With the increase in number of characters we will require more mods which will require more inventory space for our mods. Farming mods is a never ending task but every time I do they start going to my inbox now. I also can’t use mod loadouts because the unequipped mods have nowhere to go. Lack of mod inventory is interfering with doing other functions in the game and needs immediate attention. If we had an inventory counter (# of mods/max # of mods) it would ease the issue a little but the solution is larger inventory. Eventually our mods will become permanent fixtures if we continue to get new characters without a larger inventory.

You just don't need that many spare mods, it doesn't count the ones you have applied, so there's no reason for you to have hundreds left over (the limit is apparently 1000). If they aren't any good, sell them, if they are, apply them.

"TVF;c-2012004" wrote:"Woodroward;c-2011993" wrote:You are farming way too many modsThere is no such thing as farming too many mods. Farming mods is a 2 step process:1. farm mods2. go through and decide what's goodIf you never get to step 2, you are farming too many mods.

Can’t farm too many mods....I agree with @TVF there. You do have to stop farming at some point though so you can slice the ones with potential. If you’re sitting on 500 in mod inventory that you feel have potential but are trying to farm more instead of farming slicing material then you are doing things wrong. Step 1: Farm modsStep 2: Sell the useless ones. (Less than 5 dot, Right side mods with defense primaries, etc.)Step 3: Level mods to see secondaries.Step 4: Sell the ones that don’t hit speed. Step 5: Slice modsStep 6: Sell the ones that don’t hit speed.Rinse and repeat.

Shots fired lol. Very subtle though, I gotta hand it to you for that.I believe many people will read your advice the way I interpreted it and if they do it is bad advice. And you put a TL;DR in which highlighted it.

"Woodroward;c-2012049" wrote:"CamaroAMF;c-2012040" wrote:Can’t farm too many mods....I agree with @TVF there. You do have to stop farming at some point though so you can slice the ones with potential. If you’re sitting on 500 in mod inventory that you feel have potential but are trying to farm more instead of farming slicing material then you are doing things wrong. Step 1: Farm modsStep 2: Sell the useless ones. (Less than 5 dot, Right side mods with defense primaries, etc.)Step 3: Level mods to see secondaries.Step 4: Sell the ones that don’t hit speed. Step 5: Slice modsStep 6: Sell the ones that don’t hit speed.Rinse and repeat. Sure, it may seem like saying you're farming too many mods is advice to stop farming mods, but really it is advice to work on mods other ways. Personally I dislike the assertion that it is impossible to farm too many mods because I believe that advice tells people they never have to stop farming mods for anything, which is assuredly untrue. And people with short attention spans will almost certainly take it that way.It may be more clear to someone looking for advice to say this: "CamaroAMF;c-2012040" wrote:Can’t farm too many mods....I agree with @TVF there. You do have to stop farming at some point though so you can slice the ones with potential. If you’re sitting on 500 in mod inventory that you feel have potential but are trying to farm more instead of farming slicing material then you are doing things wrong. Step 1: Farm modsStep 2: Sell the useless ones. (Less than 5 dot, Right side mods with defense primaries, etc.)Step 3: Level mods to see secondaries.Step 4: Sell the ones that don’t hit speed. Step 5: Slice modsStep 6: Sell the ones that don’t hit speed.Rinse and repeat. instead of having a different answer that means that but doesn't say that. makes it easier for the questioner to know what you mean, not what you say

More mod inventory space required

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CCyrilS
6 years ago
"leef;c-2012836" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2012834" wrote:
"leef;c-2012826" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012816" wrote:
"leef;c-2012815" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012730" wrote:
"leef;c-2012563" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012542" wrote:
"leef;c-2012320" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012294" wrote:
"Fanatic;c-2012194" wrote:
GAC matchmaking only counts your top X toons, which is the minimum number of toons needed to fill a full 5 man defense and make a single 5 man attack against each enemy

See I'm wondering why everyone says this is the case. I have never seen a dev post to clarify it. GA says it is based on maximum number of squads allowed to be deployed.

Defense has a maximum number of squads, Offense does not. You could deploy a good chunk of your roster on offense or none at all.

To me the description sounds like it only takes account the number of characters needed to set a full defense since only defense has a "maximum number of squads".

Yet most people double that number inexplicably.

