Maul (L) is no longer meta and has passed

"Kyno;c-1025732" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;c-1025445" wrote:

"Tatebomb;c-1025443" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;c-1025440" wrote:

"AidendeLeon;c-1025435" wrote:
Just going to leave this here. After K2 zeta I can auto zaul :)

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Junk zaul team.

I'm on a Nov 15 shard and zaul is definitely still dominate. Pretty sure the guy who posted this topic just got his little sith all geared up and zeta and wants to quiet down the nerf crowd by being a smart you know what. The swgoh.gg stats don't lie. And the fact that rex gets dominated by so many comps as well.

"Ig88isboss;c-1025354" wrote:
What an arrogant attitude to think your shard=the standard for everyone's shard.

Just gonna leave this here.

"The swgoh stats don't lie"

Statistics lie 60% of the time, all the time.

"Figures lie, liars figure." ;)

"M9silent;c-1025424" wrote:
@WompWompRat Thanks for the blessing hahahahahaha. I love my zQGJ Jedi team. Zoda as well. GK, Anakin and Ezra.

It's incredibly fun to use, and I hate dodge. Never used Old Ben or Dooku, won't use Zaul. Love using Jedi. The path of the Jedi is difficult, but rewarding.

No, you don't hate dodge. Foresight is nothing else than 100% dodge, bringing this tactics to a new extreme. Sith dodge is mild compared to Jedi, really.

"Ig88isboss;c-1025440" wrote:

"AidendeLeon;c-1025435" wrote:
Just going to leave this here. After K2 zeta I can auto zaul :)

https://s27.postimg.org/s53eltwv3/IMG_0645.png

https://s27.postimg.org/tlex3yzrz/IMG_0649.png

Junk zaul team.

I'm on a Nov 15 shard and zaul is definitely still dominate. Pretty sure the guy who posted this topic just got his little sith all geared up and zeta and wants to quiet down the nerf crowd by being a smart you know what. The swgoh.gg stats don't lie. And the fact that rex gets dominated by so many comps as well.

Let's not make assumptions about me, you don't know me.

@scuba is a respected member of the community, and he is on my shard. If you don't believe me, ask him.

"Ig88isboss;c-1025354" wrote:
What an arrogant attitude to think your shard=the standard for everyone's shard. Swgoh.gg shows clearly that zaul is still meta by a land slide. The only reason these Rex teams are so prevelant is to counter the meta. Rex teams get smashed with fo, res,Jedi and zader teams. Far from meta. They just hide themselves in a sea of zauls.

This is very accurate. Pretty much everyone in my guild who has Maul, also has Rex. They just put the leader of their choice in for the team they are facing. They only run Rex because of Maul, but if Maul wasn't there, most would be running something entirely different.

"Olga;c-1025746" wrote:
Zaul is still meta. Those Rex teams exist as a hard counter to Zaul.

Maul is only meta as a counter to wiggs, who were only meta as a counter to old ben/dooku, who were only meta because they were a counter to whatever team was meta at that point in time. In conclusion, all the meta teams arent really meta, they're merily counters.

Rex Leads are just as weak as Zaul leads on defense vs other Zaul and Rex teams.

Little secret to counter Rex leads...
Drop Palpatine and make your Zaul the quickest on your team and faster than enemy Rex's.

Maul Daze - Nihilus Force Drain
Then throw in DT to increase another cooldown

"Smithie;c-1025784" wrote:
Rex Leads are just as weak as Zaul leads on defense vs other Zaul and Rex teams.

Little secret to counter Rex leads...
Drop Palpatine and make your Zaul the quickest on your team and faster than enemy Rex's.

Maul Daze - Nihilus Force Drain
Then throw in DT to increase another cooldown

Wow, so that's why people run DT :) thx for the tip! Maybe I should start working on DT....

"Olga;c-1025746" wrote:
Zaul is still meta. Those Rex teams exist as a hard counter to Zaul.

I'm not so sure about the ultimate meta being 1 team; I'm running a team that can beat both Rex and maul led teams. It has it's own weakness, but 1st, no one prevails on Def but drops less than maul, 2nd, every team is probably designed by CG with a counter in mind. I think the 'meta' will be a group of complementary squads that you swap in and out depending on who you face.

"Olga;c-1025788" wrote:

"leef;c-1025771" wrote:

"Olga;c-1025746" wrote:
Zaul is still meta. Those Rex teams exist as a hard counter to Zaul.

Maul is only meta as a counter to wiggs, who were only meta as a counter to old ben/dooku, who were only meta because they were a counter to whatever team was meta at that point in time. In conclusion, all the meta teams arent really meta, they're merily counters.

Um...... no.

So how do you explain a leaderboard, previously filled with maul leads, now dominated by rex teams? (other than a the counter to a previous meta becomming the new meta) It's no longer an effective counter to maul leads because there are no more maul leads.

"Olga;c-1025795" wrote:

"ImYourHuckleberry;c-1025792" wrote:

"Olga;c-1025746" wrote:
Zaul is still meta. Those Rex teams exist as a hard counter to Zaul.

I'm not so sure about the ultimate meta being 1 team; I'm running a team that can beat both Rex and maul led teams. It has it's own weakness, but 1st, no one prevails on Def but drops less than maul, 2nd, every team is probably designed by CG with a counter in mind. I think the 'meta' will be a group of complementary squads that you swap in and out depending on who you face.

Sure, Maul and Rex are both meta.

Are you certain there aren't more squads that can't be added to maul and Rex? Rock, Paper, scissors? So you have your rock and paper, but whose your scissors? Just thinking out loud, and not following the common idea that the ultimate meta is so limited.