Han shoots first bug

Yes, I've this happen. It's due to the new TM overflow mechanics.

I have a mixed time beating it, but g10 Han, g8 Chewie, g9 nest and g8 vets so not the best squad. Means it takes like 4-5 tries

"Kyno;c-2169708" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169701" wrote:
Yeah it is beyond stupid. Every time krennic goes first it drives me insane. They need to change the wording of Han's ability to be: "Han sometimes goes first".

ability titles have nothing to do with the description. which is still accurate.

Except that they specifically mentioned this situation in the post releasing the new TM system, and said that Han should always go first. This is a bug, pure and simple. Sure it’s not a huge one in the grand scheme of things, but it is a bug. Otherwise, in the old system, it would have been a 50/50 coin flip and Krennik still would have gone sometimes. But he never did.

"yankeeh8er;c-2169721" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169716" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169712" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169708" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169701" wrote:
Yeah it is beyond stupid. Every time krennic goes first it drives me insane. They need to change the wording of Han's ability to be: "Han sometimes goes first".

ability titles have nothing to do with the description. which is still accurate.

That is all well and true but come on you can admit that it is at least a bit silly to have an ability called "shoots first" that doesn't always shoot first.

hero with no fear - can be afflicted with Fear

Undying sacrifice - the entire description is about what happens when they die

Death sentence - doesn't kill the target

......

There are more. Its not silly at all, since the title has nothing to do with the description.

Its a game. They are aware of this situation, and have said if it looks like it has an actual effect on the situation (I would assume they mean the success rate) they will look into changing it. I think many of us can agree that we would like to see there efforts put into many other places before even saying this is a priority.

The hero with no fear one irks me like crazy to.

Edit: I will agree that this is a minor issue though. I would much rather they focus on better communication then stuff like this.

The people in charge of working on game mechanics and the people drafting forum posts don't need to (and probably shouldn't) be the same people.

"Ltswb1;c-2169725" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169708" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169701" wrote:
Yeah it is beyond stupid. Every time krennic goes first it drives me insane. They need to change the wording of Han's ability to be: "Han sometimes goes first".

ability titles have nothing to do with the description. which is still accurate.

Except that they specifically mentioned this situation in the post releasing the new TM system, and said that Han should always go first. This is a bug, pure and simple. Sure it’s not a huge one in the grand scheme of things, but it is a bug. Otherwise, in the old system, it would have been a 50/50 coin flip and Krennik still would have gone sometimes. But he never did.

If you feel this is a bug than you should be reporting it as such on <>.


If you are referring to the line below, then you should realize that this is in specific reference to Han and Wat.


I agree that he should shoot first, according to the mechanics listed, but I also recognize that issues of this nature should be treated as a low priority, as they have a very minor effect across the board.

"Jakdnels;c-2169727" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169721" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169716" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169712" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169708" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169701" wrote:
Yeah it is beyond stupid. Every time krennic goes first it drives me insane. They need to change the wording of Han's ability to be: "Han sometimes goes first".

ability titles have nothing to do with the description. which is still accurate.

That is all well and true but come on you can admit that it is at least a bit silly to have an ability called "shoots first" that doesn't always shoot first.

hero with no fear - can be afflicted with Fear

Undying sacrifice - the entire description is about what happens when they die

Death sentence - doesn't kill the target

......

There are more. Its not silly at all, since the title has nothing to do with the description.

Its a game. They are aware of this situation, and have said if it looks like it has an actual effect on the situation (I would assume they mean the success rate) they will look into changing it. I think many of us can agree that we would like to see there efforts put into many other places before even saying this is a priority.

The hero with no fear one irks me like crazy to.

Edit: I will agree that this is a minor issue though. I would much rather they focus on better communication then stuff like this.

The people in charge of working on game mechanics and the people drafting forum posts don't need to (and probably shouldn't) be the same people.

The person who does the talking, still needs to have meetings and discuss things with those people, since he is not the one making it happen and needs to have some level of understanding to put together said communication.

"Gifafi;c-2169770" wrote:
for like the 10th time already, han shoots first except in very few, very specific instances against computer teams in pve. it's irrelevant, ignore it. If you need han to shoot first in the last phase of smuggler's run my advice is to git gud and stop worrying about minutia that don't matter

But principles!

"yankeeh8er;c-2169789" wrote:

"TVF;c-2169771" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2169770" wrote:
for like the 10th time already, han shoots first except in very few, very specific instances against computer teams in pve. it's irrelevant, ignore it. If you need han to shoot first in the last phase of smuggler's run my advice is to git gud and stop worrying about minutia that don't matter

But principles!

You really don't find it odd that they won't just add a bit of code so that Hans bonus turn at the start gets priority. That does not seem like some super complicated thing to fix.

its funny but everything you just said it wrong.

a little background for you, how they take their turn first is actually based on the NPC side, not Hans side.

and as they have discussed to some extent, the older events are more hand crafted and each one is unique, so yes its actually quite involved to go in and change that aspect of the event.

To add to that, I don't care if it's odd or not. It affects me not in the slightest.

"Ltswb1;c-2169794" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169735" wrote:

"Ltswb1;c-2169725" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2169708" wrote:

"yankeeh8er;c-2169701" wrote:
Yeah it is beyond stupid. Every time krennic goes first it drives me insane. They need to change the wording of Han's ability to be: "Han sometimes goes first".

ability titles have nothing to do with the description. which is still accurate.

Except that they specifically mentioned this situation in the post releasing the new TM system, and said that Han should always go first. This is a bug, pure and simple. Sure it’s not a huge one in the grand scheme of things, but it is a bug. Otherwise, in the old system, it would have been a 50/50 coin flip and Krennik still would have gone sometimes. But he never did.

If you feel this is a bug than you should be reporting it as such on <>.


If you are referring to the line below, then you should realize that this is in specific reference to Han and Wat.


I agree that he should shoot first, according to the mechanics listed, but I also recognize that issues of this nature should be treated as a low priority, as they have a very minor effect across the board.

I believe it’s been posted as a bug already. I will look and see. You are ignoring the last part of my statement. Which I’ve seen you do several times from other posters.

If it’s not a bug, then how come Krennik never went first in the old system? If they both got bonus turns, and there was no mechanic saying that Han should ALWAYS go first, then Krennik would have won 50/50 coin flips at least half the time. He NEVER did before. Which means there WAS a mechanic saying that Han always goes first. Which is now missing. For some reason you keep ignoring this reasoning and claiming that it’s WAI

the interaction of Krennik is how they way the system is coded in that event and how Han is coded and how they interact in the new system.

he never did this before because there was no overshoot system in place. nothing is missing, it was the thing that is added doing exactly what it is now told to do. NO there was not a mechanic to tell Han to go first, there was just no mechanic to look at the TM situation of Krennik and tell him to go before Han.