Quit whining

I'm happy for all the guys that have worked on sith from the start. And who are owning arena right now. The thing is that except on the most mature shards that are rife with gk, half ur shard is also going to have the same squad in 1 month or two. And ur going to find arena just as dumb and boring. Because the zaul meta is more annoying than the dodge meta. Remember the days of AI advantage. My ben lead doesn't dodge like AI? Lulz.

The biggest problem on zMaul-META is, you have to decide ... speed or accuracy ... if ea/cg would put accuracy on cross-mods (multiplexer), you would see maul disappear in no time.

"LastJedi;986551" wrote:

You listed viable counters and I added one. And why would they all have to be three star? All are easily farmable except Baze who is viable at 3*. And I'd argue that Baze isn't that much harder to get than GK

Well, thanks for adding one more. My list is now 4 things. GK (usually with Rex L, but also potentially as lead with Chaze and or Zarisse.). Zaul. FO. R1. I have seen on another thread that potentiall Boba lead, Zam, B2, as well? Not sure how that works.

But I don't see how you would have even unlocked Jynn yet from guild store, even if you spent crystals on shipments, too. Maybe just barely unlocked her by now at 4 stars. Cassian would be 4 star, max, too. K2, you have for free on android. Heck, I have done my 3 hard battles for Shore since he was "farmable." He is still barely 4 stars.

I have Chaze, because I spent a boatload on shipments and chromiums. 4 and 5 star by now. I keep hearing how OP I am cuz I have Chaze. :) I kinda doubt that R1 is going to reliably beat Zaul with Zavage, even. Gotta kill Nihilus before he gets you. You got lots of staying power and a revive but no knockout punch.

@LastJedi ... This zDM counter topics has already been discussed in the linked thread - many solutions of teams were presented and even a few people in the thread...got help and had success using the advice of others. You don't need GK or zDM and you don't need a full R1 squad. I'm not going to re-list all combos here, Rex leader is also important and can create many combos on its own - but there's good info in the thread below.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/99907/lets-discuss-squads-to-beat-zmaul-lead/p1

I see you were not in this thread so maybe you missed it and aren't aware of the options presented.

Now.... @Ig88isboss is all over that thread linked above and now it's really clear there's an agenda here and refusal to adjust. Solutions were posted in this thread 10 days ago and I'm sure there's been more on the forums prior to 10 days ago. Point being, if players started just working on the counters and toons that beat zDM rather than just ask for a nerf they'd be in a lot better shape.

"LastJedi;986551" wrote:

You listed viable counters and I added one. And why would they all have to be three star? All are easily farmable except Baze who is viable at 3*. And I'd argue that Baze isn't that much harder to get than GK

Well, thanks for adding one more. My list is now 4 things. GK (usually with Rex L, but also potentially as lead with Chaze and or Zarisse.). Zaul. FO. R1. I have seen on another thread that potentiall Boba lead, Zam, B2, as well? Not sure how that works.

But I don't see how you would have even unlocked Jynn yet from guild store, even if you spent crystals on shipments, too. Maybe just barely unlocked her by now at 4 stars. Cassian would be 4 star, max, too. K2, you have for free on android. Heck, I have done my 3 hard battles for Shore since he was "farmable." He is still barely 4 stars.

I have Chaze, because I spent a boatload on shipments and chromiums. 4 and 5 star by now. I keep hearing how OP I am cuz I have Chaze. :) I kinda doubt that R1 is going to reliably beat Zaul with Zavage, even. Gotta kill Nihilus before he gets you. You got lots of staying power and a revive but no knockout punch.

Theres a guy on my shard that can beat the Zaul teams with Zooku (L), Zoba, Zylo, B2, and EP.

Also, the R1 squad doesn't need to be maxed out on stars to beat a zaul team. The guy who runs a full R1 squad in my shard has Jyn and Cassian at 5*, Chirrut and Baze at 4* and K-2SO at 7*.

Also, one of my guildies runs Rex (L), DT, Zylo, Boba and EP to beat Zaul squads. He was also beating them before with Boba (L), DT, Zylo, EP, and Shoretrooper.

Thats like 5 or 6 viable teams to beat to Zaul, not all of which include GK or Chaze. Thats certainly many more teams than were able to beat previous metas.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;986750" wrote:

"LastJedi;986551" wrote:

You listed viable counters and I added one. And why would they all have to be three star? All are easily farmable except Baze who is viable at 3*. And I'd argue that Baze isn't that much harder to get than GK

Well, thanks for adding one more. My list is now 4 things. GK (usually with Rex L, but also potentially as lead with Chaze and or Zarisse.). Zaul. FO. R1. I have seen on another thread that potentiall Boba lead, Zam, B2, as well? Not sure how that works.

