Hey gang, just discovered something very interesting, and a quick search of the forums didn't pull up anything indicating this was a known strategy, so I figured I should bring it to the attention of other players ASAP.I just got Jango to 7 stars, and to celebrate I fiddled around with him again in the Sith Raid. My clan is on Tier VI, Phase 3 at the moment so I threw him at Traya with Boba, Zam, Cad Bane, and IG-88. I noticed something about a minute in, then retreated and restarted to confirm. Jango's leader ability prevents burning enemies from gaining bonus turn meter. As it turns out, that INCLUDES Traya at the end of a topple. So her lightsabers respawn and attack like normal after the topple, but she does not. This effectively makes it possible to DOUBLE the number of times you can topple her. Combined with the increasing crit damage for BH's, you can ramp up your damage a ton by the end of the run. I did over 9 million damage during this attempt.I don't know what characters are the absolute best for this, but IG-88 is a must since he can reduce enemy Tenacity further with critical hits once you get the contract bonus. If you have Boba on your team, you also definitely don't want to use Execute on Traya, as you'll dispel the burn. I'm thinking throwing Aurra into this team could significantly boost the overall damage since so much time is spent with Traya toppled.I highly recommend other players try this out and see if they can find an ideal BH combination for it. It seems like Jango may have just taken the mantle for best BH leader in the raid if this continues to work.

Jango leadership nerf incoming.

"Jarvind;c-1754039" wrote:Traya also gains permanent tenacity every time you kill a saber.This is where IG-88's contract bonus and Jango's Conflagration come in. 88 reduces the target's Tenacity by 10% every time he crits once you complete the contract, and Jango does the same when he uses Conflagration on Traya when she's already debuffed. Those two combined can easily counter her Tenacity bonuses. On my attempt this morning, I was still successfully applying burns through to the end of the fight, with only a couple around the middle of the fight that didn't stick. She ended up getting one turn about five topples in, but that was it until Enrage.Potency on Jango is definitely important to help guarantee the burns, but between him and 88 (not to mention the starting Tenacity reduction from his leader ability), Traya is susceptible to debuffs through pretty much the entire battle.

"Kodiak_Skywalker;c-1754551" wrote:If you're not using aurra on phase 3, that's a mistake...I think the point is that if this works consistently you could use both on separate teams.

Someone on YouTube brought up this thread that I had completely forgotten about. This got dismissed because a few people tried it and said the mechanic didn’t work on heroic. Turns out it does. I’m sorry for bumping a 9 month old thread but I wanted the OP to get some credit for actually discovering this before I did. https://youtu.be/mz33HX2cg4E

That'll work once or twice, but her stacking tenacity will likely prevent burning from sticking after a couple topples, even with Jango's lead.Still, neat trick for getting a bit of extra mileage out of the bounty hunters.

New Jango leader strategy on Sith Phase 3!

Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"CarSickShoe;c-1754374" wrote:
This is amazing. Seems like you could run:

Jango
Bossk
Greedo/Embo
88
Chewie (?) Or other BH

Since you're trashing her tenacity anyway, Zam probably works in the last slot since she'll actually be able to land detonators.
obijuanpollo
6 years ago
Curious if this works in heroic? Anyone test it out? I just dont want to get too excited if this is another Imperial Trooper gimmick, where they post amazing damage in tier 6 p3, but nothing in the big show
Kodiak_Skywalke
6 years ago
If you're not using aurra on phase 3, that's a mistake...
theswashbuckler
6 years ago
No idea if this still works on Heroic, but with Traya herself practically crippled for the entire fight, as long as the sabers don't take anyone out, it should be pretty effective. If anyone here gets a chance to try it, let us know!

I think the lineup I'll try next is Jango, 88, Bossk, Dengar, Aurra. Getting extra assists from Bossk and Dengar should help 88 reduce tenacity even further and potentially get Aurra some extra attacks during topples, and of course there's the extra offense and cooldown reduction from Bossk's specials. We'll see how it goes on my clan's next attempt.

That leaves Embo lead with Greedo, Cad Bane, Boba, and Zam for Phase 1. All but Zam are on my normal Phase 1 Embo team already, and while she's not super helpful there, I think I'd rather use Bossk with that Jango team. I'll try swapping those two out to compare damage totals though. Maybe Zam in place of Bossk against Traya will give enough thermal damage to offset some of the lost assists and cooldown reduction, especially with Dengar dropping dets as well.
DVZR
6 years ago
I'm not an expert on Heroic, but would guess Zam for p3 and Bossk for P1. Extra attacker for P3 should increase damage.
Sarcodino
6 years ago
The key would be jango, 88, boosk, aurra +1 in a team
So u can use boba L +greedo in a greedo mix team to use last stand for big dammage in a short time also xD
DarkHelmet1138
6 years ago
I'm skeptical until someone tries it on heroic. Tray's base tenacity is much higher in heroic than in t6.

I could do 3 mil in t6 with sith and all their debuffs landed pretty well. But in heroic they don't land hardly at all. Even with massive potency on vader. So that team can only do 200 to 300k.

I'm thinking this could be the same type if thing.
almightywood
6 years ago
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1755139" wrote:
I'm skeptical until someone tries it on heroic. Tray's base tenacity is much higher in heroic than in t6.

I could do 3 mil in t6 with sith and all their debuffs landed pretty well. But in heroic they don't land hardly at all. Even with massive potency on vader. So that team can only do 200 to 300k.

I'm thinking this could be the same type if thing.

IG88 removes 10% tenacity (stacking) from an enemy every time he crits them. This means that as long as he crits Traya 4 times for every combined topple/non-topple phase, her tenacity will be gradually decreasing throughout the fight. So even if it doesn't work immediately in heroic, it should work by the end of the fight (unless your 88 is really slow).
theswashbuckler
6 years ago
"VonZant;c-1755112" wrote:
I'm not an expert on Heroic, but would guess Zam for p3 and Bossk for P1. Extra attacker for P3 should increase damage.

I was initially thinking that, too, but it occurred to me that Bossk's Offense Up for the Jango team might make a bigger difference in the long run. And Bossk simply isn't as useful on Phase 1. Embo's leader Zeta grants everyone near-constant Offense Up already, and since the ideal strategy is to use basics constantly once you get the contract anyway, Bossk's taunt/frenzy/cooldown reduction doesn't serve much of a purpose.

I'll still try both Zam/Bossk placements to compare, though. Still surprised that this strategy even works, but considering I've already nearly doubled my damage compared to my Aurra-led team, I think Jango may be the ideal BH leader in P3.
Patrikmoreee
6 years ago
Dude, try it with our guild, we are part of alliance, and if this tactics is works, it's a good tactics...we have hstr in farm hut shoulsnt be problem