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- pieeater4205 years agoSeasoned Hotshot
"0Nox0;c-2318036" wrote:
BEST UPDATE EVER! I hate squad arena so much.
Squad arena is a hour of my life i'll never have to waste again fighting mirror matches everyday.
Now we get to actually play the game and get rewarded for it!
My only regret is they didn't throw Fleet arena in with this update. Why do we need to waste endless 10 minute intervals of our lives fighting mirror matches endlessly every day?
A hour of your life huh while now u will spend 24hrs checking in to see if ur opponent has attacked yet so u can finally attack. An dont say u don’t wait,99% of players try wait out the other cause there is a advantage to attacking last so u can see if u need to underman a battle or not risk it an just full squad it. An yes im sure ur gonna say you underman all battles an yes if a team is easily undermanned then ur gonna do it but other teams u may not risk it but by attacking last u can change ur approach up so tht u can beat their score with least amount of risk. So therefore u will now spend more than a hour doing gac cuz 11-15 teams with average of 3-4mins per battle not counting scouting time u will easily go over your hour u spent in arena - SiuanPamic5 years agoRising Traveler
"ShaggyB;c-2318183" wrote:
"SiuanPamic;c-2318175" wrote:
"ShaggyB;c-2318167" wrote:
"SiuanPamic;c-2318146" wrote:
"MasterSeedy;c-2318141" wrote:
@SiuanPamicI think skill is more important than wallet and I’m not FTP
What are you even talking about? No one mentioned wallets (or even money) except you.
The only people who stand to lose daily crystals are the ones who have no skill.
So false its laughable.
Again, new players who get there first gl... heck maybe they whaled on it and got GL kenobi and CAT.
They can now get 500 from squad arena as they can beat luke, kylo, see, rey and lv.
But they only have the 1 gl team thats designed to get them that 500.... in gac, they wont have the gp or the depth of roster to get 500 a day will they.
If they faced me for example, id set my gl teams down and theyd be able to take 1.... maybe.... and then id walk over their low gp roster.
So CG wont put them in where i am, as thats not fair to their gp.... but if they only have the one gl team and it can get 1st in arena, it wont get them to kyber tiers and the 500 a day payouts
Chasing the top teams with the wallet and outperforming in SA with the best of the best is not false. Not to mention the people who regulate SA for themselves or friends. This change removes that ability.
So you dont like the shard chats on discord... that doesnt mean that the scenario i listed isnt true.
I see a guy climb every day with only gl kenobi, cat, gas, ahsoka and general kenobi.... and thats his/her only gl.
That person has skill to win those battles, has either whaled or maybe did it f2p (dont know them personally) and this change will slap them in the face and take their 500 crystal payout in favor of giving them a lower gp ranking in gac, where they will not be climbing to kyber as they lack the rest of the gl and roster depth needed.
They will be losing a large amount of crystals.... so yes your ststement is false. They have skill, they have a solid payout of crustals and they now are doomed
Possibly. I believe they are a minority though. I agree you’re statement has validity, but you cannot say I’m completely wrong. There are plenty of people holding crystals in SA hostage. - ScoundrelRui5 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Pieeater420;c-2318188" wrote:
"0Nox0;c-2318036" wrote:
BEST UPDATE EVER! I hate squad arena so much.
Squad arena is a hour of my life i'll never have to waste again fighting mirror matches everyday.
Now we get to actually play the game and get rewarded for it!
My only regret is they didn't throw Fleet arena in with this update. Why do we need to waste endless 10 minute intervals of our lives fighting mirror matches endlessly every day?
A hour of your life huh while now u will spend 24hrs checking in to see if ur opponent has attacked yet so u can finally attack. An dont say u don’t wait,99% of players try wait out the other cause there is a advantage to attacking last so u can see if u need to underman a battle or not risk it an just full squad it. An yes im sure ur gonna say you underman all battles an yes if a team is easily undermanned then ur gonna do it but other teams u may not risk it but by attacking last u can change ur approach up so tht u can beat their score with least amount of risk. So therefore u will now spend more than a hour doing gac cuz 11-15 teams with average of 3-4mins per battle not counting scouting time u will easily go over your hour u spent in arena
Count me amongst the 1% then, I don't care if my opponent has attacked me yet - ccmoose5 years agoSeasoned Ace
"MasterSeedy;c-2318138" wrote:
@Ragnarok_COTFSince forever ago, if your opponent doesn't set a team in a slot, the attacker gets max banners, as if they had cleared with a perfect solo. By all means, if we match up, don't set any defenses XD
You're ignoring the fact that "since forever ago" doesn't matter anymore: they changed how you earn banners, and the explanation says nothing about empty territories.