But I don't see how you would have even unlocked Jynn yet from guild store, even if you spent crystals on shipments, too. Maybe just barely unlocked her by now at 4 stars. Cassian would be 4 star, max, too. K2, you have for free on android. Heck, I have done my 3 hard battles for Shore since he was "farmable." He is still barely 4 stars.

I have Chaze, because I spent a boatload on shipments and chromiums. 4 and 5 star by now. I keep hearing how OP I am cuz I have Chaze. :) I kinda doubt that R1 is going to reliably beat Zaul with Zavage, even. Gotta kill Nihilus before he gets you. You got lots of staying power and a revive but no knockout punch.

@LastJedi ... This zDM counter topics has already been discussed in the linked thread - many solutions of teams were presented and even a few people in the thread...got help and had success using the advice of others. You don't need GK or zDM and you don't need a full R1 squad. I'm not going to re-list all combos here, Rex leader is also important and can create many combos on its own - but there's good info in the thread below.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/99907/lets-discuss-squads-to-beat-zmaul-lead/p1

I see you were not in this thread so maybe you missed it and aren't aware of the options presented.

Now.... @Ig88isboss is all over that thread linked above and now it's really clear there's an agenda here and refusal to adjust. Solutions were posted in this thread 10 days ago and I'm sure there's been more on the forums prior to 10 days ago. Point being, if players started just working on the counters and toons that beat zDM rather than just ask for a nerf they'd be in a lot better shape.

Well said. <3

Oh - as long as we're complaining about whining, can we get some sort of agreement that people will stop backing up their opinions and tin-foil hat theories with "...and my whole guild thinks so too!!". If they did, there would be 50 people posting in agreement (or at least 10 or 20)...not one or two.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;986750" wrote:

"LastJedi;986551" wrote:

You listed viable counters and I added one. And why would they all have to be three star? All are easily farmable except Baze who is viable at 3*. And I'd argue that Baze isn't that much harder to get than GK

Well, thanks for adding one more. My list is now 4 things. GK (usually with Rex L, but also potentially as lead with Chaze and or Zarisse.). Zaul. FO. R1. I have seen on another thread that potentiall Boba lead, Zam, B2, as well? Not sure how that works.

But I don't see how you would have even unlocked Jynn yet from guild store, even if you spent crystals on shipments, too. Maybe just barely unlocked her by now at 4 stars. Cassian would be 4 star, max, too. K2, you have for free on android. Heck, I have done my 3 hard battles for Shore since he was "farmable." He is still barely 4 stars.

I have Chaze, because I spent a boatload on shipments and chromiums. 4 and 5 star by now. I keep hearing how OP I am cuz I have Chaze. :) I kinda doubt that R1 is going to reliably beat Zaul with Zavage, even. Gotta kill Nihilus before he gets you. You got lots of staying power and a revive but no knockout punch.

@LastJedi ... This zDM counter topics has already been discussed in the linked thread - many solutions of teams were presented and even a few people in the thread...got help and had success using the advice of others. You don't need GK or zDM and you don't need a full R1 squad. I'm not going to re-list all combos here, Rex leader is also important and can create many combos on its own - but there's good info in the thread below.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/99907/lets-discuss-squads-to-beat-zmaul-lead/p1

I see you were not in this thread so maybe you missed it and aren't aware of the options presented.

Now.... @Ig88isboss is all over that thread linked above and now it's really clear there's an agenda here and refusal to adjust. Solutions were posted in this thread 10 days ago and I'm sure there's been more on the forums prior to 10 days ago. Point being, if players started just working on the counters and toons that beat zDM rather than just ask for a nerf they'd be in a lot better shape.

Lop thx. I took a peek at the tbread. One thing is boba wiggs chaze. Two guys run this on my shard successfully. They have uber speed mods like over 250 speed, which I thought made the difference. I later learned even these guys coordinate with other people to move the zaul zavage teams for them!

So there is a rock paper scissor. Just sucks when ur shard has a deficiency of one or more of these combos.

"Iron_Zilla;985865" wrote:
@The0n3 I try man. Just so many threads saying nerf this and nerf that. All of a sudden rebels aren't in the spotlight people feel upset

I'm regretting holding back on zetaing Maul but personally I'm okay with any meta that keeps the non-exceptionally equipped Wiggers at bay.

"Quit whining"

ok, you first.