Jedi Consular - Rework Ideas

"Ichiraikou;c-1793795" wrote:

"AntiFunn;d-197075" wrote:
1) Lightsaber Strike (Basic Abillity) /Omega/
Deal physical damage to target, reduce the cooldown of all abillities by 1 and gain 10% turn meter for each Jedi ally.

That turn meter gain is ridiculous. It is really huge. Not to mention that even jolee has a condition on his cooldown reduction. Sure not a difficult one. But one nonetheless. I say this because jedi (and Galactic republic) generally love out of turn attacks. Therefore this is too much for a basic. But I do think I get why you do it this way with his unique ability (which is worded so weirdly I'm just assuming you mean whenever he uses a special ability). I propose this:
Deal physical damage to target enemy and gain 5% turn meter for each Jedi ally. This attack has a 50% chance to reduce Jedi Consular's Cooldowns by 1. When Jedi Consular uses this ability during his own turn, the turn meter gain and Cooldown reduction chance are doubled.
This way out of turn attacks aren't too powerful, but when he is forced to use it during his own turn, it will not punish him for it.

2) Jedi Healing (Special Abillity) /Omega/ CD:3

Jedi Consular dispells all debuffs from himself and all allies recover health equal to 50% of Jedi Consular's maximum health and gain Defence Up for 2 turns. Jedi Consular gains 40% turn meter and Foresight for 2 turns.

Seeing as his unique grans him stealth and his basic grants him turn meter, the turn meter gain here should be removed. It just ensures he has less time to reduce his cooldowns and be under stealth. You also split the effects for himself up. which is unnecessary. I propose this:
Jedi Consular dispels all debuffs on himself and gains Foresight for 2 turns. All allies recover Health equal to 50% of Jedi Consular's Max Health and gain Defence Up for 2 turns.
Simple and Clean. But still powerful and useful.

3) Attack as Defence (Special Abillity) /Omega/ CD:3

Deal special damage to target and recover health equal to the damage dealt. Then, remove 50% turn meter if at full health. This attack ignores Defence.

Soooo.... In order to use this turn meter reduction effectively I'm gong to have to mod him for Potency? No, just no. You already have a condition to this turn meter removal so I think you are justified to make the turn meter reduction Unresistable. I propose this:
Deal special damage to target and recover health equal to the damage dealt. Then, if Jedi Consular has full health, Remove 50% Turn Meter from target enemy, which can't be Resisted. This attack ignores Defence.

4) Peace within the Force (Unique Abillity) /Omega/ - NEW ABILITY

Jedi Consular has +30% Critical Avoidance and +30% Tenacity. In addition, he gains Stealth for 1 turn and grants 40% turn meter to the ally with the least turn meter whenever he casts an abillity.

I already mentioned this but the wording here is so weird. What do you mean by "casts an ability"? I assume you mean whenever he uses a special ability. In which case it would be better to word it like this:
Jedi Consular has +30% Tenacity and Critical Avoidance. Whenever he uses a Special Ability, Jedi Consular gains Stealth for 1 turn and grants 40% Turn Meter to the other ally with the least amount of Turn Meter.

Love the overall idea thou. Some of the older characters could definitely use an upgrade.

Cool in depth ideas mate. I mostly compared him to other healers like Jolee etc. They were so beastly overpowered that I thought hey, why not?
My idea behind him was that obviously he doesn't deal much damage at all but is someone who is still there and needs to be taken down fast. So I wanted to support the effective turn meter manipulation method greatly.
Since he IS a Jedi Consular - a guy who meditates, likes peaceful methods, heals and helps others etc.

But now that I look at it, the Basic really does need to be reduced.

On the unique, yep, it should have said whenever he casts a special abillity. I mainly thought the basic was an "attack" so my bad there.

So based on the feedback here, nerfed a bit of some abillities. Anyway thanks.

"Sebek;c-1791818" wrote:
60% Turn Meter on a Basic!?
Make that 7.5% Turn Meter for each other jedi ally. That makes 30% Turn Meter.

It's at best 12x4 = 48% (excluding himself) for an all Jedi team.

