How can you reconcile Anakin with Carrie's statements?

"MasterSeedy;c-1840019" wrote:

I asked how her statement - which, no, we cannot ignore, or treat as only one person's opinion when she is literally in charge - can be reconciled with

She's not literally in charge. She's a PR person who communicates what she's told, but is worth her salary because she has the writing and speaking skills to express what she needs to express clearly, effectively, and hopefully with a bit of art. Other people are in charge of EA/CG, not Carrie. This is as bad as saying that Sarah Sanders is in charge of the White House in the USA. It's just not remotely true.

As for the question, I made clear that I agree there's reason to critique the rework. But Carrie isn't responsible for the rework, and I'd bet you 10,000 purple crystals that they didn't show her the math on the rework before she crafter her statements.

The statements cannot be reconciled with JKA's effectiveness vs. DR/Malak, but that's not on Carrie. It's on whoever is high enough up the chain of command that both the Devs AND Carrie answer to that person. How high up the organizational chart do you have to go to reach someone that can give orders to both programmers and Carrie? I don't know, but it sure as heck isn't Carrie herself.

Question the rework if you like. Incorporate Carrie's statements into your critiques to show that the JKA rework isn't consistent with what players have been told, if you believe that to be true. But Carrie doesn't control programmers or game balance and putting responsibility the JKA situation on Carrie in any way is wrong. And, if you didn't notice, I didn't call you out by name because I'm not interested in naming and shaming. Y'all are adults, and everyone in this thread with the capacity for self reflection can decide for themselves whether they have participated in blaming Carrie for a situation which is not her fault.

Honestly, Carrie should be your friend in all this. People could easily take an approach like this:

Recently Carrie told us X about Malak, whaling, & game balance.
We have noticed Y about JKA vs. DR-led Malak teams.
We agree with Carrie that X should be true, but we don't believe that Y is compatible with X.
Could someone with power over the devs please take Carrie's statements seriously? She needs to be told if it's not EA/CG's intent to create a game where X is true. And if she was right and you're trying to create a game where X is true, then please change Y which would otherwise be incompatible with that.

Seriously. Carrie is your ally in this because she's the insider who is spelling out a convincing argument for exactly what you want.

I, personally, have no problem with a JKA glass cannon. Different toons have different roles. JKA goes BOOM. It's what he was designed to do. He's completely useless on defense but stellar on offense, as a glass cannon should be. Heck, in most ways he's a less problematic glass cannon than Princess Leia who preserves herself despite her low health with stealth and a strong regen mechanic in her zeta. JKA just happens to fit well with a currently powerful meta-team AND performs the role of glass cannon.

But if you hate on JKA and want him nerfed, there's no reason to criticize Carrie unless you have evidence that she was handed information that contradicted what she said and then lied about it. Since we don't have that, Carrie is entirely irrelevant to the conversation and should not even have been brought up unless you want to uphold her as championing your side. (I don't think her statements actually do champion your side, but whatevs: you do you.)

So next time maybe think about who is in charge, and maybe when someone makes a statement that you can use in your argument treat that person with some generosity and respect, rather than making them literally responsible for the things you don't like even though the things you don't like come from the devs and not the PR shop.

While i wholeheartedly agree with you Carrie isn't to blame in this this. She's as you mentioned PR. The saying don't kill the messenger exists because messengers were often killed when giving Kings and Queens bad news! With that said i do not agree that Carrie is our advocate in this. Fact is she is PR for CG not the player base. The closest advocates we had were game changers and that system was gutted when jkr details leaked after an nda violation.

Gc continue to have contact with cg however i believe it's been drastically changed for the worst.

CG was far better when GC had access to pre release content.

"MasterSeedy;c-1840033" wrote:
@icanectc

With that said i do not agree that Carrie is our advocate in this. Fact is she is PR for CG not the player base.

If I communicated that, then I've written badly. I agree with your statement here: her job is to do PR for CG, not for me or any other player.

What I was trying to communicate was that in this case, her words might be advantageous to a player making the argument that JKA should be nerfed. (Full disclosure, that player is not me. I'm fine with JKA as a glass cannon.) She's only an accidental ally to those trying to make that argument, but her statement does seem to lend at least a little weight to that position, so if that's what you're trying to argue, why not laud her instead of attacking her?

I think we're probably in exact agreement if I can just communicate clearly. (Obviously I myself couldn't be a PR professional.)

For sure Carrie is probably in the worst possible job for this she gets destroyed on both sides it's definitely in a tough job and tough spot. And i don't generally disagree with what Carrie says or has said she is the messenger. If cg says they want to communicate better with us the players she posts that. When that doesn't happen ( per the community) she gets the brunt of those attacks.

So in general i support Carrie and all the developers i truly believe they care about the health of the game and the community. But clearly something is up. I've been playing this game a long time and this is new territory for cg.

