How is this fair matchmaking?

"IDinDooNuffin;c-1839157" wrote:
I can paraphrase the entire thread without reading anything but the title.

Everyone who is not a whale and been playing since before TW, agrees with it not being fair.

Everyone who joined the game or working an Alt account that joined after TW disagrees.

End of thread.

Incorrect. I'm not a whale. Been playing since very shortly after launch.

It seems pretty fair. Players who focused resources on developing strong top-end rosters have an advantage to people who have a relatively "flat" roster of weaker characters.

If we start adding too many new criteria to matchmaking, the populations in each "bucket" will go down, and some players will end up fighting the same groups over and over.

While they say it's a special matchmaking formula, it seems 100% purely based on GP. Players know this now, so should develop their roster. Unless a player literally has the absolute worst, fluffiest roster at their GP level in the whole world, sometimes matching will put them up against a worst roster.

"Nihion;c-1839184" wrote:

I can live with just about anything, thanks for asking. I wouldn’t call that resource management, I would call it choosing which character you want. So personal choice management.

The personal choice of where to invest your resources in the game. This game is a resource management game, period. Players that spend money can buy extra resources that f2p do not, so they don't have to do as much management (depending on how much they are willing to spend anyway).

"Whatelse73;c-1839200" wrote:

"jkray622;c-1839188" wrote:

"Nihion;c-1839184" wrote:

I can live with just about anything, thanks for asking. I wouldn’t call that resource management, I would call it choosing which character you want. So personal choice management.

The personal choice of where to invest your resources in the game. This game is a resource management game, period. Players that spend money can buy extra resources that f2p do not, so they don't have to do as much management (depending on how much they are willing to spend anyway).

And some people guessed correctly where to put their resources. Some ignored other facets that could be beneficial in other parts of the game, their guild, etc., to focus on one aspect.

Now Galactic Republic is going to make a resurgence and Ahnald has a video up of Anakin destroying DRevan teams, even WITH Malak. Who guessed that one would happen?

No doubt. I was responding to the player who argued it's not a resource management decision, it's a personal choice decision. Thus, the italicized part of my comment.

With limited resources, one has to pick and choose. I choose only to invest my resources where I see impact. Increased raid scores, easier arena/fleet battles + less falling overnight. Other than that, I tend to hoard so I can respond when EA drops an unexpected Legendary.

I had over 800 Carbanti and 7 zetas saved up when Darth Revan was announced. I spent most of my carbanti, stun guns, and stun cuffs gearing up for Darth Revan. I slowly started to increase my hoard, then had to spend it all plus buy some gear with crystals in order to prepare for and gear Malak.

Now that I have a maxed Darth Revan and Malak, I am not spending gear on anyone unless there's an immediate payoff. I'm trying to rebuild my resources stash so I can respond flexibly to any other surprises EA shoves in front of us. Once I get up to what I consider a "safe" level of gear and crystals, I will resume slowly increasing one squad at a time to improve my TW/GA effectiveness.

That's how I manage my resources.

I think people are getting off topic. The point is that matchups should not be based solely on GP. It wouldn't be hard to make an algorithm to use. EA is just lazy.

"Jarvind;c-1838993" wrote:
Nobody ever said GA matchups would be fair. Just that you would have the same GP.

I have to admit, I am curious why you leveled up dozens of characters you haven't used. Seems like a massive waste of credits.

TB. TB came before TW and GA. Leveling characters was good to help your guild. And credits are plentiful, so there is no lost opportunity cost. Until they made GA that is......

Every single post complaining about GA matchmaking being unfair comes down to this: “I didn’t win so it is unfair!”

You will complain about the other guy having more zetas than you if CG adds number of g12s into matchmaking, once CG adds zetas into the formula, you will complain he has a certain p2w meta toon and you don’t so it’s unfair. The complain will never end. Get over it.

If you feel like you’ve been fighting hopeless battles every time, just sign up and forget it. Take your free 8th place rewards for pushing just 1 button. That’s not a bad rewards to efforts ratio imo.

