Anyone else excited to see if Nihilus's lead is any good, but worried that they've spent most of their time and effort farming Crit Damage/Crit Chance mods for their Attackers? I certainly am. I've managed to buy a handful of Offense mods from Mod Shipments, when good ones show up for credits...but I certainly wouldn't be able to outfit several Attackers with Offense sets (well..not ones with good Speed secondaries, anyways).I can't even finish Tier 3 of the Offense Mods challenge...I've only got FOO at 4 stars. This makes me just a little nervous. I know his leader ability provides a 60% passive Offense boost anyways, but without Crit Damage/Crit Chance sets to round things out, its really going to be interesting trying to mod all 5 heroes for an Arena team. I suppose Health, Tenacity, and Speed sets will have their uses, but I can't imagine you're not going to want to replace all the CD sets and Attacker would usually get with Offense? I don't really know...Offense's set bonus, for being a 4-piece set, isn't as large as CD's...but I have no idea if that means its less impactful.

"HaronKhast;94429" wrote:Anyone else excited to see if Nihilus's lead is any good, but worried that they've spent most of their time and effort farming Crit Damage/Crit Chance mods for their Attackers? I certainly am. I've managed to buy a handful of Offense mods from Mod Shipments, when good ones show up for credits...but I certainly wouldn't be able to outfit several Attackers with Offense sets (well..not ones with good Speed secondaries, anyways).I can't even finish Tier 3 of the Offense Mods challenge...I've only got FOO at 4 stars. This makes me just a little nervous. I know his leader ability provides a 60% passive Offense boost anyways, but without Crit Damage/Crit Chance sets to round things out, its really going to be interesting trying to mod all 5 heroes for an Arena team. I suppose Health, Tenacity, and Speed sets will have their uses, but I can't imagine you're not going to want to replace all the CD sets and Attacker would usually get with Offense? I don't really know...Offense's set bonus, for being a 4-piece set, isn't as large as CD's...but I have no idea if that means its less impactful.You can't have nihilus. *Jedi mind trick* you'll do fine with cup, some ns's, and chewy! Our shard is competitive enough as it is.

The main thing about offense mods is that unlike Critical Damage, theres no 2 piece set to back it up offensively. Critical damage is a 4 piece set and then critical chance is a 2 piece set, but theres no 2 piece set to help offense mods in the offensive category other than maybe potency, but that doesn't really directly help increase damage output. I personally feel like offense mods should've been a 2 piece set like defense mods.

"Vertigo;918037" wrote:The main thing about offense mods is that unlike Critical Damage, theres no 2 piece set to back it up offensively. Critical damage is a 4 piece set and then critical chance is a 2 piece set, but theres no 2 piece set to help offense mods in the offensive category other than maybe potency, but that doesn't really directly help increase damage output. I personally feel like offense mods should've been a 2 piece set like defense mods.For the value of Offense they actually provide, it seems like that would be more appropriate. Although, in the context of using a Nihilus lead, I feel like it might not be that big of a deal, not having a "buddy" set to go with Offense?

I wouldn't worry too much about. First and foremost, are your characters faster than the other characters is what matters most. If they're not it doesn't matter too much, so if you focus on speed you'll end-up okay.

Nihilus L will be interesting indeed, one because it seems it's going to be about surviveability. Hypothetically if the 100% health steal works like it should on top of 60% offense lead toons if even ability blocked are going to be a threat due to recovering quite a bit of health per hit. Sith trooper I think is going to be real fun to mess with and focus all protection and offense on, under zader only 30% damage boost at g10 I'm non criting for about 3-4K, with an additional 40% and focus on offense I should be able to get him to hit approx 7k ish non crit, and with 7k hits with 100% health steal and defense up and his already steallar unquie he will most Likely tank toons attacks and recover at a faster rate than what you can dish out if retribution is up. Of course this is all on paper and things don't general seem to work like we think they do.Been thinking about a few different compsNihilus LZidiousSith trooperPalpGK/Boba/ Sith assasin/ shore/DTZidious and 5th spot I will be playing around a bit

Nihilus lead and Offense mods (or lack thereof)

GloriousDon
8 years ago
"HaronKhast;94429" wrote:
Anyone else excited to see if Nihilus's lead is any good, but worried that they've spent most of their time and effort farming Crit Damage/Crit Chance mods for their Attackers? I certainly am. I've managed to buy a handful of Offense mods from Mod Shipments, when good ones show up for credits...but I certainly wouldn't be able to outfit several Attackers with Offense sets (well..not ones with good Speed secondaries, anyways).