Is there a source on this somewhere I missed?

as far as i know they never specified how many toons, but i do believe they said it's based on the amount of def slots, not on how many squads allowed to be deployed.
Doubling seems the most obvious and the numbers work out from what i've seen, atleast they did with squad only.

See this is the only thing I've ever seen that says anything about matchmaking and it's in GA:

All it mentions is the number of squads you are allowed to deploy and you are only allowed a certain number of squads on defense.

I don't know, I believe it only uses what you deploy on defense and everyone is overthinking this and will continue to do so until I see a source that contradicts that.

Did you run the numbers during the squad only GACs, or are you just basing your opinion on the wording?
To me only using the top (def slots * 5) for matchmaking seems unlikely for a couple of reasons.

You're using atleast double the toons if you clear your opponents defence.
Only using the top40 would leaves too much room for mismatches.
The reason for the change is matchmaking was to decrease the influence "fluff" GP on matchmaking. Only using the top40 for matchmaking takes more than just the fluff out of the equation.
The numbers work out with top (def slots * 5 * 2).

With fleet included it's anyone's guess how that works. Thusfar i seem to be less closely matched than with squad only, but maybe relic progresssion is to blame for that. Fortunately for me it's usually in my favour.

Didn't run any numbers, not going to run any numbers. Going to go off of what was said. And what was said implies offense doesn't matter.

It doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter. I'd actually argue that it implies the exact opposite.
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to use based on the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event.
as opposed to:
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to deploy in this event.
that is assuming deployed means placed on defense.

No, it's recognizing the fact that ONLY defense has an "allowed number of squads", nothing to do with the word deployed in the logic.

I'm sorry, i don't understand what you're trying to say in relation to my comment.

He's saying he thinks it's defense based on the fact that it's the only side that has a finite number of units. As opposed to basing it on an assumption of what deployed means.

You can't reach that conclusion without also concluding "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.

Personally I don't see the word deployed as being specific to defense. Nothing about the word's general meaning implies it.
emvedebe
6 years ago
"CCyrilS;c-2012841" wrote:
"leef;c-2012836" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2012834" wrote:
"leef;c-2012826" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012816" wrote:
"leef;c-2012815" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012730" wrote:
"leef;c-2012563" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012542" wrote:
"leef;c-2012320" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012294" wrote:
"Fanatic;c-2012194" wrote:
GAC matchmaking only counts your top X toons, which is the minimum number of toons needed to fill a full 5 man defense and make a single 5 man attack against each enemy

See I'm wondering why everyone says this is the case. I have never seen a dev post to clarify it. GA says it is based on maximum number of squads allowed to be deployed.

Defense has a maximum number of squads, Offense does not. You could deploy a good chunk of your roster on offense or none at all.

To me the description sounds like it only takes account the number of characters needed to set a full defense since only defense has a "maximum number of squads".

Yet most people double that number inexplicably.

Is there a source on this somewhere I missed?

as far as i know they never specified how many toons, but i do believe they said it's based on the amount of def slots, not on how many squads allowed to be deployed.
Doubling seems the most obvious and the numbers work out from what i've seen, atleast they did with squad only.

See this is the only thing I've ever seen that says anything about matchmaking and it's in GA:

All it mentions is the number of squads you are allowed to deploy and you are only allowed a certain number of squads on defense.

I don't know, I believe it only uses what you deploy on defense and everyone is overthinking this and will continue to do so until I see a source that contradicts that.

Did you run the numbers during the squad only GACs, or are you just basing your opinion on the wording?
To me only using the top (def slots * 5) for matchmaking seems unlikely for a couple of reasons.

You're using atleast double the toons if you clear your opponents defence.
Only using the top40 would leaves too much room for mismatches.
The reason for the change is matchmaking was to decrease the influence "fluff" GP on matchmaking. Only using the top40 for matchmaking takes more than just the fluff out of the equation.
The numbers work out with top (def slots * 5 * 2).

With fleet included it's anyone's guess how that works. Thusfar i seem to be less closely matched than with squad only, but maybe relic progresssion is to blame for that. Fortunately for me it's usually in my favour.

Didn't run any numbers, not going to run any numbers. Going to go off of what was said. And what was said implies offense doesn't matter.

It doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter. I'd actually argue that it implies the exact opposite.
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to use based on the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event.
as opposed to:
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to deploy in this event.
that is assuming deployed means placed on defense.