Now... maybe they're going to continue to use the system you like and they just utterly, completely failed to mention that when they were very specifically writing out how people are going to be earning banners in the new system. But maybe they accurately described the new system and you're just not paying attention.
And, of course, they never have bugs, so they certainly couldn't intend to use the old system but then mess it up in coding so that it looks like it's operating according to the RAW but then because it's a change people scream it's not WAI and then there's 3 weeks of CG trying to figure out which system they even want to use and once they figure that out they put the bug on the list to be fixed in 12 to 18 months, because only bugs which benefit players get fixed immediately.
I mean, that couldn't happen, could it? Not with CG, surely?
If I were you, I wouldn't be expressing so much confidence that everything is going to work out well.
They also didn't say that ships still have 3 out front and a max of 4 reinforcements. Shall I assume that I'd no longer the case?
Even if this was an oversight on their part, it's been brought up here many times and they already have a system in place to deal with it.
Please "ScoundrelRui;c-2318187" wrote:
"LordDirt;c-2318173" wrote:
"Mephisto_style;c-2318169" wrote:
"LordDirt;c-2318075" wrote:
Nope, they are pushing everyone to play a game mode most dont care for. Will see if it blows up in their face or not.
You have presented no evidence of that and presupposed CG hasn't made and evidence-based decision to the contrary.
Guess we can take a poll but as you can see by all the angry people in here we know which way it will lean.
Genuine question, why don't you like GAC?
At my level (5.6mil, one GL and working on a second), I find I'm matched up pretty well, I've won and lost some matches by less than 10.
Let me know how you like it when you have 6 gl and your opponent has 6 gl.
If you put your 6 on defense and they put all 6 of theirs on D.... you wont be beating them with anything else as cg nerfed all the good counters.
Comes down to beating the non gl teams, and you wont be taking a zone and moving to the next one.
No fun to be had.
8.2 mil gp.
Not worth my time in its current state. Changes while sounding nice dont really change the underlining problem with it at higher gp.- It looks like if you currently rank high in Squad Arena without a broad roster, you're going to take a crystal hit ... and that might even be tough for many folks that get top in Squad Arena to keep their crystal rewards since the new GAC crystal rewards are heavily geared towards wins (which is fine, in general).
If you're lower in Squad Arena (I hover around top 50), I see a potential opportunity to get more crystals. However, this does come at a cost ... a time cost ... regardless of whether you like these events or not.
I can get top 50 in my squad by playing 2-4 battles ... in the new GAC, I'm now going to start off with 15 battles every other day (approx) and maybe 11 if I don't stay in Kyber (where I'll start) ... and I have to put in more effort on identifying defenses and selecting my teams, and I'll have more battles to play. Having just started playing GAC again after not playing it for several months, I definitely spend more time in GAC than squad arena (and I think most people do/would).
My fear is that the biggest down side to these new GAC changes is that we need to play GAC if we want to keep our crystal currency flowing ... before I could punt on a whole GAC event if I didn't have enough time ... right now, for example, there are times I don't always get in my 2-4 Squad Arena battles because of RL.
So, when you add in GAC (for crystals), Conquest (for new toons; and I don't max crate Conquest) and TB/expanded TW ... I don't know where I'll find the time to play all of these events ... especially when they're all running at one time ... this is going to be a very big time sink. I know some folks have that kind of time ... but there are also a number of us that don't.
To me, the time sink is becoming the bigger issue regardless of my thoughts on the game modes (although, not liking many of the changes to Conquest, expanded TW and now GAC will make finding the time even more challenging).
I would say, since we're going this route in GAC, please add a SIM button to Conquest where for the same crystals we spent last Conquest, we can get the same rewards without having to play the event ... at least the relieves part of the time sink. - LordDirt5 years agoSeasoned Ace
"ScoundrelRui;c-2318187" wrote:
"LordDirt;c-2318173" wrote:
"Mephisto_style;c-2318169" wrote:
"LordDirt;c-2318075" wrote:
Nope, they are pushing everyone to play a game mode most dont care for. Will see if it blows up in their face or not.
You have presented no evidence of that and presupposed CG hasn't made and evidence-based decision to the contrary.
Guess we can take a poll but as you can see by all the angry people in here we know which way it will lean.
