How matchmaking on TW/GAC really work

"GJO;c-2029093" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2029090" wrote:

"GJO;c-2029072" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2029063" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2029039" wrote:

"Scuttlebutt;c-2029037" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2029033" wrote:

"GJO;d-220842" wrote:
Somebody knows?

I believe GAC refers to the 80 powerful PG toons only. Or something like that.

But TW? Is pure PG?

All they have ever confirmed, to my knowledge, is that TW matches on active power (only guild members who joined the war).

Also, only units above 6000 power, and I believe at one point it was supposed to weigh the best players (or maybe teams) in the guild heavier than others. I don’t know if that second part was ever implemented or if it’s still in effect.

If it ever was it certainly isn’t now.

It does count units below 6000 power for matchmaking, you just can’t use them in battles.

Devs stated.... once upon a time cant find it now... that tw is based on registered gp over 6000. I definitely remember this 100% we even have old tw notes saying not to take gp over 6k for tw to make better matchups.

Some may call this sandbagging but we call it a more familiar term, strategy.

But you can see, your active PG if you enter TW with 50 ppl is the same of your guild, they aren't taking out these under-6kPG-toons

How can I see?

There is no "active gp" number in game that players can reference.

The active GP above 6k is used by the matchmaking algorithm, it's not displayed in game for you to cross reference.

Is not this one?

That GP is just used to determine rewards bracket, as far as I know.

i thought GAC was top 65 toons now?

"GJO;c-2029093" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2029090" wrote:

"GJO;c-2029072" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2029063" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2029039" wrote:

"Scuttlebutt;c-2029037" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2029033" wrote:

"GJO;d-220842" wrote:
Somebody knows?

I believe GAC refers to the 80 powerful PG toons only. Or something like that.

But TW? Is pure PG?

All they have ever confirmed, to my knowledge, is that TW matches on active power (only guild members who joined the war).

Also, only units above 6000 power, and I believe at one point it was supposed to weigh the best players (or maybe teams) in the guild heavier than others. I don’t know if that second part was ever implemented or if it’s still in effect.

If it ever was it certainly isn’t now.

It does count units below 6000 power for matchmaking, you just can’t use them in battles.

Devs stated.... once upon a time cant find it now... that tw is based on registered gp over 6000. I definitely remember this 100% we even have old tw notes saying not to take gp over 6k for tw to make better matchups.

Some may call this sandbagging but we call it a more familiar term, strategy.

But you can see, your active PG if you enter TW with 50 ppl is the same of your guild, they aren't taking out these under-6kPG-toons

How can I see?

There is no "active gp" number in game that players can reference.

The active GP above 6k is used by the matchmaking algorithm, it's not displayed in game for you to cross reference.

Is not this one?

It is not that one. Correct.

That GP is total gp registered and it is used for rewards bracket, NOT for matchmaking.

Matchmaking is based on that GP but any units below 6k are not counted towards the match being made.

We do not have visibility to the registered gp over 6k that is used for matchmaking, this is why discord bots commonly show large swings in gp in tw because the discord bot is using total gp listed in the game not the actual gp registered and above 6k.

GAC matchmaking isn’t perfect but it’s a lot better now than when it was pure gp.

I wish they would do the same for TW, we are an independent f2p more casual guild with a decent gp but we get consistently matched against much more focused guilds that routinely trounce us. It isn’t even fun.

I’ve asked in the Q&A but to my knowledge it’s never been addressed by the devs and I get the sense it isn’t on the to-do list.

"W00kiemonster;c-2029200" wrote:
GAC matchmaking isn’t perfect but it’s a lot better now than when it was pure gp.

I wish they would do the same for TW, we are an independent f2p more casual guild with a decent gp but we get consistently matched against much more focused guilds that routinely trounce us. It isn’t even fun.

I’ve asked in the Q&A but to my knowledge it’s never been addressed by the devs and I get the sense it isn’t on the to-do list.

Yes looking at the top 80 characters for all 50 members then matching on that gp would be much much better than the current 6k arbitrary cutoff used in tw...., plus 6k is dated and a 7k or 8k even 10k power character is essentially just as useless as a g1 lvl1 0k gp character.

I agree with ya 100%

"Nadebotfm;c-2029191" wrote:
i thought GAC was top 65 toons now?

depends of division.
its the number of toons to have a full squad on D on every spot and one full squad of A on every spot. different div got different number of char squads

"Lio;c-2029096" wrote:

"GJO;c-2029093" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2029090" wrote:

"GJO;c-2029072" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2029063" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2029039" wrote:

"Scuttlebutt;c-2029037" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2029033" wrote:

"GJO;d-220842" wrote:
Somebody knows?

I believe GAC refers to the 80 powerful PG toons only. Or something like that.

But TW? Is pure PG?

All they have ever confirmed, to my knowledge, is that TW matches on active power (only guild members who joined the war).

Also, only units above 6000 power, and I believe at one point it was supposed to weigh the best players (or maybe teams) in the guild heavier than others. I don’t know if that second part was ever implemented or if it’s still in effect.

If it ever was it certainly isn’t now.

It does count units below 6000 power for matchmaking, you just can’t use them in battles.

Devs stated.... once upon a time cant find it now... that tw is based on registered gp over 6000. I definitely remember this 100% we even have old tw notes saying not to take gp over 6k for tw to make better matchups.

Some may call this sandbagging but we call it a more familiar term, strategy.

But you can see, your active PG if you enter TW with 50 ppl is the same of your guild, they aren't taking out these under-6kPG-toons

How can I see?

There is no "active gp" number in game that players can reference.

The active GP above 6k is used by the matchmaking algorithm, it's not displayed in game for you to cross reference.

Is not this one?

My comment is not at all relevant to the thread, just wanted to give you kudos for being bilingual. Especially with a different alphabet.

I'm Brazilian. I speak Russian because I'm married to a Russian girl.
:-)

Edit: BlueStacks is installed on her PC

"W00kiemonster;c-2029200" wrote:
GAC matchmaking isn’t perfect but it’s a lot better now than when it was pure gp.

I wish they would do the same for TW, we are an independent f2p more casual guild with a decent gp but we get consistently matched against much more focused guilds that routinely trounce us. It isn’t even fun.

I’ve asked in the Q&A but to my knowledge it’s never been addressed by the devs and I get the sense it isn’t on the to-do list.

Same here. Sandbagging all the time.

In order to get a fair matchmaking we need to block 5 to 6 ppl from TW.

I completely forgot about the arbitrary nature of the 6k requirement.

Or Even if instead of doing a set quantity of the top toons like gac - make it based on number of characters over a higher gp threshold like 15k which would make it a bit more relevant.

Pretty much any additional criteria would be an improvement.

"W00kiemonster;c-2029323" wrote:
I completely forgot about the arbitrary nature of the 6k requirement.

Or Even if instead of doing a set quantity of the top toons like gac - make it based on number of characters over a higher gp threshold like 15k which would make it a bit more relevant.

Pretty much any additional criteria would be an improvement.

C'mon, is pretty easy. Just add a multiplier to meta toons PG.
GAS, Nego and Malevolence would worth 20x his own PG
Malak, Hound's Tooth, Mil F would worth 10x his own PG
JKR, DR, Padme, GG 5x his own PG

There it is, it would bring some balance. Or something like that.