Kenobi - S1E5 (Spoilers)

"Screerider;c-2367458" wrote:
Leia's message in R2 could be explained as her being cagey in case it's intercepted. She is pretty excited later on the Death Star when she hears that Obi-Wan is with Luke and Han.

Why wouldn’t she call him Ben in the message then?

"LordDirt;c-2367503" wrote:

"Screerider;c-2367458" wrote:
Leia's message in R2 could be explained as her being cagey in case it's intercepted. She is pretty excited later on the Death Star when she hears that Obi-Wan is with Luke and Han.

Why wouldn’t she call him Ben in the message then?

my guess is to again be slightly discrete and show that they never "talked" before now. instead of saying "Hey Ben its been a long time since I last saw you but my father needs you again ..." .

"Screerider;c-2367458" wrote:
Leia's message in R2 could be explained as her being cagey in case it's intercepted. She is pretty excited later on the Death Star when she hears that Obi-Wan is with Luke and Han.

Cagey? So she gives up that the droid knows where kenobi is on the recording, that bale needs his help and that he needs to get the plans to the alderaan so bale can get them to rebel leadership.... what was she protecting?

Saying he rescued her when she was younger wouldnt have given away any more than what she already did and vader already knows he rescued her. He knows kenobi probably isnt dead yet.

Here is what she took the time to say,

General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to convey my father's request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.

And heres the small tweak that acknowledges their past,

General Kenobi. Years ago you aided my father by rescuing me from the Empire. Now we need you to help us in our continued struggle. I regret that I am unable to convey this request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope.

Small change, but acknowledges the most recent time kenobi helped bale and his family

"flux_rono;c-2367525" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2367503" wrote:

"Screerider;c-2367458" wrote:
Leia's message in R2 could be explained as her being cagey in case it's intercepted. She is pretty excited later on the Death Star when she hears that Obi-Wan is with Luke and Han.

Why wouldn’t she call him Ben in the message then?

my guess is to again be slightly discrete and show that they never "talked" before now. instead of saying "Hey Ben its been a long time since I last saw you but my father needs you again ..." .

That doesnt work because her current message basically says "hey obi wan... my fathers says sup. He needs your help again. Daddy B said you were super l33t in tha clone war drama. Can you check yes to attending the rebellion party on Alderaan... your plus one should be this dope droid with the data in it."

I swear y'all worry about the wrong shit lol. It was a great episode. The Vader/Reva fight scene was epic as well as the flashbacks.

"ShaggyB;c-2367557" wrote:

Small change, but acknowledges the most recent time kenobi helped bale and his family

While I appreciate your thoughts on how to edit a movie from the 70's, it isn't necessary to resolve the supposed "plot hole".

"Sithlords_Inc;c-2367873" wrote:

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"LastJedi13;c-2367086" wrote:
Great episode but they should of had Vader and GI finish off Reva.

Yeah that is the only major issue I had with this episode. In the same vein, also why does Vader keep letting Obi Wan run off?

Because (as this episode tried to underline) he's over confident and blind to alternative scenarios. He doesn't keep letting Obi-Wan go, he just doesn't realise there's a will other than his own. Take the retro fight, time and time again he's sure he's got Kenobi where he wants him. He's just too dumb to realise that's not the case.

So basically the plot keeps Vader from doing what he wants.

Well, I suppose that's irrefutably true. But I think both this mini series and A New Hope show that Anakin / Vader overestimates himself and underestimates Kenobi.

Put simply, Obi-Wan might be less powerful but he's far more intelligent.

Well I wont argue about his escape in the latest episode, but Im not sure how Kenobis escape in the third episode was a result of Kenobi's intelligence or Vader's overconfidence. Its especially jarring seeing him let Kenobi get slowly dragged away 5 meters from him when he can pull down a spaceship.

Yep. Would have been fine if the next episode was not on the inquistive base.

If it was an episode where vader is chasing kenobi and just killing everything that tries to help him... then it would have been vader letting him go to 'play with his food' and draw out his supporters.

But literally they let fire stand between him and his prey after showing him effortlessly pull kenobi through the flames. Why couldnt he just pull him through the taller flames?

I’ll just say again what I said last time: Leia’s message in A New Hope wasn’t to get a rescue, it was to get Kenobi to get the plans to Bail and the Rebellion. Her position was, in her mind, irrelevant.

"TargetEadu;c-2367950" wrote:
I’ll just say again what I said last time: Leia’s message in A New Hope wasn’t to get a rescue, it was to get Kenobi to get the plans to Bail and the Rebellion. Her position was, in her mind, irrelevant.

The issue is kenobi. Clearly he cares about leia. The show points that out all the time.

It would be way easier to move him with personel connection and given that connection, it becomes weird to not mention it.

This makes New Hope's speach feel odd now.

I get that you dont get it and you dont really care, so i will leave it with this...

Due to Kenobi show, parts of A New Hope are now weird, given newly established back stories.

Her speech in New Hope seems like it is coming from someone without any knowledge of the person she is sending the message to.

“General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. I regret that I am unable to present my father’s request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack, and I’m afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed. I have placed information vital to the survival of the Rebellion into the memory systems of this R2 unit. My father will know how to retrieve it. You must see this droid safely delivered to him on Alderaan. This is our most desperate hour. Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope.”