It's a gold eyeball salvage thread

Complete amount of needs in most gated gear.

"No_Try;c-2006325" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2006213" wrote:

"GunsAtFour;c-2006205" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2006201" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2006124" wrote:
CG did answer us.

People kept posting “remove challenge gear from raid rewards”, so they did.

I'm sorry, but that's not why they removed them. They have a member of the development team who's responsible for balancing the in-game economy. They might have been the (false) reason given - the actual reason is "gated progression".

People have posted a lot of things en masse, and CG has ignored them. This was not miraculously one of the few times CG has listened to the player base.

regardless, does not change the fact that we all got screwed

Agreed. My point was simply that CG didn't act on players' request.

I don't know if you remember the forum topics rampant at that time but CG acted on playerbases request for "removing challenge gear from raids". They were obviously aware removal of this specific was one for their benefit and at expense of us. I made numerous topic along with other people that were also aware which was pushed into vagueness by "I have thousands of it" folks so they happily slipped the nerf with the overall change.

Here's the announcement. https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/179143/upcoming-sith-raid-changes

Correct. My point all along has been that CG's action on this matter was not altruistic. Perhaps they cited some of those with undeveloped rosters complaining about "challenge gear" - but intentionally ignored those players further along that were voicing the need for golden eyeballs to remain (I also was one voicing that concern).

I realize CG said that they were doing so because they were "listening" - but the next time CG does something that is beneficial to the players without it helping the bottom line, will be the first. Anyone that thinks CG didn't know they were tightening the gear crunch when they made the change (regardless as to whatever "reason" CG gave), is hopelessly naive.

"Lysandrax;c-2006251" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006242" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006235" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You got me, amazing. I have been eating them.
Thank you for the value you brought to the conversation.

You're welcome. And my value to this conversation is just a question: How comes that other players don't have these problems even if they upgrade a lot? Yes, i may upgrade other toons. But i don't buy it that you used literally thousands of those golden eyes on toons that are somewhat useful. To be more specific: I don't believe you ever had a lot of them which means you're either not playing that long or never participated in events where you can get those. The first one is a matter of time like for every other gear so work to it as everyone else did. The second one is your own fault.

You're not upgrading a lot...
300k in a few months? I have gone up 300k since last GAC, no whaling.

You will inevitably face this gear wall.

Also inb4
"Well what do you expect increasing that many toons at once?!"
I

"TVF;c-2006335" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You're either lucky or purposely not upgrading all the very good toons that need them. I don't make complain threads, it is what it is, but I'm 4.5m and I have 110 of these things.

You need a total of 168 fully crafted eye pieces in the whole game by now. I've used 55 in total and could craft another 63 if i would have the related salvage. That's 118 out of 168, the remaining 50 are on toons that are most likely never useful. So i'm done with eyes for my entire SWGoH career right now. So even if i had upgraded all the useful toons who need this gear my storage may be depleted but i wouldn't need much more of it if any. So what am i doing wrong that i'm not craving for that stuff?

"Nikoms565;c-2006385" wrote:

"No_Try;c-2006325" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2006213" wrote:

"GunsAtFour;c-2006205" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2006201" wrote:

"DarjeloSalas;c-2006124" wrote:
CG did answer us.

People kept posting “remove challenge gear from raid rewards”, so they did.

I'm sorry, but that's not why they removed them. They have a member of the development team who's responsible for balancing the in-game economy. They might have been the (false) reason given - the actual reason is "gated progression".

People have posted a lot of things en masse, and CG has ignored them. This was not miraculously one of the few times CG has listened to the player base.

regardless, does not change the fact that we all got screwed

Agreed. My point was simply that CG didn't act on players' request.

I don't know if you remember the forum topics rampant at that time but CG acted on playerbases request for "removing challenge gear from raids". They were obviously aware removal of this specific was one for their benefit and at expense of us. I made numerous topic along with other people that were also aware which was pushed into vagueness by "I have thousands of it" folks so they happily slipped the nerf with the overall change.

