Order 66 raid is trash

Hard disagree on 066 raid. For the first time in a while I am counting down the days until the next raid. 

No request to go back to the old sim raid days from me. 

I am not sure what there is to look forward to in order66 raid, as op says it’s awful, I have a 10M roster and barely get 700k in raid, there is just not enough choice of toons that can be used and I can’t just gear up toons I have no expectations of using unless they go towards GLs or Legendarys, it’s already a real grind getting those up to scratch UNLESS you P2P, and to fill it out with new marquees is rubbish.

Again, disagree. I’m f2p and am getting 12.6M in the raid with my 13.7M GP. 

You can’t expect to do well in the raid if you’re not going to gear up the toons that are required. This is the new raid model and you should expect this to be required to do well when the next raid launches too. 

"I have a 10M roster and barely get 700k in raid"

Skill issue.

"there is just not enough choice of toons that can be used"

...because that's how I feel (translation: I should be allowed to use the GL I've had for 3 years in the raid so I can crank out a high score without a single thought or bit of effort)

"I can’t just gear up toons I have no expectations of using unless they go towards GLs or Legendarys"

DS Clones, TG, Depa -> required for JMMW
Pirate marquees -> required for GL Hondo

There are also Era Battles, conquest feats, datacrons, and just the most obvious fact that new stuff tends to be the power creep that comes to dominate the meta. But suuuuuuuuure... there's no expectation of using the new characters. None at all. It's not like they have a raid or a legendary or a GL or anything. 

"and to fill it out with new marquees is rubbish"

There's a team that can max score on the highest difficulty tier that doesn't require a single one of the new marqees: KB, Jocasta + pick any combination of old JV (like Shaak or Aayla). So, at the very least, with this single team, you could be scoring 3.6mln in the raid with one team, with none of the new marquees (compared to the 700k you're scoring now). 

Is it still the "new" raid model when it's been around for 3 years? It's not like this raid structure was dropped on us like an anvil 2 months ago. 

Ah yes the new raid model. The raid model where we make toons that have no relevance to the raid whatsoever required. Thank you for telling CG that it is totally ok to do that. Frankly I don’t mind having specific toons eligible to do a raid. I think the idea is kinda cool in isolation. The problem is when those reqs make absolutely no sense to the lore so that way CG can blatantly money grab. Like pirates for Order 66? Seriously? We couldn’t think of anything else to do with them, then just shoe horn them in the new raid? And what’s even better is that units that do make sense like oh idk LORD VADER cannot be used. What a joke. 

I don’t mind raids being difficult or only allowing specific units. But at the very least they should make sense. I honestly believe that people would be less frustrated with both pirates and the raid if CG put in a bit more effort to encourage revenge of the sith units to be farmed for the raid. Then I think people would be totally down for the pirate era if it were totally distinct from Order 66. 

Nonsense- one teams requirements for Mace Windu get you 1.2m comfortably and the entire team aren't even needed for that.

Pirates at low stars and G12 get 450k. Other characters can easily get 300k and Tarkin and Nest solo well too.

This is a you issue not a raid one.

Impressive!

I'm mostly f2p 12.6m too and delighted with my 5.8m. What I like is that as I build  / improve teams my score is improving each week, same with my guild in that it always feels we are improving.

"The raid model where we make toons that have no relevance to the raid whatsoever required."

I always laugh when I see this. NS + JKA paper zombie cheese in HSTR P3. CLS  in AAT. SLKR in CPit. 

"Like pirates for Order 66? Seriously?"

If I had a penny for every time I've seen someone complain about Pirates being in the O66 raid on these forums, I might have enough money by now to buy a crystal pack. Y'all are still on this? People have posted 18mln points without Pirates. You don't need to touch Pirates with a 10-foot pole if you don't want to build them for the raid. 

LV? By your logic, it would then be LV vs LV, which doesn't make sense, so it's a good thing LV isn't a raid unit. 

“LV? By your logic, it would be LV vs LV, which doesn’t make sense”

Yes and it makes so much more sense for Hondo Ohnaka and his band of pirates to be fighting them. I remember so well in Episode 3 when all the pirates, season 3 bad batch and tarkin came down to rescue the Jedi from their execution. 

Also DS clones are allowed, and they’re fighting DS clones…so that’s already out the window. May as well put in a GL that makes sense for the raid. If not him then Kenobi. Or maybe there could be a distinct DS and LS version of the raid kinda territory battles for Hoth and Geonosis. LS is the raid as is, and DS is trying to kill the Jedi with clones or any imperial units that would make sense for the time. That’s just spitball, feel free to hate if you want. But either way if DS clone troopers can fight DS clone troopers then it doesn’t make sense already and may as well throw in the GL that had an actual role in Order 66 instead of some randos who weren’t apart of it at all. 

“I always laugh when I see this. NS + JKA paper zombie cheese in HSTR P3. CLS  in AAT. SLKR in CPit. ”

Hey man you know what’s crazy? Everyone was allowed in these raids. It was like this until the Krayt Dragon raid, where CG then decided to only allow certain units that were relevant to the lore. If everyone was allowed in Order 66, I imagine very few people would complain about the reqs, since you can use literally anyone. People complain about the reqs now because CG is limiting who you can use. But the basis they are using to limit these units make absolutely no sense at all, except to be a cash grab. 

I’ll definitely agree that if you watch guides, mod effectively and have a decent team, the raid isn’t that hard. I am just disappointed by such a cool idea for a raid being squandered by these absurd reqs and I imagine a lot of people feel that way and don’t want to invest in raid teams for that very reason.