Merrin S1 locked behind g12?

"Jacgul;c-2414889" wrote:


Which makes it a time wall. Do you think that most players are generating, free to play, enough crystals to reasonably be able to 7 star a new character?? She isn't even in shipments yet. What an utterly ridiculous statement.

Still not a paywall though is it, in fact time wall isn’t even accurate. Patience wall would be more appropriate given that most players could earn the crystals needed, they just tend not to hoard them to the levels needed.

"Jacgul;c-2414889" wrote:

"TVF;c-2414802" wrote:

"Jacgul;c-2414797" wrote:

"TVF;c-2414795" wrote:
It's still not a paywall, not even a limited-time paywall.

So how exactly, without paying or waiting, does one get it then?

With crystals you saved up.

Which makes it a time wall. Do you think that most players are generating, free to play, enough crystals to reasonably be able to 7 star a new character?? She isn't even in shipments yet. What an utterly ridiculous statement.

Every new character has "pay" or "time" wall. You can't get all new shines at full for free just after they where added. You either pay real money, or crystals you hoarded or wait for it to be farmable.
That is how this game works and has always been working.

"CrispyFett;c-2414818" wrote:

"BobaFettish86;c-2414807" wrote:

"TVF;c-2414802" wrote:

"Jacgul;c-2414797" wrote:

"TVF;c-2414795" wrote:
It's still not a paywall, not even a limited-time paywall.

So how exactly, without paying or waiting, does one get it then?

With crystals you saved up.

I'm curious, how many people would have crystals saved up to 7* a character they didn't know they had to 7* to fully unlock her basic kit? Yes, she is needed Ipeople going after Journey Cal, but I imagine a lot of other folks would like her in their NS teams.

Its a resource management game. I generally keep a stockpile of around 40,000 to 50,000 crystals in case I need them. Once I get to 50,000 I'll generally spend down to 40,000 and then replenish. I think alot of people do this in varying amounts. Its a choice- instead of stockpiling crystals I could choose to always spend them right away. or wait and save them in case I want to get something like Merrin immediately (which I dont). Same goes for Gear, relic mats, etc. Thats why its a resource management game

50,000 is only enough to unlock one 7* character if you're lucky enough to get a couple of very high pulls. It's over 60,000 crystals for one character if you average 7 shards a pull.

I don't think it's as big a deal as it is being made to be since realistically characters that aren't relic'd aren't really being used for much. CG pretty much made R3-R5 the standard for the game at this point. G12 Merrin isn't going to do much, let alone G11 or lower.

So when you unlock Survivor Cal next year, let us know.

So, almost every character has at least one if not more of their abilities locked behind a required gear level. I don't see what people are so upset about. You can still use the character at 3* - you just can't use her to her full potential. The same is true of literally every character in the game that unlocks at 5* or less. This is the first time that an ability requires G12 to activate - if you weren't planning to take her to relics then chances are slim that you'd ever have to worry about her anyway. Total non-issue. I don't get the outrage.

"Ravens1113;c-2414912" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2414908" wrote:
So, almost every character has at least one if not more of their abilities locked behind a required gear level. I don't see what people are so upset about. You can still use the character at 3* - you just can't use her to her full potential. The same is true of literally every character in the game that unlocks at 5* or less. This is the first time that an ability requires G12 to activate - if you weren't planning to take her to relics then chances are slim that you'd ever have to worry about her anyway. Total non-issue. I don't get the outrage.

For me it’s the G12 part because to get her full potential it’s now locked behind getting her to 7*. Yes it’s been done before at varying levels but never as high as G12. My worry is it being the starting point for a precedent to be set that they start to gate abilities behind even higher relic levels. What’s to stop them from putting an ability locked behind R5?

Just like in the past as they crept up the reqs for legendaries from stars, to power level then hard relic requirements.

Nothing stops them from doing that. Just like before Merrin, when nothing was stopping them from doing that. The sky isn’t falling. This isn’t a legal system, there’s no stare decisis; no requirement that this must be the way going forward.

"yolkywareagle;c-2414924" wrote:
The way i look at this is that CG doesn’t want newcomers. g12 is hard when you first start, and you are struggling to get to gear 5. i remember unlocking boba fett for the first time and under his contract i saw “unlocks at gear level VIII.” I thought: hell naw. i’m never gonna get there. so if i were new and saw that gear unlocks at g12 i would freak out and think this game is pay to play only and there is no way to get anywhere.

And yet we have toons locked behind r8 and a ship gated behind r9. CG have always ramped up the gating of toons. Hell, conquest toons are effectively gated behind 4m GP. This is nothing new and I don’t see why it’s any worse than what they’ve done before.

I can't think of any characters that I use these days at low stars.. As others have said, late game viability is at relics now.

I can't get too exercised about. She looks good though.

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2414927" wrote:

"yolkywareagle;c-2414924" wrote:
The way i look at this is that CG doesn’t want newcomers. g12 is hard when you first start, and you are struggling to get to gear 5. i remember unlocking boba fett for the first time and under his contract i saw “unlocks at gear level VIII.” I thought: hell naw. i’m never gonna get there. so if i were new and saw that gear unlocks at g12 i would freak out and think this game is pay to play only and there is no way to get anywhere.

And yet we have toons locked behind r8 and a ship gated behind r9. CG have always ramped up the gating of toons. Hell, conquest toons are effectively gated behind 4m GP. This is nothing new and I don’t see why it’s any worse than what they’ve done before.

True.

DCs gated behind relics is another example.

"yolkywareagle;c-2414924" wrote:
The way i look at this is that CG doesn’t want newcomers. g12 is hard when you first start, and you are struggling to get to gear 5. i remember unlocking boba fett for the first time and under his contract i saw “unlocks at gear level VIII.” I thought: hell naw. i’m never gonna get there. so if i were new and saw that gear unlocks at g12 i would freak out and think this game is pay to play only and there is no way to get anywhere.

In a era where you have double drop on old characters shards and gear under g12, using your limited resources as a newcomer in order to gear the new stuff who doesn’t profit from accelerated farming and needs kyros, the only pre g12 gear that doesn’t get double drop, is not a wise decision.

"yolkywareagle;c-2414940" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2414939" wrote:

"yolkywareagle;c-2414924" wrote:
The way i look at this is that CG doesn’t want newcomers. g12 is hard when you first start, and you are struggling to get to gear 5. i remember unlocking boba fett for the first time and under his contract i saw “unlocks at gear level VIII.” I thought: hell naw. i’m never gonna get there. so if i were new and saw that gear unlocks at g12 i would freak out and think this game is pay to play only and there is no way to get anywhere.

In a era where you have double drop on old characters shards and gear under g12, using your limited resources as a newcomer in order to gear the new stuff who doesn’t profit from accelerated farming and needs kyros, the only pre g12 gear that doesn’t get double drop, is not a wise decision.

That is true, but if i joined the game a week ago and saw that i could get a free 3* character, which is higher than the 1-2* characters that they give you to start, i would be all for it. most people don’t know what they are getting into, they prob don’t realize the accelerated shards on others compared to merrin, and may not know about the gear crunch.

If you joined a week ago you probably won't be able to get her to high gear anyway. So for you both g12, and g11 will be equally distant.
And you don't have any other NS either
You will be just using a mix off characters you get and in there she will be absolutely all right even without 1 ability that is synergies with NS you don't have...

And then you will probably learn how things are working