Here's the announcement. https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/179143/upcoming-sith-raid-changes

Correct. My point all along has been that CG's action on this matter was not altruistic. Perhaps they cited some of those with undeveloped rosters complaining about "challenge gear" - but intentionally ignored those players further along that were voicing the need for golden eyeballs to remain (I also was one voicing that concern).

I realize CG said that they were doing so because they were "listening" - but the next time CG does something that is beneficial to the players without it helping the bottom line, will be the first. Anyone that thinks CG didn't know they were tightening the gear crunch when they made the change (regardless as to whatever "reason" CG gave), is hopelessly naive.

To me it means that they listen AND implement the expressed desire in a way that benefits them. Same with relics, people were complaining having 10ks of useless gear. The way relics are implemented the people that had more piles of those gear gets no benefit out of it since in terms of relic upgrades even a much newer player won't get bottlenecked until r4. After that point everything is bottlenecked and the piles are no use. +data farming adds even one more layer of invisible gear.

Either case, if people put up a more unified front at the time of yellow ball removal, there might have been a slight chance to revert their decision. That ship has long sailed.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter all that much what's bottlenecked and gated, cg will have to introduce new ones as soon as we start catching up and only the name of the thing we need will change.

*I'm not contesting what you are saying, we are just putting the nature of it into words differently.

"Kisakee;c-2006393" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006251" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006242" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006235" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You got me, amazing. I have been eating them.
Thank you for the value you brought to the conversation.

You're welcome. And my value to this conversation is just a question: How comes that other players don't have these problems even if they upgrade a lot? Yes, i may upgrade other toons. But i don't buy it that you used literally thousands of those golden eyes on toons that are somewhat useful. To be more specific: I don't believe you ever had a lot of them which means you're either not playing that long or never participated in events where you can get those. The first one is a matter of time like for every other gear so work to it as everyone else did. The second one is your own fault.

You're not upgrading a lot...
300k in a few months? I have gone up 300k since last GAC, no whaling.

You will inevitably face this gear wall.

Also inb4
"Well what do you expect increasing that many toons at once?!"
I

"TVF;c-2006335" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You're either lucky or purposely not upgrading all the very good toons that need them. I don't make complain threads, it is what it is, but I'm 4.5m and I have 110 of these things.

You need a total of 168 fully crafted eye pieces in the whole game by now. I've used 55 in total and could craft another 63 if i would have the related salvage. That's 118 out of 168, the remaining 50 are on toons that are most likely never useful. So i'm done with eyes for my entire SWGoH career right now. So even if i had upgraded all the useful toons who need this gear my storage may be depleted but i wouldn't need much more of it if any. So what am i doing wrong that i'm not craving for that stuff?

Look at my roster and point out the ones I've wasted.

Ahsoka needs 180 to go from g11->g12. That's around 3.5 weeks to get that salvage and that's just one character. That is how you run out of salvage.

"TVF;c-2006399" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006393" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006251" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006242" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006235" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You got me, amazing. I have been eating them.
Thank you for the value you brought to the conversation.

You're welcome. And my value to this conversation is just a question: How comes that other players don't have these problems even if they upgrade a lot? Yes, i may upgrade other toons. But i don't buy it that you used literally thousands of those golden eyes on toons that are somewhat useful. To be more specific: I don't believe you ever had a lot of them which means you're either not playing that long or never participated in events where you can get those. The first one is a matter of time like for every other gear so work to it as everyone else did. The second one is your own fault.

You're not upgrading a lot...
300k in a few months? I have gone up 300k since last GAC, no whaling.

You will inevitably face this gear wall.

Also inb4
"Well what do you expect increasing that many toons at once?!"
I

"TVF;c-2006335" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You're either lucky or purposely not upgrading all the very good toons that need them. I don't make complain threads, it is what it is, but I'm 4.5m and I have 110 of these things.

You need a total of 168 fully crafted eye pieces in the whole game by now. I've used 55 in total and could craft another 63 if i would have the related salvage. That's 118 out of 168, the remaining 50 are on toons that are most likely never useful. So i'm done with eyes for my entire SWGoH career right now. So even if i had upgraded all the useful toons who need this gear my storage may be depleted but i wouldn't need much more of it if any. So what am i doing wrong that i'm not craving for that stuff?

