Current character release cadence is something like this:Marquee release --> 4-6 weeks --> shipments/chromium packs --> 4-6 weeks --> single hard node/cantina node/guild shop/fleet shop.Unfortunately, this is resulting in a significant amount of toons ending up on single hard nodes recently. Are there plans to make these toons more farmable @CG_SBCrumb? A single hard node takes like 6 months to farm to 7 stars which maybe is the intent for some but it seems like all of them are that way. Why have Visas and Sabine on single hard nodes for example? Neither of them are earth-shattering meta characters? Rose? Holdo? I know it's been stated before that the other shops won't be touched as these are intended to feed the shard shop store but with all the toons being released this is going to continue to clutter up the LS/DS and possibly ship nodes at the rate things are going. Please revisit that aspect of the character release cadence. Let players decide if they want a toon or shard shop currency.As an option, I propose the following which should maintain the exclusive nature of these characters for a time but progressively allow them to become more farmable:Releases that go to hard nodes: Marquee release --> 4-6 weeks --> shipments/chromium packs --> 4-6 weeks --> single hard node --> 4-6 weeks --> 2 hard nodes --> 4-6 weeks --> 3 hard nodes or start removing from hard nodes and add them to either cantina/arena/GW.and Releases that go to other locations: Marquee release --> 4-6 weeks --> shipments/chromium packs --> 4-6 weeks --> cantina node/guild shop/fleet shop.

Agreed. This is where the problem lies, IMO, not with marquee events. Single hard nodes, especially the 20 energy ones which is the only place these characters are going, are miserably long farms which hinder gear acquisition for long periods of time.

Excellent idea to modify it too, OP.These single node farms are awful, but if it was only the starting place for these toons, and they'd continue to open up in more places as months go by that would be MUCH better.

If the plan is to add new characters on the cantina farm schedule, and with the major mod shuffle, we should get a separate energy for mod farming. If the mod only energy becomes a reality, I think I could bear it.

They will not make a change like this. Krakens will stop paying $300 for every marquee toon, and whales will stop occasionally paying that much for a marquee toon with a good kit if they can farm them quickly a few weeks later. They don’t want you to be able to easily farm these new characters. They want you to buy them. They will try to get you to buy them via the incredibly overpriced and deceptively marketed 3-330 shard packs. Then they will try to get you to buy the via slightly less overpriced Chromium packs, then via moderately overpriced crystal purchases via shipments, then via refreshes.They are apparently committed to this business model, so do not expect any changes.

"SoonerJBD;c-1597983" wrote:They will not make a change like this. Krakens will stop paying $300 for every marquee toon, and whales will stop occasionally paying that much for a marquee toon with a good kit if they can farm them quickly a few weeks later. They don’t want you to be able to easily farm these new characters. They want you to buy them. They will try to get you to buy them via the incredibly overpriced and deceptively marketed 3-330 shard packs. Then they will try to get you to buy the via slightly less overpriced Chromium packs, then via moderately overpriced crystal purchases via shipments, then via refreshes.They are apparently committed to this business model, so do not expect any changes.My proposal was up to 6 months after the initial release before a hard-node toon becomes farmable from 3 hard nodes or farmable within a store. The whales and Krakens have long moved on to the next shiny thing by that point.

Proposed Revision to the Character Release Cadence

spiffy4433
7 years ago
At least move the toons that had low sales numbers to cantina nodes or multiple nodes. Young lando/han, vando chewie, etc. Maybe even add these to GW shop eventually.
Chemisecomp1598
7 years ago
The problem as nothing to do with the cadence, the problem is that they put chars on hard node and only there. Visas, check. Sion, double check. Talzin, check. And now, Bossk ? As if BH where so popular to be farmed and not hard enough to get, you then have to farm this useful character to get a faction that doesn't entirely suck.

