I have pretty much been saying it's good for the game. I guess I hadn't fought enough of them to see how ridiculous it actually is! It's not good for the game whatsoever. It's the equivalent of the kid in high school that would sucker punch people and then run away. He could brag about how many fat lips he gave out but it didn't make him a good fighter. If this is the best the Devs can come up with to offset other team comps in arena then shame on them. Between yesterday and today I battled 3-4 Dooku teams that I literally could not hit. It's not like the matches were close and I lost in the end. It wasn't even a contest. It's not just bad RNG. You atleast have a chance to overcome bad RNG. When these teams dodge at that high of a rate it doesn't really matter who they have around Dooku. They could have Dooku lead and insert any 4 other chars and still be hard to beat. I'm not talking about being dodged 30% of the time. I'm talking 70%. I have both win and lost matches in the past where the RNG is stacked against me. You know... They are critting, you are not, they are sticking stuns, you aren't. Your QGJ doesn't knock down a taunt. That kind of stuff sucks but it isn't impossible to overcome. I'm fully prepared to get trashed for this post. Luckily... I don't give a rats behind about the people that will come on this thread and make fun of me. I could level up my 5* Dooku today and have him at 6* in a few days. I'm not going to do it. I don't want the crystals bad enough to join this ridiculous evasion meta. I will see you guys back in the top 10 when the Devs get their heads out of their backsides and realize this does not make the game more fun.Hey... Let's all build Dooku squads and see who can dodge the most! Sounds like a blast!!

I have a team that is Dooku lead and it has 2 major weaknesses. You need to exploit them better. Adding Dooku has basically turned the game into rock, paper, scissors. A lot healthier than all QGJ teams in my humble opinion.

Dooku the Noobslayer strikes again??

Nah, there is one team I can't even touch with my Dooku teams. Thankfully everyone is ether QGJ or Dooku themselves or the Dooku leads would all be jumping on the next bandwagon. Keep searching - you'll find it :)

"Will_Cocishuge;237440" wrote:Everyone in my sever runs Dooku teams and they are highly beatable. If you lose 1 out of 10 why cry?http://imgur.com/a/kE6riCase and point. Dooku teams battling Dooku teams. My server is actually much more diverse than that but it won't be for long if this ridiculously high dodge rate is allowed to continue. Where did I say I lost 1 out of 10? It's much higher than that. No it's not my squad so let's not go there. The whole point is that it doesn't matter how good your own squad is and it doesn't really matter how good their squad is if they are dodging everything. There is no counter to dodge.

"JoshG;237454" wrote:Dooku the Noobslayer strikes again??Negative... Far from a noob here. Generally in the top 10-20. I can put together several different squads. It doesn't matter. If you can't hit them you can't beat them. It's not even Dooku himself. I have always been able to deal with him just fine. There is no strategy against dodge.

I'm changing my stance on the Dooku led squads

133 Replies

GuinUK
9 years ago
I have a team that is Dooku lead and it has 2 major weaknesses. You need to exploit them better.

Adding Dooku has basically turned the game into rock, paper, scissors. A lot healthier than all QGJ teams in my humble opinion.
smooth2772
9 years ago
Dooku the Noobslayer strikes again??
GuinUK
9 years ago
Nah, there is one team I can't even touch with my Dooku teams. Thankfully everyone is ether QGJ or Dooku themselves or the Dooku leads would all be jumping on the next bandwagon.

Keep searching - you'll find it :)
MrClean621Z
9 years ago
"Will_Cocishuge;237440" wrote:
Everyone in my sever runs Dooku teams and they are highly beatable. If you lose 1 out of 10 why cry?

http://imgur.com/a/kE6ri

Case and point. Dooku teams battling Dooku teams. My server is actually much more diverse than that but it won't be for long if this ridiculously high dodge rate is allowed to continue.

Where did I say I lost 1 out of 10? It's much higher than that. No it's not my squad so let's not go there. The whole point is that it doesn't matter how good your own squad is and it doesn't really matter how good their squad is if they are dodging everything. There is no counter to dodge.
MrClean621Z
9 years ago
"JoshG;237454" wrote:
Dooku the Noobslayer strikes again??

Negative... Far from a noob here. Generally in the top 10-20. I can put together several different squads. It doesn't matter. If you can't hit them you can't beat them. It's not even Dooku himself. I have always been able to deal with him just fine. There is no strategy against dodge.
GuinUK
9 years ago
I'm F2P as well and share your frustration with that.

I'll agree I was gutted when my Sidious team fell from #12 to #236 overnight and admit to jumping on the Dooku bandwagon to get back to the top 20. Couldn't afford to lose those crystals.

That being said I think that the current meta allows for 3 types of team, whereas in the past we have literally had either the droid meta, the Sidious meta or QGJ meta as the only solution. This meta still allows a speed team. It also allows dodge Sidious to be annoying. It also allows Yoda teams to have a good go. And of course Dooku (arguably the strongest team defensively)

Where I agree with your point the Doogers are annoying, at last there is some variety. It just seems nobody is choosing to go with the alternatives.
Ztyledk
9 years ago
Problem isn't Dooku, but how RNG works in battle
Here is what I usually experience
2-3 battles where I just crush the Dooku team, don't see much of his lead skill, then 1 where everyone evading all the time
Here is my tip for when people go into a battle with a Dooku team, treat it from the beginning of the battle like it will be like the last example, and you most likely will win the battle
gungnir75
9 years ago
I feel your pain. I too really enjoyed the Dooku lead in the beginning.
Now 34 of 50 in top of my board run dooku.
The fifth spot will vary a bit but you can count on
Dooku
Rey
RG
Gs
And amazing dodges from the ai every time all the time.
I have in general 2 of 5 battles end with my team only landing 1 or 2 hits.

While the roughly 120 battles fought over the past week is a teeny weeny sample size for the reciculous dodge rate I have experienced , it is indicative of the rng I am having.

I imagine it's great for game revenue but I myself am considering just not playing arena until it changes.

Or I can just work harder to finish up my Rey and give in and farm the bug!

I still really like my dooku team but it is rather brain melting to fight through the sea of dodges.
scuba75
Legend
9 years ago
So you want to go back to all Qgj lead speed dps teams? Or galaxy of Poe? It was OK for speed DPS combo but not evasion.? It is OK to one shot an opponent but it is not ok for the opponent to now done that?

Qgj lead teams with Yoda and high DPS had been the norm for a while. Dooku does good against jedi teams so yeah he is going to be used. I still face more Qgj, Yoda DPS teams than dooku led.

IMO this shift is more annoying/frustrating because:
-Most at higher levels wrote dooku off as a useless and stopped working on him. Then he got a fix.
-There was another purpose in farming QGJ since he could be used in the Yoda event so most got him leveled up. But he is not the best lead anymore, still a great one but now their are more options.
-people got Yoda and want to use him.

BTW I beat a dooku led team with a teebo led team. I am personally using dooku only against jedi led teams.
smooth2772
9 years ago
"MrClean621;237485" wrote:
"JoshG;237454" wrote:
Dooku the Noobslayer strikes again??

Negative... Far from a noob here. Generally in the top 10-20. I can put together several different squads. It doesn't matter. If you can't hit them you can't beat them. It's not even Dooku himself. I have always been able to deal with him just fine. There is no strategy against dodge.

Ahh. I guess all of the tears threw me off.