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"Numanoid;c-1655346" wrote:
"Egoprime;c-1655183" wrote:
Well, I just played arena, and few pve battles with my NS team. I can say rework is not working like you described. Zombie is just getting speed debuf from deaths. There was no sign of any speed up when she survives attack. NS team is useless now. 6 months of work on them has gone thru window.
Just to clarify, it's not speed up from an attack, it's speed up each turn she survives while taking a hit. My initial reading was also "per attack" and was up for a rude awakening in sith raid. Per attack seems to make a lot more sense if this was supposed to be about paper zombie.
U are right. I apologise. That is even worst i gues.- I love it how half the thread is pissed about how now their nightsisters suck and got nerfed, and the other half is pissed about how nightersisters got buffed and they're loosing when going against them now cuz they're so much better lol
"Ploosh;c-1655908" wrote:
I love it how half the thread is **** about how now their nightsisters suck and got nerfed, and the other half is **** about how nightersisters got buffed and they're loosing when going against them now cuz they're so much better lol
NS still fails in PvP. Time to undo the changes.- drest887 years agoRising Veteran
"Ploosh;c-1655908" wrote:
I love it how half the thread is **** about how now their nightsisters suck and got nerfed, and the other half is **** about how nightersisters got buffed and they're loosing when going against them now cuz they're so much better lol
That’s cuz the people that invested in the strictly for pve are disappointed and the people that didn’t invest in them or had a decent pvp team prior now face the risk of two revives and getting times out. All strategies that applied to the ns were turned upside down. - orparguur7 years agoNew ScoutI've had it with these reworks and nerfs. Capital Games keep reworking characters nobody wanted before, because they were crap. And they nerf good characters such as Acolyte and Zombie. I've had it. And, no I do NOT want a clones and separatist rework. I want a game with mechanics that are less RNG based, period.
- Thankfully I haven’t invested too much into nightsisters, so I’m not as affected by this change.
However, this is an extreme nerf that effects the ENTIRE nightsister faction, it does reduce the effectiveness of said faction.
It seems like the Devs don’t know what they are doing with the night sisters so Those who invested in the faction should get a full refund, not just a measly zeta on Daka. - The speed buff is useless if you have to wait for zombie's turn to get it after surviving an attack. Zombie's taunt screams "Please kill me" and more often than not, opponents will be able to kill zombie before it gets it's turn. Especially if combo attacks are involved, such as a phoenix squad, while zombie is taunting...
"Ploosh;c-1655908" wrote:
I love it how half the thread is **** about how now their nightsisters suck and got nerfed, and the other half is **** about how nightersisters got buffed and they're loosing when going against them now cuz they're so much better lol
There's a handful of people who are speculating that they will be better in pvp but that is not even the case they just made them better only vs extremely dumb vs ai in pvp that's a very small window of improvement for the elimination of p3 team and nerfing of a p4 team. In pvp just kill zombie then don't attack the zombie until zombie taunts, kill it again and its at -100 speed then you can pick apart the nightsisters because they don't have a taunt. You can successfully eliminate a g12 zombie in arena by turn 2 the arena team is no where near META despite what tophat claims.
https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/1/ rank 1 teams NS 0%
https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/10/ rank top 10 teams NS 0%
https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/100/ rank top 100 teams NS 3%
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true you have to look at the numbers. The number say its no where near META for arena. The Phase 3 team is dead now. WHICH BY THE WAY DID NOT REQUIRE A PAPERA ZOMBIE AND IF YOU HAD PAPER ZOMBIE THE P3 TEAM WAS NOT POSSIBLE
Phase 4 damage has been crippled for a g1-6 zombie, but that was the point so OK. However, People are mad because there was no reason to change anything with the P3 team or remove zombie's ability to taunt or resurrect there many many other methods that can stop paper zombie from being better than fat zombie. I'd argue fat zombie was better because it was great in P3 and you can score more than using a paper p4. PLUS the P3 team didn't use paper zombie or a loop. The characters kits all had excellent synergy as released almost a year ago when people started investing in the NS faction.
Another thing is people saying the p3 team works are claiming it works on T5 which is meaningless considering it was a functional heroic strategy since forever, its actually a old HAAT team people were using in the Sith Raid.
Oh By the way semi Paper zombie still works in P4, G7-8 seems ideal and you can get some MASSIVE scores way better than any other team is capable of doing so CG's intended goal of fixing paper zombie turns out to still allow paper zombie strategy, The only thing they fixed was killing the previous FAT Zombie strategy being used in HAAT and P3. That strategy worked exactly as described, no bugs, no loops, just good synergy.
For investing in that synergy, those players were PUNISHED while paper zombie users still can score several millions in P3. I know I use a paper zombie and it still works fine p4.- Not that it matters but Zombie rework has destroyed my ability to get decent scores in both p3 & p4
Congrats on another successful nerf and more added dislike for the total disregard to player input - Just ran my first P3 sith raid with nightsisters and I have to say the results were terrible. I was already running a gear 11 zombie (never ran the paper zombie) and was only able to score less than half of my typical damage. I wasnt cheating, I was playing the game as it was designed using toons as they were set up. Why am I being punished by this Nerf? Can you please stop insulting your player base and just come out and say that any time someone uses a viable function that gains players an advantage in this god awful raid you devs will immediately squash it.
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