First don't shoot the messenger @CG_Carrie told the truth BUT its nothing that an intelligent person could not discern for themselves. I had angst but now I am over it after doing some thinking.

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I would love be a fly on the wall and see quarter Q1 2019 and Q2 2019 quarter numbers. Decline in revenue is all that matters to these companies. After this Triad of messes ( most impact is DR which would have slaughtered revenue as projections, sending company bean counters into a frenzy and then the short sighted DM designed to recover the revenue shortfall for Q1 without the verification testing that should have happened SA/Emp were collateral damage)

How does that impact me ? I have left a top 10 guild and am going FTP ( I still like this game but don't love it any more. The microcosm of my guild players are leaving on a regular basis last month or so). whales matter they pay for this game so that FTP can play. They come and "WILL" go. The key is retaining the interest. If revenue was to keep dropping at 20% this year heads will roll. If a debacle impacts revenue significantly there will be redress.

If not they won't care. The saying goes is that it takes 85% more in cost to get a new customer than to retain an old one. Lets hope that they don't lose 85% of revenue in the coming year ahead. At least we have a choice.

Ex-whaling after my rant.

First of all CG Carrie is exactly the type of person who would whine on twitter about other people harassing her online.
It's pretty clear that a well paying job is not enough for her, she wants to or considers herself to be somewhat famous. She wants to be admired.
Sadly being a shill for multi-billion corporation, which doesn't pay a single $ of income tax won't get you pride nor accomplishment.

I sat out the Malak event simply because I couldn't support the manner in which the company dropped the event. (And given how the toon doesn't even seem particularly goood I'm glad I did) But the way that they've since alienated both f2p and my fellow whales has been breathtakingly mind-blowing.

Then rather than come together as a community of players to support the legitimate complaints of each other it's either mock one another or make over the top complaints about CG reps. I understand that people are upset, and they should be, but calm evaluation of the problem will have a better effect on how CG responds than what's currently going on.

"Gannon;c-1840010" wrote:
An outdated tin foil hat post and a bunch of videos and threads raving that he kills Darth revan? From everything I've seen, tested, read, and researched, his stats didn't change, his damage didn't change, and he didn't even get a full rework. Only difference as far as damage is a 25% boost to his fury unique.
This would've likely worked before the rework, especially with the armor/defense reducing effects of Darth revan, if someone had thought to test it.
I see no problem here.

You are a hot mess. If you’re gonna troll you aren’t doing a bang-up job.

https://swgoh.gg/characters/jedi-knight-anakin/ability/deft-bladework



https://swgoh.gg/characters/jedi-knight-anakin/ability/overpowering-assault



https://swgoh.gg/characters/jedi-knight-anakin/stats/

There’s the stats now. They are well amplified from what they were before, and this is on top of the other stats they gave in just the ability descriptions. Ta ta.

"Wraith_Squadron;c-1840009" wrote:
I will reserve judgment on this until we see how the reworks shake up the meta. That said, CG and @CG_Carrie responses the last few days haven’t helped the situation. I don’t think it has risen to the degree of willful misrepresentation but I will say the responses or lack thereof in some cases feels tone deaf.

I tend to agree with MobileGamer that a lot of the hate brewing right now could be addressed if the Devs simply put themselves out there to answer questions from the players. Do it on twitch once or twice a month and I think they will find the communication will help soothe the current discord.

Yeah, how good is MobileGamer right now? loving his recent content.

@Gannon I know MobileGamer mentioned that they did change the coding, you now can't prevent Anakin taking his extra turn, so he always takes it apparently through even shock ect. So when DR would normally prevent turns, he still gives Anakin one, in which he uses his 100% offence buff, offence up, and JKR's offence lead gains to basically one shot the team, which all goes hand in hand with the multiplier buffs he received.

A few points.

1) "Exclusivity" doesn't mean "holds on defense in arena". In 3+ years of this game's existence, it has never meant that. That's because it would contradict one of the major driving factors to battle in arena - the need to be active. That's why the AI is bad. That's why refreshes cost crystals. That's why there is a timer. That's why you can't set "defensive" teams that are different from the one you attack with - and why there's a cooldown timer after battle.

2) The "advantage" is on offense. DR + Malak can still easily crush on offense. And the fact that you have another strong Sith Empire character - who doesn't even have to be g12 or 7* to be viable even in top end arena. A character who frees up one of your other Sith to strengthen other teams in events like GA and TW.

3) In this game money has never been an automatic "I win" button - especially not on defense. So either many of those expressing frustration are "new" whales or they are not being completely honest. This situation isn't new or unprecedented.

@CG_Carrie @CG_SBCrumb

I think a lot of people would like to know if this JKA thing is going to stand? You nerfed EP lead's interaction with DM, invalidated players' investments into Sith Assassin, made owning DR without DM almost useless, and now DR + DM teams are getting dunked on harder than they were before. This is truly spectacular

It feels like they have to address this so I believe they might make an announcement later today which is going to disappoint many and then disappear for the weekend