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"Naecabon;43150" wrote:"JohnnySteelAlpha;43144" wrote:"Naecabon;43097" wrote:"Qeltar;43091" wrote:"Naecabon;43072" wrote:
Talking about "answering Poe" by debuffing with dispellers is missing the point of why he's so broken in the first place.
Not really. They could, for example, make a new character with some combination of decent speed, high tenacity and a passive chance to automatically dispel taunts or other buffs. I am not arguing against Poe's OP status in the current meta.
But again, this does nothing to stop the fact Poe is winning the game for you by Taunting in the first place. Because his Turn Meter reduction is a guarantee, happens before any of your guys act (more often than not) and sets up the rest of his team to act first.
You can automatically dispel his Taunt all you want. That's fine with me. Means absolutely nothing to my strategy for winning lol... it's a small annoyance but it will not mean he was any less efficient in winning me a game I'm not even playing. The AI is fully capable of crushing you with Poe ATM
Just fight meter back with meter - it's speed in general that's meta. If it's not Poe, it would be Jinn + Ben.
Also...you can counter Poe just by using toons all faster than him. Just hit ahead of him completely. Kill before he moves. Dooku, Sid, Rey, Jinn (as leader) and Leia are all currently faster than Poe. You can just put out a fast team and watch a Poe + glass cannon build get ate up.
Please stop saying something is broke. That's just not the case. It's a misinformed opinion - even if you have a 100% fully informed opinion at this moment at lvl 60 and projecting to lvl 70 - we are not at end game. We are not close to having a mature end game. Poe is balanced in that his damage is garbage. He has one specific really good use. IF and when that is countered or not valuable due to some other toon or release, he will be pretty useless. He's one dimensional.
Next patch Poe can go first over anyone. He is only beaten by some guys this patch. At 70, not the case. He breaks that barrier and in some games, he will go before even your Dooku. Be ready for it, it will be scary.
He IS broken. I don't really care, I think he's fun, and I like broken stuff. I think it adds flavor to games. But don't pretend he isn't incredibly powerful, and miles ahead of most other guys.
There's no real way to counter somebody that goes before all of your guys and forces them to also all become slower than the rest of his team... it's pure, unfiltered imbalance.
But hey, some of us can continue using him and appreciating him and if you guys don't want to, you have that option! It's a free country! Use whoever you like! =)
yeah I think everyone by now has seen the lvl 70 cap speed potential on Poe - I'm aware of that - yes I'm sure he will be annoying at level cap 70...but my point isn't about 70. 70 isn't end game - it's a temporary stopping point, so we shouldn't balance to that point in the game. That's my point. So what if Poe is strong for some period of time in the game's existence. Let's talk nerf / OP / broke once everyone has seen the entire roster at max gear / max level and many of the unreleased toons are in the population as well.
I can just see Poe if nerfed to have less speed going from useful to useless really fast as he's one dimensional. He's like Barriss to a degree. He's a lopsided character. His damage is terrible, just like Barriss. Reduce that skill much and he's mediocre or situational at best. In hindsight the Barriss nerf was completely unnecessary as the meta shifted hard away from her naturally. Let's not repeat the same mistake here - none of us are as smart as we think we are with this game. More is to come. Gear, toons, counters, etc. I'm just heavy against suggesting anything be nerfed at this point till we get to a mature game point. Sorry to come off aggressive - but I can't take the nerf threads over and over. It's nonsensical given where we are in the game's lifecycle.
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