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8 years ago

Overly high Dodge Rates

Anyone else noticing ships and PvP Arena AI controlled are dodging at a much higher rate than normal? I wonder if it caused by Secrets misfiring or corrupting the code of the rest of the game. We have also noticed Rancor and AAT are both dodging attacks since release of new content. Any thoughts as to why this might be happening or a root cause? Target says in nice big capital letters DODGE so it’s not miss or evade. AAT guns are DODGing, Rancor is straight DODGing, Jedi Consular is DODGing as are other ships with no dodge ability regardless of Capital Ship. Regardless of lead in PVP, which 99% of are not Luminara Lead, targets are dodging a lot. Totally stimyed by this sudden amazing agility everyone displays.

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  • I'm totally STMYIED by this post full of errors.
    Firstly, Dodge IS Evasion for normal physical attacks and Deflection is Evasion for special damage attacks. So what do you mean by "Target says in nice big capital letters DODGE so it’s not miss or evade."
    Secondly, Rancor/Tank and so on have ALWAYS been able to Evade.
    Thirdly, you probably ran into a bad patch of poor RNG and combined with your Confirmation Bias is concluding that everything under the sun is dodging.
    Lastly, if you look at the code-mined formula for Tenacity vs Potency, you can see that there is a level delta component. I would not be terribly surprised if there were a level delta component in the formula for Accuracy vs Evasion which could explain the "heightened" Evasion rate which you have experienced.

    And no, I have not observed AI to have improved Evasion rate, which isn't much of a sample size, but I refuse to wear a tin foil hat and subscribe to all these nonsense conspiracy theories. In fact, you will probably just disregard the above paragraph and just subscribe to the theory that EA/CG has tagged your account to have the worst possible luck versus AI opponents.
  • "Huatimus;c-1321666" wrote:
    I'm totally STMYIED by this post full of errors.
    Firstly, Dodge IS Evasion for normal physical attacks and Deflection is Evasion for special damage attacks. So what do you mean by "Target says in nice big capital letters DODGE so it’s not miss or evade."
    Secondly, Rancor/Tank and so on have ALWAYS been able to Evade.
    Thirdly, you probably ran into a bad patch of poor RNG and combined with your Confirmation Bias is concluding that everything under the sun is dodging.
    Lastly, if you look at the code-mined formula for Tenacity vs Potency, you can see that there is a level delta component. I would not be terribly surprised if there were a level delta component in the formula for Accuracy vs Evasion which could explain the "heightened" Evasion rate which you have experienced.

    And no, I have not observed AI to have improved Evasion rate, which isn't much of a sample size, but I refuse to wear a tin foil hat and subscribe to all these nonsense conspiracy theories. In fact, you will probably just disregard the above paragraph and just subscribe to the theory that EA/CG has tagged your account to have the worst possible luck versus AI opponents.


    I ask a simple question and your treatment is overly ridiculous. Evasion says evasion. Deflection like Biggs says deflection. Dodge is neither of those. Dodge says dodge. All three of these verbs appear above a target when a negative action is taken against them. I also see Healhiest in red letters. Power Down in red letters, Tenacity Up in green, etc.

    If you have no competent answer other than to be degrading, keep it to yourself. Or better yet, just ignore the poster.
  • Unfortunately for you, my answer is competent enough because it is based on FACTS. Let me spoon feed it to you.
    Step 1 Go to any character and click on STATS button on bottom right hand corner
    Step 2 Scroll down to Dodge chance.
    Step 3 Read it, Determines the chance to EVADE Physical abilities.
    Step 4 Scroll down to Deflection chance.
    Step 5 Read it, Determines the chance to EVADE Special abilities.

    And just for you, I did some special investigation and found that there IS a level delta component for evasion checks so if your raid target is higher level(Lvl 90 vs your 85), their evasion is going to be higher than base of 2%.

    But please, go ahead and ignore the competent answer based on facts and carry on with your baseless theories about misfiring/corrupted code.
  • The last time I brought something like this to light the code had corrupted in the exact nodes mentioned and the Devs acknowledged that the speed modifier was double what it should have been for some unknown reason, which was then corrected. So please continue to be degrading with your tone. You are extremely harassing and condensending and your particular branding of fellow players is both degrading and uncalled for. You are treding a fine line of verbal harassment. I don’t see CG in front of your name so whatever “investigation” you conducted is purely speculation. Please take your harassment elsewhere, your bullying is unwelcome as are your comments.

    @Vampire_X for assistance with the unwelcome comments.

    Base chance for all ships appears to be 2% for all ships with pilot regardless of level of ship or pilot.

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