"jkray622;c-1839234" wrote:

"Majejames;c-1839229" wrote:
I think people are getting off topic. The point is that matchups should not be based solely on GP. It wouldn't be hard to make an algorithm to use. EA is just lazy.

So players who managed their resources wisely shouldn't be an advantage over players who poorly manage their resources?

A player who makes poor decisions should be given a handicap so they only play against other poor decision-makers?

In the world of "participation trophies" for all players, I suppose that makes sense.

Edit: If I play Settlers of Catan, and I build only one extra settlement, and all my settlements are on really bad dice numbers, and all get the same resources, should the table take pity on me and only need me to get 5 Victory Points instead of the 10 the other players are targeting? (Hint - no, I'm just going to lose).

It's not about who managed resources to gain GP a certain way. It's the fact that you can put to fluff players against each other with a simple algorithm.

"Vorgen;c-1839263" wrote:
Every single post complaining about GA matchmaking being unfair comes down to this: “I didn’t win so it is unfair!”

You will complain about the other guy having more zetas than you if CG adds number of g12s into matchmaking, once CG adds zetas into the formula, you will complain he has a certain p2w meta toon and you don’t so it’s unfair. The complain will never end. Get over it.

If you feel like you’ve been fighting hopeless battles every time, just sign up and forget it. Take your free 8th place rewards for pushing just 1 button. That’s not a bad rewards to efforts ratio imo.

The problem is the amount of disparity. And this is coming from someone who always takes first or second. I shouldn't be competing against people who don't stand a chance because of how they geared toons. It's like pitting a little league baseball team against a professional team just because the little league has more players total.

"taquillasun;c-1839164" wrote:

"Nihion;c-1839061" wrote:

"taquillasun;c-1839025" wrote:
You know those people crying about Malak? I'm not one because I chose to put my resources into gearing up KOTOR. I hear all these people crying about how unfair it was.... this post echos those sentiments. It's not unfair. It's where you chose to spend resources. That's why I scoff at those who cried about Malak. No, you chose to gear other characters up. That's all. 2 day notice? LOL I had em all G12 months before that happened. LOLOLOL

Lol to think that you’re scoffing because you had better “resource management.” You’re just gloating that you got Malak and he was worth the investment.

No, it's to point out the argument about resource management. You can't have it both ways. So I
'm not letting them off the hook. I actually knew Malak was coming into the game. And I knew KOTOR would be needed. And I liked KOTOR characters. And yes, I really did have them all G12 months before Malak, and months before Darth Revan. If you couldn't read between the lines to see all these characters coming into the game, then --well, that's too bad.
Do you know why I don't have C3P0? Because I couldn't spend any gear on ewoks while I geared my KOTOR. We all make choices...

https://swgoh.gg/p/671797632/

See, these are my choices. I have an inflated GP too... I did exactly what the OP is talking about. I have only 35 G12. I have all my toons 7 star and g7-9 I spent all over the place. ANd I cna live with that. Can you?

False. You didn't know that. You may have believed or suspected but nothing was definitive. If Malak didn't come around than the case would be different.

"jkray622;c-1839188" wrote:

"Nihion;c-1839184" wrote:

I can live with just about anything, thanks for asking. I wouldn’t call that resource management, I would call it choosing which character you want. So personal choice management.

The personal choice of where to invest your resources in the game. This game is a resource management game, period. Players that spend money can buy extra resources that f2p do not, so they don't have to do as much management (depending on how much they are willing to spend anyway).

You're misconstruing what he is saying there. The Post he was replying to was a person that said they were only going after one character, devoting all his resources to a character not even in the game. That's a personal choice

I can’t say it’s unfair, but I’m with you pal. I just upgraded a lot of things at once (bad idea) and I never win. I usually sign up, do everyone else a favor and grab the free 8th place rewards. Better than nothing!

The unfortunate aspect part is that you can’t change your diverse roster with semi-characters; once you’re there, you’re stuck.