I can't even finish Tier 3 of the Offense Mods challenge...I've only got FOO at 4 stars. This makes me just a little nervous. I know his leader ability provides a 60% passive Offense boost anyways, but without Crit Damage/Crit Chance sets to round things out, its really going to be interesting trying to mod all 5 heroes for an Arena team. I suppose Health, Tenacity, and Speed sets will have their uses, but I can't imagine you're not going to want to replace all the CD sets and Attacker would usually get with Offense? I don't really know...Offense's set bonus, for being a 4-piece set, isn't as large as CD's...but I have no idea if that means its less impactful.

You can't have nihilus. *Jedi mind trick* you'll do fine with cup, some ns's, and chewy! Our shard is competitive enough as it is.
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
The main thing about offense mods is that unlike Critical Damage, theres no 2 piece set to back it up offensively. Critical damage is a 4 piece set and then critical chance is a 2 piece set, but theres no 2 piece set to help offense mods in the offensive category other than maybe potency, but that doesn't really directly help increase damage output. I personally feel like offense mods should've been a 2 piece set like defense mods.
amsage
8 years ago
"Vertigo;918037" wrote:
The main thing about offense mods is that unlike Critical Damage, theres no 2 piece set to back it up offensively. Critical damage is a 4 piece set and then critical chance is a 2 piece set, but theres no 2 piece set to help offense mods in the offensive category other than maybe potency, but that doesn't really directly help increase damage output. I personally feel like offense mods should've been a 2 piece set like defense mods.

For the value of Offense they actually provide, it seems like that would be more appropriate. Although, in the context of using a Nihilus lead, I feel like it might not be that big of a deal, not having a "buddy" set to go with Offense?
DarthxJay
8 years ago
I wouldn't worry too much about. First and foremost, are your characters faster than the other characters is what matters most. If they're not it doesn't matter too much, so if you focus on speed you'll end-up okay.
vCx-Redemption
8 years ago
Nihilus L will be interesting indeed, one because it seems it's going to be about surviveability. Hypothetically if the 100% health steal works like it should on top of 60% offense lead toons if even ability blocked are going to be a threat due to recovering quite a bit of health per hit.

Sith trooper I think is going to be real fun to mess with and focus all protection and offense on, under zader only 30% damage boost at g10 I'm non criting for about 3-4K, with an additional 40% and focus on offense I should be able to get him to hit approx 7k ish non crit, and with 7k hits with 100% health steal and defense up and his already steallar unquie he will most Likely tank toons attacks and recover at a faster rate than what you can dish out if retribution is up.

Of course this is all on paper and things don't general seem to work like we think they do.

Been thinking about a few different comps

Nihilus L
Zidious
Sith trooper
Palp
GK/Boba/ Sith assasin/ shore/DT

Zidious and 5th spot I will be playing around a bit
Allenb60
8 years ago
I think it will be great situationally, like when you don't want to critically hit teams with Barriss and her zeta
vCx-Redemption
8 years ago
"Allenb60;918108" wrote:
I think it will be great situationally, like when you don't want to critically hit teams with Barriss and her zeta

Or Rex leads
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
"Allenb60;918108" wrote:
I think it will be great situationally, like when you don't want to critically hit teams with Barriss and her zeta

Same, but I've found that Barriss teams aren't popping up as much in my arena as they used to because Maul's Zeta is taking over and the AOE daze really slows Barriss down and EP and Sidious can stop healing pretty easily.
amsage
8 years ago
@xReDeMpx I'm definitely excited about some of the same stuff you are. Seems like the whole thing gets shut down pretty quick without a dispel, though...because anyone with half a brain is just going to bring healing immunity and shut you down pretty quick.

I am so on the fence about Savage...an AoE dispel like Rex or GK seems way easier, but it seems like a lot of folks are having good luck with him.
vCx-Redemption
8 years ago
"HaronKhast;918123" wrote:
@xReDeMpx I'm definitely excited about some of the same stuff you are. Seems like the whole thing gets shut down pretty quick without a dispel, though...because anyone with half a brain is just going to bring healing immunity and shut you down pretty quick.

I am so on the fence about Savage...an AoE dispel like Rex or GK seems way easier, but it seems like a lot of folks are having good luck with him.

Yup heal immunity will be the bane of nihilus, but will be interesting to see how long they have to keep immunity actually on your team before they are back on track reviving HP quicker than what people can deal.

Any kind of taunt for more than one turn to get rid of healing immunity will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I will have sith trooper g11 soon enough and I have almost all the needed gear for nihilus g11