Being the most iconic SW character, it's ridiculous that Vader deals less than 6k damage on a critical hit. Compare it to Biggs a character with less than 2 minutes screen time and died, and he deals a minimum 10k. And Wedge, a pilot that never held a blaster in the movies and he deals 10 to 15k group damage. A fully maxed Vader with 216% crit dmg should deal at least 15k on his basic attack, and 10 to 15k on his force choke. Also have a 5th ability. In the movies both Vader and Yoda use a special ability called Absorb and dissipate energy. Remember when Han shot Vader? He raised his hand and took the shot in his glove with no damage taken. Vader's 5th ability should be permanent critical avoidance.

Warning! Haters incoming... (l also believe that he needs a LITTLE buff, but there are a lot of haters out there that believe that he is the STRONGEST character in the videogames history)

Agreed. At the very least he needs a 5th ability and a basic change/buff

"BrianBuchanans;809604" wrote:do y'all ever like.... think before you speak? permanent critical avoidance is unreasonable...... y'all keep asking for little buffs but every suggestion is "make it so that the REBEL GODS liTERALLY CAn't touch HiM!!"Permanent crit immunity is a little out there but the rebels entering the game now need a counter. A buff to Vader + adding someone like Krennic+Deathtrooper could be that counter..

Maybe crit hit immunity on a critical hit. And give him some damage. Not just a once every 4 moves sorta big hit. Of even put another debuff on his special that has a chance to put cit chance down on enemies

"RAYRAY;809607" wrote:"BrianBuchanans;809604" wrote:do y'all ever like.... think before you speak? permanent critical avoidance is unreasonable...... y'all keep asking for little buffs but every suggestion is "make it so that the REBEL GODS liTERALLY CAn't touch HiM!!"Permanent crit immunity is a little out there but the rebels entering the game now need a counter. A buff to Vader + adding someone like Krennic+Deathtrooper could be that counter.. Rebels have a counter. It is called Vader.Your whole point for Vader needing a buff, being that rebels need a counter, is just ridiculous.EP, Vader, Shore Already beats every rebel team out there.

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ElleMadara
9 years ago
Warning! Haters incoming... (l also believe that he needs a LITTLE buff, but there are a lot of haters out there that believe that he is the STRONGEST character in the videogames history)
vCx-Redemption
9 years ago
Agreed.

At the very least he needs a 5th ability and a basic change/buff
Player_tjsnk0t4
9 years ago
"BrianBuchanans;809604" wrote:
do y'all ever like.... think before you speak? permanent critical avoidance is unreasonable...... y'all keep asking for little buffs but every suggestion is "make it so that the REBEL GODS liTERALLY CAn't touch HiM!!"

Permanent crit immunity is a little out there but the rebels entering the game now need a counter. A buff to Vader + adding someone like Krennic+Deathtrooper could be that counter.
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barmuka
9 years ago
Maybe crit hit immunity on a critical hit. And give him some damage. Not just a once every 4 moves sorta big hit. Of even put another debuff on his special that has a chance to put cit chance down on enemies
superEwokCat
9 years ago
"RAYRAY;809607" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;809604" wrote:
do y'all ever like.... think before you speak? permanent critical avoidance is unreasonable...... y'all keep asking for little buffs but every suggestion is "make it so that the REBEL GODS liTERALLY CAn't touch HiM!!"

Permanent crit immunity is a little out there but the rebels entering the game now need a counter. A buff to Vader + adding someone like Krennic+Deathtrooper could be that counter.
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Rebels have a counter. It is called Vader.

Your whole point for Vader needing a buff, being that rebels need a counter, is just ridiculous.

EP, Vader, Shore Already beats every rebel team out there.
ChiizuLamb
9 years ago
sprinkle in a little Tie Fighter Pilot and a RG for shits and giggles and VOILA - you have yourself an empire team!
Icemaned24
9 years ago
Vader has always been a beast in the movies, but in game he's just a little kitten.
Player_tjsnk0t4
9 years ago
"Supercat;809641" wrote:
"RAYRAY;809607" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;809604" wrote:
do y'all ever like.... think before you speak? permanent critical avoidance is unreasonable...... y'all keep asking for little buffs but every suggestion is "make it so that the REBEL GODS liTERALLY CAn't touch HiM!!"

Permanent crit immunity is a little out there but the rebels entering the game now need a counter. A buff to Vader + adding someone like Krennic+Deathtrooper could be that counter.
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Rebels have a counter. It is called Vader.

Your whole point for Vader needing a buff, being that rebels need a counter, is just ridiculous.

EP, Vader, Shore Already beats every rebel team out there.

What I am saying is that despite being strong, especially with Zeta or EP lead, The new rebels take it to a new level. So a little bump to vader isn't too much to ask. Have you even fought a Wiggs, Baze, Imwe team?
Boba_The_Fetter
9 years ago
Spoiler
he should be able to do what he did at the end of rogue one
barmuka
9 years ago
"BrianBuchanans;809629" wrote:
"Barmuka_1;809618" wrote:
Maybe crit hit immunity on a critical hit. And give him some damage. Not just a once every 4 moves sorta big hit. Of even put another debuff on his special that has a chance to put cit chance down on enemies

See that's reasonable! Nobody's denying that that could be helpful. The focus that I think we need to have with any potential changes, though, is that Vader's kit exists to stall and refresh between culling blades. Crit immunity on critical hits is a way to do that. A small %heal on debuffs is another, and one that makes up for not having EP lead once you Zeta Vader's lead.

But for some reason instead of asking for these sorts of changes everyone just shouts "NEEDS MAJOR OVERHAUL" when Vader is a really cool, very useful, and super deadly toon when used right as it is.

@BrianBuchanans I am a very reasonable guy. Put his attack to somewhere near 2200 at g9, give him crit down on his aoe and crit immunity on a crit by him and voila he won't be the most bad@$$ toon out there but a viable option to this wiggsdo meta. Put the right pieces around him and it can compete in the arena. Not saying it would go to #1 but top 50 isn't unreasonable. Besides a year and 3 months? Into the game and players are just now unlocking 7* on him. He should be sort of op on his own for the work needed to put in to aquire him at his best.