Mandalorian S2:E5 Chat (SPOILERS)

"LordDunbar;c-2197129" wrote:

"efazboka71;c-2197086" wrote:
As Ashoka said that a Jedi will come for Grogu in Thyton. And i think it will be Luke Skywalker.

Yeah has to be.

We know Mandalorian takes place right before the sequels, and in the sequels Luke is the last jedi alive, so it has to be him

The Mandalorian takes place 3-4 years after empire. That puts it about 25 years before the sequels. Right about the time Luke is starting his Jedi academy I believe.

Ok I finally watched the 5th episode of the mandalorian season 2, and frankly, I'm dissapointed (not too much but definatly dissapointed).

Before you start to raise the pitchforks and tourches, wait, hear me out:

Anakin Skywalker (pre mustafar) is cannonically the most giftedwith the most potential Jedi in history.
However, he never reached his potential. In fact, Obi OWan, who did not even had half of Anakin's potential, was able to match him and even beat him on mustafar.
Why?
Because Anakin had so much potential and raw power, he never felt the need to develop his skill too much. Kenobi on the other hand, spelt sweat and blood all the way and develop his talent.
Same way as in swgoh there could be dumb whale who just brute force everything could be beaten by a player with far lower gp, who use his toons smartly.

In the releam of the series it's like baby yoda (or Grugo) had so much potential but practically his all job in the first 4 episodes of the second season is "being cute".

What I'm trying to say is this episode had so much potential and instead of really develop this potentiall, the directors preffered just brute force most of the time without really reached the potential abd do something really special.
There were too many little (or not little) detailes missing.

Now I gave you the theme of my argumant, allow me to elaborate:

1. First, Thrawn. I love how they only mention him. Did'nt elaborate. That's good- you don't need to give all at the start, and that leave plenty of room and flexibility for the future. I will say that it's less a surprise since every person who watch Rebels knew he isn't dead, and we always knew we'll come back to him someday. I still claim this is great they mentioned him in the episode, just ,aybe not the "wow" they may hoped to achieve.

2. Tyhton. This is something I personally even more excited of than the mentioning of Thrawn. Tython, the birthplace of the Jedi finally reached the screen. But reach there only to "choose its path" and send a force beacon so if there will be a Jedi nearby he might pick up the baby and train him?! Girl, you just said Grogu is unfit to be trained because he is too attached to mando and to the horrors of his past. So if you say someone else can train him better explain why (let it be "I have a different mission", "I am no Jedi" or something else), and if we mentioned "I am no Jedi", where was that line in the episode. It is not just an easter egg or a reference- it is a crucial info relevant to her not taking Grogu, and cllearify things to Mando.
Furtheremore, it's year 9 ABY. Luke Skywalker just started to think about training a new Jedi generation (he took Ben Solo as an apprentice by 15 ABY btw). Are you telling me Ahsoka was blind and did not know about Luke??

3. Ahsoka said she need Mando's help, but she didn't really need it by the look of things. If you tell me she need his help awesome, just show how he actual help her. How he do something she herself cannot.

4. Ahsoka's fighting. If you can see in most of her fighting in the episode, we don't see her "tradmark moves". In fact we mostly see her swinging her lightsaber in a way a regular person will do. No technique, no finest, no acrobatics, just hack & slash. It's only about 10 years after "Rebels" and we all know how she kicked ass there. And don't tell me "It's different because it's not animate- most of her moves does not require too much and if in CW at the battle between Ahsoka & Maul, the directors did the battle with real actors and only animate it later- we know it is possible to do actual choreography.

5. Ahsoka Tano. Anakin Skywalker's padawan, the one who faced Maul in her teens, the one who single handedly beated 2 inquisitors simultaneously, the one who face Darth frikking Vader, will have any difficulty defeating that empire Lady. I don't care how much Thrawn trained her- Ahsoka was trained by Anakin, and by far was the better dualist. The directors could make it like the Sidious vs Maul & Savage, where it was clear Sidious was just playing with them most of the time, but no, not just Ahsoka show some hardship- she actually lost one of her lightsaber during the battle. And again, it was only 10 years after "Rebels". Ahsoka did not hid herself in a desert where that excelerate her aging and did not gave her any actual practice- Ahsoka was active!!.

I will say it was good episode, but dissapointing one, because it could have been so much more than just good- it could've been the best!
The directors did not produce even third than what they could from this episode. They just "brute force" with it's potential, and that what's bummed me a bit

I disagree.