No, it's recognizing the fact that ONLY defense has an "allowed number of squads", nothing to do with the word deployed in the logic.

I'm sorry, i don't understand what you're trying to say in relation to my comment.

He's saying he thinks it's defense based on the fact that it's the only side that has a finite number of units. As opposed to basing it on an assumption of what deployed means.

You can't reach that conclusion without also concluding "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.

Personally I don't see the word deployed as being specific to defense. Nothing about the word's general meaning implies it.

What's your point?
I'm merely assuming it means placed on defense based on context because i'm unsure what it means. The main point i tried to make is that the text doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter for matchmaking. ( and that i think it implies the exact opposite because of the wording). Thinking it doesn't is just as much speculation as thinking it does because the wording isn't conclusive. That is unless you conclude "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.
CCyrilS
6 years ago
"leef;c-2012856" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2012841" wrote:
"leef;c-2012836" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2012834" wrote:
"leef;c-2012826" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012816" wrote:
"leef;c-2012815" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012730" wrote:
"leef;c-2012563" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012542" wrote:
"leef;c-2012320" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012294" wrote:
"Fanatic;c-2012194" wrote:
GAC matchmaking only counts your top X toons, which is the minimum number of toons needed to fill a full 5 man defense and make a single 5 man attack against each enemy

See I'm wondering why everyone says this is the case. I have never seen a dev post to clarify it. GA says it is based on maximum number of squads allowed to be deployed.

Defense has a maximum number of squads, Offense does not. You could deploy a good chunk of your roster on offense or none at all.

To me the description sounds like it only takes account the number of characters needed to set a full defense since only defense has a "maximum number of squads".

Yet most people double that number inexplicably.

Is there a source on this somewhere I missed?

as far as i know they never specified how many toons, but i do believe they said it's based on the amount of def slots, not on how many squads allowed to be deployed.
Doubling seems the most obvious and the numbers work out from what i've seen, atleast they did with squad only.

See this is the only thing I've ever seen that says anything about matchmaking and it's in GA:

All it mentions is the number of squads you are allowed to deploy and you are only allowed a certain number of squads on defense.

I don't know, I believe it only uses what you deploy on defense and everyone is overthinking this and will continue to do so until I see a source that contradicts that.

Did you run the numbers during the squad only GACs, or are you just basing your opinion on the wording?
To me only using the top (def slots * 5) for matchmaking seems unlikely for a couple of reasons.

You're using atleast double the toons if you clear your opponents defence.
Only using the top40 would leaves too much room for mismatches.
The reason for the change is matchmaking was to decrease the influence "fluff" GP on matchmaking. Only using the top40 for matchmaking takes more than just the fluff out of the equation.
The numbers work out with top (def slots * 5 * 2).

With fleet included it's anyone's guess how that works. Thusfar i seem to be less closely matched than with squad only, but maybe relic progresssion is to blame for that. Fortunately for me it's usually in my favour.

Didn't run any numbers, not going to run any numbers. Going to go off of what was said. And what was said implies offense doesn't matter.

It doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter. I'd actually argue that it implies the exact opposite.
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to use based on the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event.
as opposed to:
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to deploy in this event.
that is assuming deployed means placed on defense.

No, it's recognizing the fact that ONLY defense has an "allowed number of squads", nothing to do with the word deployed in the logic.

I'm sorry, i don't understand what you're trying to say in relation to my comment.

He's saying he thinks it's defense based on the fact that it's the only side that has a finite number of units. As opposed to basing it on an assumption of what deployed means.

You can't reach that conclusion without also concluding "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.

Personally I don't see the word deployed as being specific to defense. Nothing about the word's general meaning implies it.

What's your point?
I'm merely assuming it means placed on defense based on context because i'm unsure what it means. The main point i tried to make is that the text doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter for matchmaking. ( and that i think it implies the exact opposite because of the wording). Thinking it doesn't is just as much speculation as thinking it does because the wording isn't conclusive. That is unless you conclude "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.

