Nightsister Zombie Rework: Begone Paper, Hello Fat [MEGA]

If you do not like the changes that are being made, there is an easy fix for this. Find the uninstall app on your phone.

You know what I hated most in this game, farming vets. You know why I did it. The Sith Triumvirate Raid. But if RJT lost in STR for the Resistance to return to Meta, I wouldn't complain.Players should get to level up and play factions they like.

How do we even know yet that this is going to kill NS in STR. This isn't the first weak character strategy abandoned. Before you gear up your zombie or Undying Sacrifice, head over to the NS Discord server.
Maybe there is a new strategy that leverages the changes.

"Chewy88;c-1653802" wrote:
Those resources would have gone to a better faction if we knew months ago when the raid launched that this would happen.

Alright then, name a better faction than the new NS that you haven't already worked on.

"MmoProNick;c-1653313" wrote:
On behalf of the NS discord, I must ask, if a zombie with the -100% debuffs has speed up, will she still be able to take a turn?

She will still be at 0 speed and not take a turn.

"Chewy88;c-1653801" wrote:

"yohann269;c-1653798" wrote:

"Pan2218;c-1653790" wrote:

"StuffedEwok;c-1653648" wrote:

"Deedlit;c-1653060" wrote:
They should refund the gears too. Curious as to why no one mentioned how Talzin lead is **** now with the zombie nerf..

Fair enough. But first you have to return all the rewards you've gotten from using those characters.

Not even close! They have been farmed through the extenuating & exhausting grind of this game! Specifically MT any and all rewards are earned! What about the damage that JTR is able to apply, & all of the rewards from her. They nerfed her once already. This is simply not good buisness & every single thing should be returned. Roll them back to Marquee. You don't pull this garbage after a year.

the issue with Expose has been known since Finn got his zeta. They updated it and people adapted their strategy and I see plenty of 5-6 million P1 runs. The same thing is going to happen with NS. People will adapt and put up the same damage. It will just require a different strategy.

Yes that may have known that was an issue but didn’t feel it was necessary to fix until the str was launched. And the damage should have been higher saying you can to 5-6 when you did 8-10 is not a consolation it’s a slap in the face.

the players getting those 8-10 million runs pre Expose changes were replaying a lot. Smithie D said in his video that it took 10 hrs to get his run. the 5-6million runs currently are 1 try. I'm sure with multiple restarts you can get good RNG to get a higher score but to me only doing it once and getting 5 million damage is a great day.

Question @CG_TopHat

EDIT:
Nevermind.
Answering questions myself about myself

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Does Daka grant HERSELF turn meter when she is defeated and immediately revived if she is revived by Zombie's new unique? - No. Her TM mechanics specifically state when ANOTHER ALLY is defeated or revived. Shame. Would have made for some really crazy situations.

Could you please confirm again that the Zombie unique counts as TWO defeats. Per the wording of the ability, the first 2 times another Nightsister ally is defeated by an enemy attack, they are revived, recover 100% of Nightsister Zombie's Max Health and Nightsister Zombie is defeated.

If you target Daka and defeat her, is she revived BEFORE zombie is defeated and immediately revived? At the same time? How does the TM mechanic of her unique work with the new Zombie unique?

I'm guessing at the very least if you defeat Daka while still having "charges" for Zombie's unique, Daka would be revived and then immediately gain at least 70% 50% TM because she is being revived and then Zombie is being defeated and then immediately revived. So she is active during the zombie revive.

"Chewy88;c-1653802" wrote:

"SinisterSandman;c-1653800" wrote:
So you're all saying that without the cheese you would never have invested in NS at all, despite this being a completionist game? And you're angry because they restored the completionist aspect to Zombie and made the game what it was supposed to be in the first place?

So you have a g12 cup? This isn’t a completionist game it’s strategy game and a resource management game. Those resources would have gone to a better faction if we knew months ago when the raid launched that this would happen.

I invested in Jawas and Droids for HAAT. Should I know demand a refund because there are better teams now? And you don't know that NS won't be good anymore. I'm sure they will still excel in P4 of STR

"SinisterSandman;c-1653736" wrote:
I don't know why everybody seems to be so up in arms and shocked about this. Demanding refunds and whatever. It's not like we haven't known about it since July...

They didnt say anything about ruining the entire faction & as well when this raid was rolled had told us that NS is the key to beating it. So people have been grinding them for a long damned time. To have them do this. Zombie, papered or not is the key component to unlocking the powerful abilities the Zetas & some Omegas specifically need. This masks them all no matter where you use them. At the same time making her useful. So here it is...NS are no good with Zombie & No good without her. After months. So this is why people are upset. I was one of the idiots that trusted CG. I mean they took the Butler page with all of his team references for the the raids & took everything off except FO, JTR, & NS whom they told us to farm. Al anybody saying this & that about being upset should really keep it to themselves. This for feedback & CG has harshly wronged the entire community. They could take that Raid away & many would be much happier in life. Too many times & now this is too large of an investment. Funny how they are saying they protecting just those

"BubbaFett;c-1653808" wrote:

"SinisterSandman;c-1653800" wrote:
So you're all saying that without the cheese you would never have invested in NS at all, despite this being a completionist game? And you're angry because they restored the completionist aspect to Zombie and made the game what it was supposed to be in the first place?

Not everyone plays the game as a completionist.... Some.of us play it as a strategist...

I can't speak for everyone else, but personally, I am angry that a multi million dollar company can't be bothered to take the time.to.design content that works as intended the first time out of the box and have to nerf it all to protect the integrity of a raid the majority of the player base despises... Which, in turn, causes players to lose their return on investment....

On top of this, we now.have to further invest in a new ability just to make the same toon almost as good as it was before.....

But you get to strategise again. So you just kinda got a jackpot change in that regard.

"CG_TopHat;c-1653807" wrote:

"MmoProNick;c-1653313" wrote:
On behalf of the NS discord, I must ask, if a zombie with the -100% debuffs has speed up, will she still be able to take a turn?

She will still be at 0 speed and not take a turn.

Earlier you mentioned its like a fractured zombie where TM swap will prevent zombie from going either

Does this mean the 100% coinflip is not completely random but there is some algorithm that takes the speed of each toon as input for calculating turn order?