There're other possibilities such as cantina nodes (as they excluded GW, ships and arena stores). You can as well put them in the shards store like it was back in the day. But no, they choose to make it hard, again. :smile:
DoomeyEyes
7 years ago
Yeah, I have no problem with the single hard node being the final word on toon farming... yeah, it takes a while but you can cut that time in half with a daily refresh or if you want them faster you can buy from shipments... the scarcity makes your choices on who to farm more meaningful.
GOW_LIKE_A_BOSS
7 years ago
"DoomeyEyes;c-1598264" wrote:
Yeah, I have no problem with the single hard node being the final word on toon farming... yeah, it takes a while but you can cut that time in half with a daily refresh or if you want them faster you can buy from shipments... the scarcity makes your choices on who to farm more meaningful.

That's fine when it's an amazing character who is super rare, but they are ALL going to a single hard node. Most of these characters are "meh" at best, and are not sufficiently powerful to warrant the slog of grinding them off a lone hard node
BrainZEROX
7 years ago
I agree, this single hard node issue is getting more and more preoccupying with each new release. Farming one single character for six months is a huge commitment. It's much too long... This won't make me invest more in the game but this may very well make me leave for another game.
Zevox87
7 years ago
"GOWLIKEABOSS;c-1598287" wrote:
That's fine when it's an amazing character who is super rare, but they are ALL going to a single hard node. Most of these characters are "meh" at best, and are not sufficiently powerful to warrant the slog of grinding them off a lone hard node

Agreed, that's the issue at the moment. If we're going to have these super-long single hard node farms, at least make it characters that make sense to be that hard to get. Putting the likes of Sion or Talzin onto hard nodes makes sense. But Wicket and Visas? Holdo and Rose? Bossk? They all have their uses (well, except Rose) and can be important to certain teams, sure, but none are powerhouse endgame characters. Why are the likes of them getting made so hard to acquire? That doesn't make any sense, and just becomes frustrating.

It's not hard to choose to farm the likes of Sion, Nihilus, Talzin, etc over Bossk, Wicket, Holdo, etc. But it is annoying to know that, for example, you won't be able to have a functioning Bounty Hunter team until you finish those better characters and take the additional half-year or so to farm Bossk from that single hard node. Especially since everyone can see coming that some of these KotOR characters will probably end up on hard nodes and will be needed for Revan, which will push other farms like those that much further down the priority list when it happens.
DoM1NaNcE
7 years ago
Definetly needs changing. Ive played this game everyday for probably a year. Ive spent about £150-£200 yet dont have majority of the characters. How much time and money is reasonable for a mobile game?
The amount they expect you to pay for a game that takes very little development compared to a pc/console game that costs a fraction of the price.
AbC5562a9887315
7 years ago
Even a node rotation would be nice. Like once a month shuffle em all around.
VeeKnea
7 years ago
"Cicero;c-1598193" wrote:
I remember when they put Phoenix in multiple locations and then dropped a legendary for Thrawn like 2 weeks later. I don't see why that couldn't happen here.

That was a panic farm! But nothing beats the vets for the heroes journey. Terrible. At least Phoenix is needed in other places.
It’s a shame they completely cut off the stores. I was hoping they would shuffle some but I guess it’s not fair to newer players. Then I thought of a layered system. So - if you got ig 86 to 7* in gw it would open up a new toon to get.

I suspect that teams of new toons will be spread out - hard node, guild store, cantina. But who knows. Maybe this will be for the new ls scoundrels.

They are counting on people’s love of the old republic and arena edge for people to buy the toons. While we all suffer through platoons.

I don’t mind the marquee events but choosing which hard node farm to farm is a very important choice. By the time you get the toon to 7 will they still be relevant ?
Jefferx_CAN
Rising Newcomer
7 years ago
If all toon are easier to farm, then everybody will have all toon to 7*. Is it really something fun to play ?? The game is fun because only some people do have a toon to 7* and geared. In this way you have to make choice. You are working on which toon to 7* and which you are not working. The game would be pointless if everybody have all new toon to 7* very fast. In the CG point of view, they will have to make even more toon to be include in the game to keep the game fun to play.....