Genuine question, why don't you like GAC?
At my level (5.6mil, one GL and working on a second), I find I'm matched up pretty well, I've won and lost some matches by less than 10.
I just find it a bore. Been playing since the beginning, have 8 million GP, all GLs but just cant be bothered by GA. I like all the other game modes but I just set my GLs , three up top and three down below and maybe attack once or twice and I am done. Just boring to me. - AbC4932a17667005 years agoSeasoned Veteran
"Spacer;c-2318189" wrote:
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The way I see it, this along with the nerf seems like a great way to set the groundwork for introducing an upgrade to the existing HDB bundle, with relic ready toons that will allow you to compete in the higher tiers of GAC. Time will tell if these changes are enough to make me quit the game, but it's definitely going to diminish my experience in the long term.
All for the amazing low price of 999.99 ?? - ScoundrelRui5 years agoSeasoned Ace
"ShaggyB;c-2318195" wrote:
"ScoundrelRui;c-2318187" wrote:
"LordDirt;c-2318173" wrote:
"Mephisto_style;c-2318169" wrote:
"LordDirt;c-2318075" wrote:
Nope, they are pushing everyone to play a game mode most dont care for. Will see if it blows up in their face or not.
You have presented no evidence of that and presupposed CG hasn't made and evidence-based decision to the contrary.
Guess we can take a poll but as you can see by all the angry people in here we know which way it will lean.
Genuine question, why don't you like GAC?
At my level (5.6mil, one GL and working on a second), I find I'm matched up pretty well, I've won and lost some matches by less than 10.
Let me know how you like it when you have 6 gl and your opponent has 6 gl.
If you put your 6 on defense and they put all 6 of theirs on D.... you wont be beating them with anything else as cg nerfed all the good counters.
Comes down to beating the non gl teams, and you wont be taking a zone and moving to the next one.
No fun to be had.
8.2 mil gp.
Not worth my time in its current state. Changes while sounding nice dont really change the underlining problem with it at higher gp.
With the nerfs, that's exactly the same choice that everyone with GL's has, set them on defence and risk not clearing if they also set theirs or use them in attack and have fun. "SiuanPamic;c-2318191" wrote:
"ShaggyB;c-2318183" wrote:
"SiuanPamic;c-2318175" wrote:
"ShaggyB;c-2318167" wrote:
"SiuanPamic;c-2318146" wrote:
"MasterSeedy;c-2318141" wrote:
@SiuanPamicI think skill is more important than wallet and I’m not FTP
What are you even talking about? No one mentioned wallets (or even money) except you.
The only people who stand to lose daily crystals are the ones who have no skill.
So false its laughable.
Again, new players who get there first gl... heck maybe they whaled on it and got GL kenobi and CAT.
They can now get 500 from squad arena as they can beat luke, kylo, see, rey and lv.
But they only have the 1 gl team thats designed to get them that 500.... in gac, they wont have the gp or the depth of roster to get 500 a day will they.
If they faced me for example, id set my gl teams down and theyd be able to take 1.... maybe.... and then id walk over their low gp roster.
So CG wont put them in where i am, as thats not fair to their gp.... but if they only have the one gl team and it can get 1st in arena, it wont get them to kyber tiers and the 500 a day payouts
Chasing the top teams with the wallet and outperforming in SA with the best of the best is not false. Not to mention the people who regulate SA for themselves or friends. This change removes that ability.
So you dont like the shard chats on discord... that doesnt mean that the scenario i listed isnt true.
I see a guy climb every day with only gl kenobi, cat, gas, ahsoka and general kenobi.... and thats his/her only gl.
That person has skill to win those battles, has either whaled or maybe did it f2p (dont know them personally) and this change will slap them in the face and take their 500 crystal payout in favor of giving them a lower gp ranking in gac, where they will not be climbing to kyber as they lack the rest of the gl and roster depth needed.
They will be losing a large amount of crystals.... so yes your ststement is false. They have skill, they have a solid payout of crustals and they now are doomed
Possibly. I believe they are a minority though. I agree you’re statement has validity, but you cannot say I’m completely wrong. There are plenty of people holding crystals in SA hostage.
But thats not what you said.
You said:"SiuanPamic;c-2318146" wrote:
The only people who stand to lose daily crystals are the ones who have no skill.
And thats false.
We even have a person up there saying they fall into the example i stated. They have skill but the gp and lack of all the gl will put them in position to get much less crystals than currently.
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