Potential CAT AI changes …

Maybe newer things are supposed to be better sometimes?

"Ultra;c-2279025" wrote:
AI bad on defense is bad for the players

They have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to fix bad AI on defense.

GLs were supposed go be “balanced“ (somewhat).
Bad AI on defense? When was it ever good?

Someone in my guild chat brought up the times, where new meta teams were always superior. Like Traya vs JKR or DR meta. I was never running JKR in arena and my success rate with Traya was comparable to the one I‘m having right now with SEE. The GG nute squads were pretty reliable with all the zetas and a small gear disparity, more reliable than SEE vs JMK.
Also, general problem: Offense goes up with relics / Mastery like crazy, survivability doesn‘t. And now CAT can hit for more than a million damage in arena. How‘s that balanced?

"Ultra;c-2279029" wrote:

"th3evo;c-2279027" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2279025" wrote:
AI bad on defense is bad for the players

They have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to fix bad AI on defense.

Good thing they are starting somewhere

It's a shame they won't do much else.

In other words, the AI is working correctly, and prioritizing the proper ability. It just so happens that there's a taunt up which she can't go around until JMK has the high ground. Stop making the kits so crazy OP and ridiculous. If you make a character that insta kills on turn 1, you have to accept she might be forced to use it on the "non optimal" toon (ie, not gas)

"Nauros;c-2279032" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2279025" wrote:
AI bad on defense is bad for the players

No. AI bad on defense ensures mobility in arena. Perfect AI would turn arena into little more than mod check with a bit of RNG.

Very true.
SLKR got “fixed“ at some point and now he won‘t ever use an AoE, if Fives is around. That has never been fixed …

"Kyno;c-2279041" wrote:

"frackme_21;c-2279034" wrote:
In other words, the AI is working correctly, and prioritizing the proper ability. It just so happens that there's a taunt up which she can't go around until JMK has the high ground. Stop making the kits so crazy OP and ridiculous. If you make a character that insta kills on turn 1, you have to accept she might be forced to use it on the "non optimal" toon (ie, not gas)

They will keep attacking the previously taunting toon in soem cases without a taunt, that has been an ongoing issue with the AI. That may be part of what they are looking at, but we dont have details at this time.

What's wrong with AI attacking a tank that doesn't have taunt? Should AI avoid JML when he isn't taunting?

"Ravens1113;c-2279039" wrote:

"TVF;c-2279024" wrote:
Maybe newer things are supposed to be better sometimes?

Except when they’ve specifically stated that GL’s are supposed to be on par with each other. I don’t see how this interaction does anything to JMK/CAT except make it possible to beat it on defense? Even with these team comps it requires specific modding and targeting and is no guaranteed win.

I also mentioned that earlier, but tbh, CG‘s word isn‘t worth a dime …
We were also supposed to need less valuable gear with the introduction of Kyrotech. Now they have reverted it back on two characters, where it seemed “a bit“ excessive

"Ravens1113;c-2279053" wrote:

"Artumas;c-2279050" wrote:
I've been watching a lot of videos on JMK+CAT counters, and if you watch a couple of them, it's VERY apparent what the issue is.

Zombie will taunt.
Zombie will die.
80+% of attacks will still be targeted at Zombie, despite Zombie no longer taunting.
JMK will Ult, giving the entire team taunt cirumvention, which SHOULD re-prioritize targeting for the entire team.
80+% of attacks will still be targeted at Zombie.
This is with characters that minus taunting are very obviously prioritized by the AI up, like GAS and JKR.

It's not even a situation like SLKR counters with Fives, they're literally prioritizing a character that can't die because it taunted once, and is very obviously erroneous rather than "exploiting move and targeting priority".

I'm also pretty sure this applies to more than just Zombie and Brute, as I've sort of noticed it with my Rey team as well, if I have GK, as soon as he taunts once, half the rest of my team just gets straight up ignored, despite often being targeted by the first couple of attacks prior to GK taunting, and this wasn't happening anywhere in arena for the past like 6+ months in the same way.

It's like they're unable to properly re-target after someone taunts.

If that’s the case then fine. If it’s a bug in the AI then I get it. But wouldn’t that make it a problem for ALL of the AI then? Not just JMK

I'd like to take this opportunity to play the "spaghetti code" card....

"th3evo;c-2279044" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2279041" wrote:

"frackme_21;c-2279034" wrote:
In other words, the AI is working correctly, and prioritizing the proper ability. It just so happens that there's a taunt up which she can't go around until JMK has the high ground. Stop making the kits so crazy OP and ridiculous. If you make a character that insta kills on turn 1, you have to accept she might be forced to use it on the "non optimal" toon (ie, not gas)

They will keep attacking the previously taunting toon in soem cases without a taunt, that has been an ongoing issue with the AI. That may be part of what they are looking at, but we dont have details at this time.

What's wrong with AI attacking a tank that doesn't have taunt? Should AI avoid JML when he isn't taunting?

There is nothing wrong with attacking them, but after a taunt is gone it should go back to random or other priorities they have, and that doesnt always seem to be the case. But as I said I dont have details on what they are looking at, just talking.