It is scary how much these relics cost.

Relics will now dominate this game.

I just took my GMY up two Relic tiers, just because I was curious about both the process and how much better your toons would get.

After adding 2 relic tiers, the total bonuses are MUCH less than I get from my mods, and that's just for the stats that are actually increased. In addition my mods increase Speed, but the Relic tiers don't. My GMY had +2900 special damage, +3600 Health, and +94 speed from mods, the three most relevant stats for GMY. I can see the bonus I would get if I boosted him to RelicTier3 (even though I haven't given him that boost yet). At relic Tier3, I would get +6800 Health (so this is a better health bonus than the mods), but +1160 Special Damage and +ZERO speed.

So it's basically like removing his Offense set, giving him 2 Health Sets, but keeping primaries the same and wiping out all speed bonuses. That's for THREE relic tiers.

In other words, Relic tiers are not close to as good as a set of mods that is appropriate to the character. Yes, very, very top-tier Relics will dominate. Low-tier Relics will have an effect, but not close to the effect of a good mod set.

"MasterSeedy;c-1959995" wrote:

Relics will now dominate this game.

I just took my GMY up two Relic tiers, just because I was curious about both the process and how much better your toons would get.

After adding 2 relic tiers, the total bonuses are MUCH less than I get from my mods, and that's just for the stats that are actually increased. In addition my mods increase Speed, but the Relic tiers don't. My GMY had +2900 special damage, +3600 Health, and +94 speed from mods, the three most relevant stats for GMY. I can see the bonus I would get if I boosted him to RelicTier3 (even though I haven't given him that boost yet). At relic Tier3, I would get +6800 Health (so this is a better health bonus than the mods), but +1160 Special Damage and +ZERO speed.

So it's basically like removing his Offense set, giving him 2 Health Sets, but keeping primaries the same and wiping out all speed bonuses. That's for THREE relic tiers.

In other words, Relic tiers are not close to as good as a set of mods that is appropriate to the character. Yes, very, very top-tier Relics will dominate. Low-tier Relics will have an effect, but not close to the effect of a good mod set.

Tier 2 relic is like 2 dot gray mods, if you want a comparison. Tier 7 golden ones.

"MasterSeedy;c-1959995" wrote:

Relics will now dominate this game.

I just took my GMY up two Relic tiers, just because I was curious about both the process and how much better your toons would get.

After adding 2 relic tiers, the total bonuses are MUCH less than I get from my mods, and that's just for the stats that are actually increased. In addition my mods increase Speed, but the Relic tiers don't. My GMY had +2900 special damage, +3600 Health, and +94 speed from mods, the three most relevant stats for GMY. I can see the bonus I would get if I boosted him to RelicTier3 (even though I haven't given him that boost yet). At relic Tier3, I would get +6800 Health (so this is a better health bonus than the mods), but +1160 Special Damage and +ZERO speed.

So it's basically like removing his Offense set, giving him 2 Health Sets, but keeping primaries the same and wiping out all speed bonuses. That's for THREE relic tiers.

In other words, Relic tiers are not close to as good as a set of mods that is appropriate to the character. Yes, very, very top-tier Relics will dominate. Low-tier Relics will have an effect, but not close to the effect of a good mod set.

You do realize that the relic bonuses also boost mods right?

Relics actually break speed mods even more because relics give a significant damage boost but only minimal survivability boost to most characters. So at relic lvl 7 you end up 1 shotting almost everything and who wins is entirely dependent on speed.

tbh: I'm super happy that I have exactly 1 G13 char (Han Solo) on my 2 accounts. thereby I don't need to bother with this relics too much.

@BaldingHead90

Relic tiers are not close to as good as a set of mods that is appropriate to the character. Yes, very, very top-tier Relics will dominate. Low-tier Relics will have an effect, but not close to the effect of a good mod set.

Wow you took your Yoda's relic up a whole two levels and you didn't see an improvement!?!

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you couldn't read. Yes, I did see an improvement. I even gave you numbers on exactly how large the improvement is.

everyone can get those early 3-4 levels, it's the ones after that have the biggest increases and the ones you'll need to grind months for.

And thus my message to people: Don't panic. The easily available tiers make a difference, but not even as much as a good mod set. The tiers that really make a difference, as you say, require extensive grinding. Thus no one needs to fear that Relic-enhanced toons are going to instantly dominate.

That's the point son,

Thank you for your condescension, but the word you're looking for is "daughter". Women play this game too. But go ahead if you like being wrong, just keep assuming you already know everything and don't have to actually read what anyone else is saying. I'm sure it will work out just fine for you.

900 gears for 1 level 1 relic ? Are you serious ?
And where are the unused gears for level 5 ? It requires more G12 Gears ..
Shame is the only word that comes to mind ...

Imagine all my toons are G13.
I played this game for 3 years. Then the picture below shows 3 years of farming.
How many toons could I bring to level 7 relics if only the basic one was required ...
3/4 toons ... 3 years of farming = 4 toons and only for the basic gears ..
???

@BaldingHead90

I have enough people in my shard with 3 relic 7 Revans, Malaks and Bastilas to make your poor argument crumble.

Really? LOL

BaldingHead:

the that have the biggest increases the ones you'll need to grind months for.

Also BaldingHead:

Numerous people in my shard have Relic7 DR, Malak, and Bastila within hours!

So you agree that it will take months for the important Relic tiers to become relevant, but you also want everyone to know that it only takes hours before your shard becomes impossibly dominated by Maxed-Relic Darth Revan squads.

I thought you just weren't reading and understanding other people, but now I have to wonder if you're reading and understanding yourself.

Yes, relics change the game like any new gear tier. Yes, relics are going to both change and add to the gear crunch, like every new gear tier. Yes, whales are going to spend money to instantly upgrade some characters.

But no, this isn't going to have instant effects for most players. If you're not fighting whales for Arena rank, those high tier relics aren't going to be relevant for at least weeks, and more probably months. If you personally are in the minority of people who are FTP and competing against Whales in Squad Arena, I'm sorry for you, but your experience isn't relevant to the vast majority of players.

I like my Han Solo doing 7K damage with these new relics. :)

Yet to spend a cent too.