How long to craft g12+ pieces

"IC3M4N;d-173525" wrote:
The meta will change 2 times by the time I get 1 piece crafted.

Then put it on someone like thrawn who has been in 4 different meta teams so far or invest it to boost your hsr rank.

"kalidor;c-1586429" wrote:
That's also assuming they drop with equal probability. My 700+ furnaces and <100 nub tech, droid callers, and scanners seems to indicate otherwise. Not only do you need to be running Herioc, but you need to be in the top 20% every time, and get enough of the componets to build a full gear - and then congrats, you've got 1 g12+ slot on one of your 5 arena heroes.
That's why I was a lot more worried about these slots when they announced back in March/Apr that they'd be heroic only. As soon as these details came out I immediately relaxed, as raid RNG is brutal (we don't run hSith yet).

I think you are missing the point. Ironically, if the drop is "skewed" that's actually worse, as that would mean it's easier to complete a piece. Every piece gives +6 speed (along with other benefits).

Also, the people finishing in the top 10 of most HSith raids are the players who already do so consistently. Add a g12+ piece or two, and it will be even easier for them to stay in the top 20% of the guild (they are compiling pieces at a higher rate than the other 80%).

This issue will only worsen over time as more guilds become HSith capable.

I'm not sure what about the system puts you at ease. I am just the opposite. Once the details and the extremely top heavy structure were released, I found it to be quite disconcerting. And the people that aren't completing HSith yet and are thinking "well, not my problem" - it will be soon enough.

"Nitrogen;c-1586456" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1586444" wrote:
... And the people that aren't completing HSith yet and are thinking "well, not my problem" - it will be soon enough.

Actually, we're thinking; There goes any chance of ever finishing in the top 10 of Arena again.

And that could be why I don't care - I gave up on Arena over a year ago. I don't have the time before payout to compete, and I'm in a Nov'15 server. I'm happy with being in the top 50. Once I decided to settle for that as F2P, the game became much less stressful. Now all these ups & downs with meta shifts and updates are much less drama for me, and I'm happier for it.

"kalidor;c-1586478" wrote:

"Nitrogen;c-1586456" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1586444" wrote:
... And the people that aren't completing HSith yet and are thinking "well, not my problem" - it will be soon enough.

Actually, we're thinking; There goes any chance of ever finishing in the top 10 of Arena again.

And that could be why I don't care - I gave up on Arena over a year ago. I don't have the time before payout to compete, and I'm in a Nov'15 server. I'm happy with being in the top 50. Once I decided to settle for that as F2P, the game became much less stressful. Now all these ups & downs with meta shifts and updates are much less drama for me, and I'm happier for it.

That is fair. I'm in a Oct '17 shard and have continually been in the top 50, most of the time top 10, but I am not in a HSith guild and am falling farther and farther behind. I find it almost impossible to finish top 10 now, and I don't see this improving.

Many people will say - "join a guild that is doing the raid", I understand that, but I like my guild, I like the people in it and I like how we are progressing as a group. About a month ago we started farming the HAAT, it was great to be a part of that.

I get it, I should either except the fact that I will will never catch up in Arena or I need to bail on my guild. I guess that's how it is and I need to get over it, but it's a pretty crappy thing to have to except. (Also of note; it's not something that has ever been a part the game before as far as I can tell. )

"Nitrogen;c-1587874" wrote:

"kalidor;c-1586478" wrote:

"Nitrogen;c-1586456" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1586444" wrote:
... And the people that aren't completing HSith yet and are thinking "well, not my problem" - it will be soon enough.

Actually, we're thinking; There goes any chance of ever finishing in the top 10 of Arena again.

And that could be why I don't care - I gave up on Arena over a year ago. I don't have the time before payout to compete, and I'm in a Nov'15 server. I'm happy with being in the top 50. Once I decided to settle for that as F2P, the game became much less stressful. Now all these ups & downs with meta shifts and updates are much less drama for me, and I'm happier for it.

That is fair. I'm in a Oct '17 shard and have continually been in the top 50, most of the time top 10, but I am not in a HSith guild and am falling farther and farther behind. I find it almost impossible to finish top 10 now, and I don't see this improving.

Many people will say - "join a guild that is doing the raid", I understand that, but I like my guild, I like the people in it and I like how we are progressing as a group. About a month ago we started farming the HAAT, it was great to be a part of that.

I get it, I should either except the fact that I will will never catch up in Arena or I need to bail on my guild. I guess that's how it is and I need to get over it, but it's a pretty **** thing to have to except. (Also of note; it's not something that has ever been a part the game before as far as I can tell. )

It was a bit of a thing when herioc tank was still new, and people were getting GK and there weren't a lot of counters to him. We'll see the same thing starting with Traya. G12+ is a little different, as it's an incremental improvement to existing characters.
Anyways, I'm happier about G12+ being top 10 in Heroic sith than I am about it being given to everyone doing herioc sith. But I'm not happy about not being able to get it, and like you I have no intention of abandoning my guild that I've developed a great rapport with.

All 3 of the top scorers in my guild for full pieces ready to equip in our last STR. I have like 19 or 15 salvage of random unrelated pieces scoring #11 and #29. Rewards suck and are funneled for the top scorers

"Boba_The_Fetter;c-1587930" wrote:
All 3 of the top scorers in my guild for full pieces ready to equip in our last STR. I have like 19 or 15 salvage of random unrelated pieces scoring #11 and #29. Rewards suck and are funneled for the top scorers

Begun the Gap War has.

"Maxminus1980;c-1587949" wrote:
If anything the drop rate for character shards and gears has tanked in the last few weeks.

They don't have to manipulate drop rates. In the past two months they have directly manipulated the ship meta and the raid reward structure - both to the detriment of most players. Why would they even need to manipulate the drop rate?

I rarely ever use that word but just saw them and had the exact same response as you, thats ludicrous.

Said this in the megathread a couple days ago