Not really making a point. Just offered up my opinion on the use of the word deployed. I agree the wording doesn't seem to imply defense only.
almightywood
6 years ago
"leef;c-2012836" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2012834" wrote:
"leef;c-2012826" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012816" wrote:
"leef;c-2012815" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012730" wrote:
"leef;c-2012563" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012542" wrote:
"leef;c-2012320" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012294" wrote:
"Fanatic;c-2012194" wrote:
GAC matchmaking only counts your top X toons, which is the minimum number of toons needed to fill a full 5 man defense and make a single 5 man attack against each enemy

See I'm wondering why everyone says this is the case. I have never seen a dev post to clarify it. GA says it is based on maximum number of squads allowed to be deployed.

Defense has a maximum number of squads, Offense does not. You could deploy a good chunk of your roster on offense or none at all.

To me the description sounds like it only takes account the number of characters needed to set a full defense since only defense has a "maximum number of squads".

Yet most people double that number inexplicably.

Is there a source on this somewhere I missed?

as far as i know they never specified how many toons, but i do believe they said it's based on the amount of def slots, not on how many squads allowed to be deployed.
Doubling seems the most obvious and the numbers work out from what i've seen, atleast they did with squad only.

See this is the only thing I've ever seen that says anything about matchmaking and it's in GA:

All it mentions is the number of squads you are allowed to deploy and you are only allowed a certain number of squads on defense.

I don't know, I believe it only uses what you deploy on defense and everyone is overthinking this and will continue to do so until I see a source that contradicts that.

Did you run the numbers during the squad only GACs, or are you just basing your opinion on the wording?
To me only using the top (def slots * 5) for matchmaking seems unlikely for a couple of reasons.

You're using atleast double the toons if you clear your opponents defence.
Only using the top40 would leaves too much room for mismatches.
The reason for the change is matchmaking was to decrease the influence "fluff" GP on matchmaking. Only using the top40 for matchmaking takes more than just the fluff out of the equation.
The numbers work out with top (def slots * 5 * 2).

With fleet included it's anyone's guess how that works. Thusfar i seem to be less closely matched than with squad only, but maybe relic progresssion is to blame for that. Fortunately for me it's usually in my favour.

Didn't run any numbers, not going to run any numbers. Going to go off of what was said. And what was said implies offense doesn't matter.

It doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter. I'd actually argue that it implies the exact opposite.
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to use based on the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event.
as opposed to:
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to deploy in this event.
that is assuming deployed means placed on defense.

No, it's recognizing the fact that ONLY defense has an "allowed number of squads", nothing to do with the word deployed in the logic.

I'm sorry, i don't understand what you're trying to say in relation to my comment.

He's saying he thinks it's defense based on the fact that it's the only side that has a finite number of units. As opposed to basing it on an assumption of what deployed means.

You can't reach that conclusion without also concluding "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.

"number of squads allowed" is a qualifier for "deployed"

I am basing my statement on the qualifying statement, which modifies the meaning of the main statement in this instance without changing the meaning of any individual word.

The way it is phrased it more than slightly infers that the only deployed units it cares about are the ones that count towards your allowed number of squads. Not that all deployed units are defense, just that the only ones it measures are.

It is very clearly written that way.

It all hinges around the phrase "allowed number of squads". There is no allowed number of squads on offense, so saying matchmaking includes offense is pure speculation (fact, not opinion).
DaarthBrewer
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
Big discussion about GAC, I came in here to brag about how I found more mod inventory space. I leveled Rose to 50 and slapped 6 mods on her. Poof! 6 more spots for new mods!
homerjsolo
6 years ago
"Woodroward;c-2012917" wrote:
"leef;c-2012836" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2012834" wrote:
"leef;c-2012826" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012816" wrote:
"leef;c-2012815" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012730" wrote:
"leef;c-2012563" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012542" wrote:
"leef;c-2012320" wrote:
"Woodroward;c-2012294" wrote:
"Fanatic;c-2012194" wrote:
GAC matchmaking only counts your top X toons, which is the minimum number of toons needed to fill a full 5 man defense and make a single 5 man attack against each enemy

See I'm wondering why everyone says this is the case. I have never seen a dev post to clarify it. GA says it is based on maximum number of squads allowed to be deployed.

Defense has a maximum number of squads, Offense does not. You could deploy a good chunk of your roster on offense or none at all.

To me the description sounds like it only takes account the number of characters needed to set a full defense since only defense has a "maximum number of squads".

Yet most people double that number inexplicably.

