoth?
Yeah, obviously. Sorry I missed that one.
Nope those shouldn't have any issues
Also rebels kind of stink in LSGeo
Rey + Bros + Chewie + Han is a 4/4 easy mode due to the Poe zeta interaction with Chewie AoE. And being able to stun any sniper droid at the start, or wipe out a B2 first turn is a huge part of that.
LS Geo TB, Han should shoot first, so no issue there.
His kit indicates he should everywhere though
technically speaking, no it doesn't. the title of the ability may lead you to believe that, but his kit is in the description, not the title.
feel free to report instances where he doesn't as a bug, and i'm sure they will review it. with this new TM system in place, I'm guessing they can make it happen, but I dont think they will go through and do it without some insistence by the community. currently there are some places where he may not, and even in those I dont believe it will consistently be one way or the other, its following the rules of the new system.
Kyno, I don’t care what Han’s kit says, that’s not a defense in this case. The point is that Crumb FLAT OUT SAID Han should ALWAYS shoot first, and Han is no longer guaranteed to shoot first “as he should.”
If the devs say “as he should,” then Han sure as heck should shoot first.
Its also how its worked for a while now
Ok. So, either the devs are lying about how Han “should always shoot first as he should,” or the TM rework has ruined Han’s mechanic. It is a detrimental change, the first shot stun can make or break a battle. It’s incredibly tiresome reading about how “nah everything is as is should be” when the developers are quoted in a dev post saying it should work the other way.