But yeah if it included himself, it would be definitely too much

Edited and reduced to 10%

"Sebek;c-1793025" wrote:

"AntiFunn;c-1792563" wrote:

"Sebek;c-1791818" wrote:
60% Turn Meter on a Basic!?
Make that 7.5% Turn Meter for each other jedi ally. That makes 30% Turn Meter.

It's at best 12x4 = 48% (excluding himself) for an all Jedi team.

But yeah if it included himself, it would be definitely too much

Edited and reduced to 10%

For each Jedi ally is 60% Turn Meter.
For each OTHER jedi ally is 48% Turn Meter.

Really? I thought it would definitely exclude him since he wouldn't be his own ally lol. But ok cool.

Veers unique mentions all imp trooper allies gain a bunch of stuff. That includes himself. It’s all about the wording.

"AntiFunn;d-197075" wrote:
1) Lightsaber Strike (Basic Abillity) /Omega/
Deal physical damage to target, reduce the cooldown of all abillities by 1 and gain 10% turn meter for each Jedi ally.

That turn meter gain is ridiculous. It is really huge. Not to mention that even jolee has a condition on his cooldown reduction. Sure not a difficult one. But one nonetheless. I say this because jedi (and Galactic republic) generally love out of turn attacks. Therefore this is too much for a basic. But I do think I get why you do it this way with his unique ability (which is worded so weirdly I'm just assuming you mean whenever he uses a special ability). I propose this:
Deal physical damage to target enemy and gain 5% turn meter for each Jedi ally. This attack has a 50% chance to reduce Jedi Consular's Cooldowns by 1. When Jedi Consular uses this ability during his own turn, the turn meter gain and Cooldown reduction chance are doubled.
This way out of turn attacks aren't too powerful, but when he is forced to use it during his own turn, it will not punish him for it.

2) Jedi Healing (Special Abillity) /Omega/ CD:3

Jedi Consular dispells all debuffs from himself and all allies recover health equal to 50% of Jedi Consular's maximum health and gain Defence Up for 2 turns. Jedi Consular gains 40% turn meter and Foresight for 2 turns.

Seeing as his unique grans him stealth and his basic grants him turn meter, the turn meter gain here should be removed. It just ensures he has less time to reduce his cooldowns and be under stealth. You also split the effects for himself up. which is unnecessary. I propose this:
Jedi Consular dispels all debuffs on himself and gains Foresight for 2 turns. All allies recover Health equal to 50% of Jedi Consular's Max Health and gain Defence Up for 2 turns.
Simple and Clean. But still powerful and useful.

3) Attack as Defence (Special Abillity) /Omega/ CD:3

Deal special damage to target and recover health equal to the damage dealt. Then, remove 50% turn meter if at full health. This attack ignores Defence.

Soooo.... In order to use this turn meter reduction effectively I'm gong to have to mod him for Potency? No, just no. You already have a condition to this turn meter removal so I think you are justified to make the turn meter reduction Unresistable. I propose this:
Deal special damage to target and recover health equal to the damage dealt. Then, if Jedi Consular has full health, Remove 50% Turn Meter from target enemy, which can't be Resisted. This attack ignores Defence.

4) Peace within the Force (Unique Abillity) /Omega/ - NEW ABILITY

Jedi Consular has +30% Critical Avoidance and +30% Tenacity. In addition, he gains Stealth for 1 turn and grants 40% turn meter to the ally with the least turn meter whenever he casts an abillity.

I already mentioned this but the wording here is so weird. What do you mean by "casts an ability"? I assume you mean whenever he uses a special ability. In which case it would be better to word it like this:
Jedi Consular has +30% Tenacity and Critical Avoidance. Whenever he uses a Special Ability, Jedi Consular gains Stealth for 1 turn and grants 40% Turn Meter to the other ally with the least amount of Turn Meter.

Love the overall idea thou. Some of the older characters could definitely use an upgrade.

"Tbirds01;c-1793522" wrote:
Veers unique mentions all imp trooper allies gain a bunch of stuff. That includes himself. It’s all about the wording.

Now that you mention it, yeah that's right