I just threw CLS, Raid Han, and even Cassian with his plethora of debuffs (including heal immunity) against a Rex, Zarris, GK team and no matter how many times I healed my squad with Chirrut, or Smokescreened to make them attack Old Ben, Zarris and GK could not be killed. My suggestion comes as this: Get rid of her cleanse, make her heal against crits percentile to the damage dealt (so that it's not unfair to players that can't get toons like CLS, GK, and you don't have to use Nihilus just to counter Zarris). She's broken and I know that the comments are going to be the typical "she's not broke, you're just a terrible player" "there are plenty of counters", or whatever stupid comment you can come up with. I've legimately tried every counter to her and none of them work reliably and you can't build a team that can defend at all. The only option for an arena team right now is GK and Zarris, the other three are just what you prefer and have available. RIP the diverse meta.

"JediGhost117;d-134090" wrote:She's broken and I know that the comments are going to be the typical "she's not broke, you're just a terrible player" "there are plenty of counters", or whatever **** comment you can come up with. My comment is more.... you couldn't put this in one of the multiple other threads on the exact same topic going on right now?

"Liath;c-1275798" wrote:"JediGhost117;d-134090" wrote:She's broken and I know that the comments are going to be the typical "she's not broke, you're just a terrible player" "there are plenty of counters", or whatever **** comment you can come up with. My comment is more.... you couldn't put this in one of the multiple other threads on the exact same topic going on right now?And get lost in a mega thread that is ignored by everybody, yeah no thanks

So that its not unfair to players that can't get toons like CLS? The whole reason I'm running GK/Zarriss and putting a zeta on R2 next is because I don't have CLS... CLS and all the rebel reworks created the stage for this counter meta to flourish...If she couldn't be countered as you say the swgoh.gg meta report would reflect, but as it stands CLS is the leader for 60% of both #1 teams and 1-10 teams; only at 1-100 teams do you see CLS drop to 44%.Btw Zarriss has one good ability. CLS has three abilities with 2-3 functions each, three unique abilities with a zeta that is as good as the unique zeta on Barriss, and he's viable in raids whereas Zarriss mostly isn't.

"Broulan;c-1275802" wrote:So that its not unfair to players that can't get toons like CLS? The whole reason I'm running GK/Zarriss and putting a zeta on R2 next is because I don't have CLS... CLS and all the rebel reworks created the stage for this counter meta to flourish...If she couldn't be countered as you say the swgoh.gg meta report would reflect, but as it stands CLS is the leader for 60% of both #1 teams and 1-10 teams; only at 1-100 teams do you see CLS drop to 44%.Ok, look at your meta report again. She's not a leader so compairing her to the meta leaders right now is irrelevant.

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dukem73
8 years ago
Gk zariss team is not as much as a problem. Its good that theres a solid counter to the army of lukes
US_Underdog
8 years ago
"Darksouls2020;c-1275809" wrote:
The go counter zbariss with dn lead.

Great, we have a grand total of two squads we can run with this solution. RIP the diverse meta dream.
BryGuy2k3k
8 years ago
Rock meet paper.
xsfenrirx
8 years ago
i find this line of threads amusing. i had a gk zarriss team before CLS teams became a thing, and I actually distinctly remember getting completely wrecked by some Vader teams. So much so that i had to construct a team just to beat that team.... So it's not like gk zarriss teams are unbeatable, but it just so happens they're the anti current CLS led teams....

so why ask for a nerf? any team with DN can beat her, and so can Zader ds teams. there are options. True not a lot of options, but i'd argue there're not a lot of options to beat the CLS, raid han/leia/ATF, OB/GK, r2 + 5th rebel teams either.
US_Underdog
8 years ago
"Broulan;c-1275802" wrote:
So that its not unfair to players that can't get toons like CLS? The whole reason I'm running GK/Zarriss and putting a zeta on R2 next is because I don't have CLS... CLS and all the rebel reworks created the stage for this counter meta to flourish...

If she couldn't be countered as you say the swgoh.gg meta report would reflect, but as it stands CLS is the leader for 60% of both #1 teams and 1-10 teams; only at 1-100 teams do you see CLS drop to 44%.