Is there a source on this somewhere I missed?

as far as i know they never specified how many toons, but i do believe they said it's based on the amount of def slots, not on how many squads allowed to be deployed.
Doubling seems the most obvious and the numbers work out from what i've seen, atleast they did with squad only.

See this is the only thing I've ever seen that says anything about matchmaking and it's in GA:

All it mentions is the number of squads you are allowed to deploy and you are only allowed a certain number of squads on defense.

I don't know, I believe it only uses what you deploy on defense and everyone is overthinking this and will continue to do so until I see a source that contradicts that.

Did you run the numbers during the squad only GACs, or are you just basing your opinion on the wording?
To me only using the top (def slots * 5) for matchmaking seems unlikely for a couple of reasons.

You're using atleast double the toons if you clear your opponents defence.
Only using the top40 would leaves too much room for mismatches.
The reason for the change is matchmaking was to decrease the influence "fluff" GP on matchmaking. Only using the top40 for matchmaking takes more than just the fluff out of the equation.
The numbers work out with top (def slots * 5 * 2).

With fleet included it's anyone's guess how that works. Thusfar i seem to be less closely matched than with squad only, but maybe relic progresssion is to blame for that. Fortunately for me it's usually in my favour.

Didn't run any numbers, not going to run any numbers. Going to go off of what was said. And what was said implies offense doesn't matter.

It doesn't necessarily imply offense doesn't matter. I'd actually argue that it implies the exact opposite.
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to use based on the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event.
as opposed to:
Grand arena matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to deploy in this event.
that is assuming deployed means placed on defense.

No, it's recognizing the fact that ONLY defense has an "allowed number of squads", nothing to do with the word deployed in the logic.

I'm sorry, i don't understand what you're trying to say in relation to my comment.

He's saying he thinks it's defense based on the fact that it's the only side that has a finite number of units. As opposed to basing it on an assumption of what deployed means.

You can't reach that conclusion without also concluding "deployed" as well as "the units a player is allowed to use" means placed on defense.

"number of squads allowed" is a qualifier for "deployed"

I am basing my statement on the qualifying statement, which modifies the meaning of the main statement in this instance without changing the meaning of any individual word.

The way it is phrased it more than slightly infers that the only deployed units it cares about are the ones that count towards your allowed number of squads. Not that all deployed units are defense, just that the only ones it measures are.

It is very clearly written that way.

It all hinges around the phrase "allowed number of squads". There is no allowed number of squads on offense, so saying matchmaking includes offense is pure speculation (fact, not opinion).

You've definitely put way more effort into analyzing CG's words than they put into composing them. Try not to overthink it.
emvedebe
6 years ago
"Woodroward;c-2012917" wrote:

"number of squads allowed" is a qualifier for "deployed"

I am basing my statement on the qualifying statement, which modifies the meaning of the main statement in this instance without changing the meaning of any individual word.

The way it is phrased it more than slightly infers that the only deployed units it cares about are the ones that count towards your allowed number of squads. Not that all deployed units are defense, just that the only ones it measures are.

It is very clearly written that way.

It all hinges around the phrase "allowed number of squads". There is no allowed number of squads on offense, so saying matchmaking includes offense is pure speculation (fact, not opinion).

That's all fine and dandy, but matchmaking is based on the maximum power of the units a player is allowed to use, which in term is based on the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event.
So saying matchmaking doesn't include offense is also pure speculation as well (fact, not opinion).
Maybe "the units a player is allowed to use" and "the number of squads allowed to be deployed in this event" are the same thing, but you can't be 100% sure of that and imo it doesn't seem to be the case based on the wording for the reason i gave earlier.
For the record, i agree that it's speculation, but it's speculation either way. It's also obviously based on def slots in one way or another because they scale allong with total GP.
kello_511
6 years ago
Yup, I see a lot of debate over a statement that we probably won’t ever know the true meaning of anyway.
emvedebe
6 years ago
To reel it back in; regardless of how matchmaking works exactly, it's safe to assume you can equip mods on your bottom characters without it having an effect on GAC matchmaking whatsoever.
BeeblebroxRocks
6 years ago
We need a "Mods Counter" so you can see how many you have out of whatever the limit is - that way we can actually manage them better, and not try mod switching on chars at a timing critical moment only to be told you've reached the cap!
Seriously, how hard would it be to show 398/400 or whatever it is?!