Incoming Changes to Vader Zeta!

"Tuftedpaper85;893394" wrote:

"Acrofales;892643" wrote:

"TheFoxReDux;892637" wrote:
Why would you expect to get a refund over a bug fix? Did you grind a Zader for the bug or because of the what his zeta'd leader ability is supposed to be? You don't get refunds for bug fixes and no game I know of would do that unless the bug deletes items or currency. Downtime is a different story.

I see your argument and raise you a Zariss bugfix.

Zariss wasn't a big fix though. She was working the way they intended her to, it's just that they realized that they also didn't intend for people to create tanky teams that were incredibly difficult to beat in five minutes. They nerfed her

"Mullato;893349" wrote:

"Vertigo;893339" wrote:

"Mullato;893329" wrote:

"Vertigo;893326" wrote:

"Mullato;893322" wrote:

"AndrewIss;893306" wrote:

"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.

That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...

It does trigger biggs, just experienced in GW

No it doesn't. You might be talking about his heal move triggering Biggs.

@Mullato
Crackling doom CAN give Biggs 100% TM, but only if it is a Crit. Crackling doom isn't tagged as Empire damage, but it's still damage that can crit just like any other damage. If it crits and Biggs isn't shocked, Biggs will gain 100% TM.

Oh OK, never seen it CRIT.

I don't really know what to tell you other than to watch more carefully? You've probably already shocked Biggs before it crits him anyways.

Not saying I don't believe you, but that's beside the point. All I'm saying is If it doesn't proc Biggs on a non-crit then it's not empire. So since it's not empire it also shouldn't TMR Jedi and rebels.

"scuba;893610" wrote:

"Mullato;893349" wrote:

"Vertigo;893339" wrote:

"Mullato;893329" wrote:

"Vertigo;893326" wrote:

"Mullato;893322" wrote:

"AndrewIss;893306" wrote:

"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.

That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...

It does trigger biggs, just experienced in GW

No it doesn't. You might be talking about his heal move triggering Biggs.

@Mullato
Crackling doom CAN give Biggs 100% TM, but only if it is a Crit. Crackling doom isn't tagged as Empire damage, but it's still damage that can crit just like any other damage. If it crits and Biggs isn't shocked, Biggs will gain 100% TM.

Oh OK, never seen it CRIT.

I don't really know what to tell you other than to watch more carefully? You've probably already shocked Biggs before it crits him anyways.

Not saying I don't believe you, but that's beside the point. All I'm saying is If it doesn't proc Biggs on a non-crit then it's not empire. So since it's not empire it also shouldn't TMR Jedi and rebels.

Then TFP and ST should never remove TM as they also do not trigger biggs on non-crit

"Mullato;893653" wrote:

"scuba;893610" wrote:

"Mullato;893349" wrote:

"Vertigo;893339" wrote:

"Mullato;893329" wrote:

"Vertigo;893326" wrote:

"Mullato;893322" wrote:

"AndrewIss;893306" wrote:

"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.

That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...

It does trigger biggs, just experienced in GW

No it doesn't. You might be talking about his heal move triggering Biggs.

@Mullato
Crackling doom CAN give Biggs 100% TM, but only if it is a Crit. Crackling doom isn't tagged as Empire damage, but it's still damage that can crit just like any other damage. If it crits and Biggs isn't shocked, Biggs will gain 100% TM.

Oh OK, never seen it CRIT.

I don't really know what to tell you other than to watch more carefully? You've probably already shocked Biggs before it crits him anyways.

Not saying I don't believe you, but that's beside the point. All I'm saying is If it doesn't proc Biggs on a non-crit then it's not empire. So since it's not empire it also shouldn't TMR Jedi and rebels.

Then TFP and ST should never remove TM as they also do not trigger biggs on non-crit

I'd be perfectly fine with that. :wink:

"Tatts;893747" wrote:
I'm sorry mullato but just because u want to run jedi doesn't mean the ability shouldn't work exactly as intended, running an empire team we have to deal with biggs getting 100% tm 3-4 times in row from everyone's opening attacks. It's in his description so if I choose to run empire against a team with biggs I suffer the consequences, if u choose to run jedi/rebels then u suffer the consequence of each individual toon having a 50% chance to have 20% tm removed! You talk as if it Always reduces all 5 toons tm after every attack and that he attacks constantly like you'd never have a turn again his base speed is slow as molasses and even modded with good speed he's slow compared to speed modded zQGJ jedis

"Mullato;893757" wrote:

"Tatts;893747" wrote:
I'm sorry mullato but just because u want to run jedi doesn't mean the ability shouldn't work exactly as intended, running an empire team we have to deal with biggs getting 100% tm 3-4 times in row from everyone's opening attacks. It's in his description so if I choose to run empire against a team with biggs I suffer the consequences, if u choose to run jedi/rebels then u suffer the consequence of each individual toon having a 50% chance to have 20% tm removed! You talk as if it Always reduces all 5 toons tm after every attack and that he attacks constantly like you'd never have a turn again his base speed is slow as molasses and even modded with good speed he's slow compared to speed modded zQGJ jedis

Yeah yeah, I would still beat Zader teams, but all I'm saying is this has been working the same way for over 6 months now. The only reason you guys suddenly want it fixed is because it's advantageous to you.

Back when wiggs were meta if crackling doom triggered Biggs he'd eat palpatine teams alive. So no one really cared.

Now that everyone has Zader and sees that crackling doom could potentially remove TM every turn they suddenly want it fixed?

"RAYRAY;893800" wrote:

"Mullato;893757" wrote:

"Tatts;893747" wrote:
I'm sorry mullato but just because u want to run jedi doesn't mean the ability shouldn't work exactly as intended, running an empire team we have to deal with biggs getting 100% tm 3-4 times in row from everyone's opening attacks. It's in his description so if I choose to run empire against a team with biggs I suffer the consequences, if u choose to run jedi/rebels then u suffer the consequence of each individual toon having a 50% chance to have 20% tm removed! You talk as if it Always reduces all 5 toons tm after every attack and that he attacks constantly like you'd never have a turn again his base speed is slow as molasses and even modded with good speed he's slow compared to speed modded zQGJ jedis

Yeah yeah, I would still beat Zader teams, but all I'm saying is this has been working the same way for over 6 months now. The only reason you guys suddenly want it fixed is because it's advantageous to you.

Back when wiggs were meta if crackling doom triggered Biggs he'd eat palpatine teams alive. So no one really cared.

Now that everyone has Zader and sees that crackling doom could potentially remove TM every turn they suddenly want it fixed?

Funny thing is that I wasn't even aware of it because I have never ran palp with my zader. Palp is a liability, compared to other choices.

"StormTro0p3R_H;893816" wrote:
So I see alot of specific talk of TFP basic and EP shock...I'm wondering about the turn meter removal when TFP aoes and it's dodged (zQGJ.) This is getting fixed? CG_Kozispoon