1. She did say that “she” could not train him. That’s easy to understand. She’s not a Jedi. She never promoted beyond Padawan. She never trained anyone. She doesn’t believe in the Jedi way. She watched as her favorite person in the world turned dark because of his attachments and then killed her.
2. She sent them on the journey so that Grogu could decide on his own whether he wanted to be trained. Sending him to Luke takes away that choice.
3. Mando was useful to her to rescue the civilians
4. The fighting was fine. Was the “empire lady” force sensitive? I got that impression. Also, there have been plenty of non-force users that held their own against Jedi and Sith.
5. She’s intentionally trying to not kill the lady, which is way different than trying to slaughter Maul. As I said before, the fighting was fine. Nothing spectacular, but good enough.

Maybe Mace Windu alive and is at temple?

Michael Biehn From Terminator, Alien, Tombstone was great addition

I think the pace of the show was nice and the location sets with the trees and city

The movies could learn alot from this episode

Ahshoka was great but I like Bokaton better

Looks like lots more to come with another jedi maybe Kenobi?

As I know, Tython is the place where everyone is introduced with force and take oath to keep peace as a Jed'Daii. Jed'Daii is the ancient name of Jedi.

This episode is the best thing to happen to Star Wars in many years. They are setting things up for a big cliff hanger on tython and we don’t know which Jedi will turn up.. Luke? Ezra? When gideon shows up there, Mandos got a nice weapon to use against the dark sabers now. If you don’t really understand what’s going on with the entire Star Wars universe (understandable) you should watch the Star Wars theory breakdown videos of each episode on YouTube.

Every episode they release strengthens the storyline of the crappy sequels and makes palpatine surviving more believable and snoke being a failed clone experiment fit in the story nicely (the failed experiments from ep4 look like snoke). The last two episodes have done a really good job of building on the cloning side of Star Wars that often gets brushed aside for lightsaber action. Palpatine is behind everything the whole time, trying to create a suitable vessel for himself so that he can live forever. He’s trying to make force sensitive clones but they reject the blood. They are after Grogu for his blood and his story still has a lot of mystery surrounding it. He survived order 66 and we don’t know what happened to him during his time of “darkness”.

Some Star Wars fans don’t really know ezra / ashoka / thrawns stories and this is a good time to watch the clone wars and rebels series or get a summary of who they are from YouTube cos rumour is they will get a spin off show. Star Wars is so much more than just the original movies and if you love this game then you’ll probably find it interesting to learn more about all the characters.

"Montanz;c-2197385" wrote:
This episode is the best thing to happen to Star Wars in many years. They are setting things up for a big cliff hanger on tython and we don’t know which Jedi will turn up.. Luke? Ezra? When gideon shows up there, Mandos got a nice weapon to use against the dark sabers now. If you don’t really understand what’s going on with the entire Star Wars universe (understandable) you should watch the Star Wars theory breakdown videos of each episode on YouTube.

Every episode they release strengthens the storyline of the crappy sequels and makes palpatine surviving more believable and snoke being a failed clone experiment fit in the story nicely (the failed experiments from ep4 look like snoke). The last two episodes have done a really good job of building on the cloning side of Star Wars that often gets brushed aside for lightsaber action. Palpatine is behind everything the whole time, trying to create a suitable vessel for himself so that he can live forever. He’s trying to make force sensitive clones but they reject the blood. They are after Grogu for his blood and his story still has a lot of mystery surrounding it. He survived order 66 and we don’t know what happened to him during his time of “darkness”.

Some Star Wars fans don’t really know ezra / ashoka / thrawns stories and this is a good time to watch the clone wars and rebels series or get a summary of who they are from YouTube cos rumour is they will get a spin off show. Star Wars is so much more than just the original movies and if you love this game then you’ll probably find it interesting to learn more about all the characters.

No matter what they do with the mandolorian, it will never make palpatine returning any better IMO. His return ruins the ending of episode 6. They had a whole trilogy to make palpatine return believable or at least somewhat seem reasonable and they failed mainly because palpatine returning was never the plan. I think they would be best to stay clear of the sequels in this show. It’s an outlet where most fans all agree on the show being at least pretty good. They are a lot of cool avenues involving cloning and potentially dark troopers they could take that don’t involve the sequels. The moment they start using the show to tie in sequel content is when a lot fans may be turned off from the show. Just my opinion.

Yeah sure but the seeds of the first order should be starting in mando so there’s bound to be some related cross overs. I for one appreciated learning more about the cloning and the background to why it’s happening despite how hated those movies are