Btw Zarriss has one good ability. CLS has three abilities with 2-3 functions each, three unique abilities with a zeta that is as good as the unique zeta on Barriss, and he's viable in raids whereas Zarriss mostly isn't.

Yeah, Barris is one of the top used toons in the game, only coming behind, CLS, R2, GK, Raid Han, Thrawn and Nihilus.
Fahrius
8 years ago
Destroy rex with zolo, he is squeeshy so is easy to kill even if you crit him
Buff immunity on gk, then crit her to avoid her healing thanks to crit immunity, kill her
Or crit her, dispel gk taunt. Kill her
Just annhilate her
Broulan1
8 years ago
"JediGhost117;c-1275804" wrote:
"Broulan;c-1275802" wrote:
So that its not unfair to players that can't get toons like CLS? The whole reason I'm running GK/Zarriss and putting a zeta on R2 next is because I don't have CLS... CLS and all the rebel reworks created the stage for this counter meta to flourish...

If she couldn't be countered as you say the swgoh.gg meta report would reflect, but as it stands CLS is the leader for 60% of both #1 teams and 1-10 teams; only at 1-100 teams do you see CLS drop to 44%.

Ok, look at your meta report again. She's not a leader so compairing her to the meta leaders right now is irrelevant.

General Kenobi lead, Zarriss, and R2 are the only combo that makes this in any way viable against some of the super crit-damage heavy teams out there. I assumed you were talking about the actual anti-meta squad, because unless you run GK as the lead with Zarriss and R2's zeta (on number crunch specifically, but both are probably nice) you're unlikely to outscale the damage with healing and you'll still get obliterated.

You're probably mad because someone with better mods and gear is beating you even though you have CLS, and frankly I think that's just absurd. The number of People running CLS as gear 8-9 on my server and winning is the thing that's absolutely crazy. The toon is the next iteration of power creep (and it does keep creeping...) and all the people who either got him f2p or paid for him are now whining that he's not an instant win button. Get over it!

By the way there is a way to use CLS and all those damn rebels to beat GK/Zarriss/R2 without using some sort of technique. The teams can actually just outscale the healing but you need to mod right, compose your team right, and pilot them in a reasonable manner
TYSONL2006
8 years ago
Then don't run luke and it be more diversity like before CLS came outm
US_Underdog
8 years ago
"M_L;c-1275816" wrote:
i find this line of threads amusing. i had a gk zarriss team before CLS teams became a thing, and I actually distinctly remember getting completely wrecked by some Vader teams. So much so that i had to construct a team just to beat that team.... So it's not like gk zarriss teams are unbeatable, but it just so happens they're the anti current CLS led teams....

so why ask for a nerf? any team with DN can beat her, and so can Zader ds teams. there are options. True not a lot of options, but i'd argue there're not a lot of options to beat the CLS, raid han/leia/ATF, OB/GK, r2 + 5th rebel teams either.

Again, having to make a special squad like a DN or Zader lead team to counter 1 toon is ridiculous. It's broken and that's why it needs a nerf. I'd rather have a meta fully of different toons than ones that are to counter a toons like Barris
Broulan1
8 years ago
"JediGhost117;c-1275818" wrote:
"Broulan;c-1275802" wrote:
So that its not unfair to players that can't get toons like CLS? The whole reason I'm running GK/Zarriss and putting a zeta on R2 next is because I don't have CLS... CLS and all the rebel reworks created the stage for this counter meta to flourish...

If she couldn't be countered as you say the swgoh.gg meta report would reflect, but as it stands CLS is the leader for 60% of both #1 teams and 1-10 teams; only at 1-100 teams do you see CLS drop to 44%.

Btw Zarriss has one good ability. CLS has three abilities with 2-3 functions each, three unique abilities with a zeta that is as good as the unique zeta on Barriss, and he's viable in raids whereas Zarriss mostly isn't.

Yeah, Barris is one of the top used toons in the game, only coming behind, CLS, R2, GK, Raid Han, Thrawn and Nihilus.

She is right now. You're the one just beating the dead horse of diversity but you can't see that such an old toon being viable is perhaps the most healthy thing currently in the game?