Look at my roster and point out the ones I've wasted.

Here's one example of why you have more than me. You saved several by ignoring Ackbar. And your fleet rank is outside the top 300.

"Kisakee;c-2006393" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006251" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006242" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006235" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You got me, amazing. I have been eating them.
Thank you for the value you brought to the conversation.

You're welcome. And my value to this conversation is just a question: How comes that other players don't have these problems even if they upgrade a lot? Yes, i may upgrade other toons. But i don't buy it that you used literally thousands of those golden eyes on toons that are somewhat useful. To be more specific: I don't believe you ever had a lot of them which means you're either not playing that long or never participated in events where you can get those. The first one is a matter of time like for every other gear so work to it as everyone else did. The second one is your own fault.

You're not upgrading a lot...
300k in a few months? I have gone up 300k since last GAC, no whaling.

You will inevitably face this gear wall.

Also inb4
"Well what do you expect increasing that many toons at once?!"
I

"TVF;c-2006335" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You're either lucky or purposely not upgrading all the very good toons that need them. I don't make complain threads, it is what it is, but I'm 4.5m and I have 110 of these things.

You need a total of 168 fully crafted eye pieces in the whole game by now.

This count is wrong, swgoh.gg is only counting gear levels that require them. Dooku, for example, needs two to go from 11 to 12, but is only listed once. Same for Clone Sergeant. I'm sure there are others.

It also doesn't count them if it's a sub-component - every Mk6 Stun Gun needs a fully crafted eyeball, but swgoh.gg doesn't include those in the "168" count either.

"chionophile;c-2006403" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006393" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006251" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006242" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006235" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You got me, amazing. I have been eating them.
Thank you for the value you brought to the conversation.

You're welcome. And my value to this conversation is just a question: How comes that other players don't have these problems even if they upgrade a lot? Yes, i may upgrade other toons. But i don't buy it that you used literally thousands of those golden eyes on toons that are somewhat useful. To be more specific: I don't believe you ever had a lot of them which means you're either not playing that long or never participated in events where you can get those. The first one is a matter of time like for every other gear so work to it as everyone else did. The second one is your own fault.

You're not upgrading a lot...
300k in a few months? I have gone up 300k since last GAC, no whaling.

You will inevitably face this gear wall.

Also inb4
"Well what do you expect increasing that many toons at once?!"
I

"TVF;c-2006335" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You're either lucky or purposely not upgrading all the very good toons that need them. I don't make complain threads, it is what it is, but I'm 4.5m and I have 110 of these things.

You need a total of 168 fully crafted eye pieces in the whole game by now.

This count is wrong, swgoh.gg is only counting gear levels that require them. Dooku, for example, needs two to go from 11 to 12, but is only listed once. Same for Clone Sergeant. I'm sure there are others.

It also doesn't count them if it's a sub-component - every Mk6 Stun Gun needs a fully crafted eyeball, but swgoh.gg doesn't include those in the "168" count either.

You can get a profile here and see full counts including nested gear types.
https://galaxy.ovh/

"Kisakee;c-2006242" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2006235" wrote:

"Kisakee;c-2006225" wrote:

"Lysandrax;d-218552" wrote:
Inb4 "i still have thousands of those"

Yes, exactly. I still have over 3.200 of those. I grew over 300k to almost 4,5 million GP since i saw a thread about this theme months ago. So what in the galaxy are you doing? Are you eating them, don't do any events and avoid to get them at all cost just to make these complain threads? I don't get it..

You got me, amazing. I have been eating them.
Thank you for the value you brought to the conversation.

You're welcome. And my value to this conversation is just a question: How comes that other players don't have these problems even if they upgrade a lot? Yes, i may upgrade other toons. But i don't buy it that you used literally thousands of those golden eyes on toons that are somewhat useful. To be more specific: I don't believe you ever had a lot of them which means you're either not playing that long or never participated in events where you can get those. The first one is a matter of time like for every other gear so work to it as everyone else did. The second one is your own fault.

Let's see that .gg, fam.