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Corran80
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2 years ago

Raid rewards comparison with data

So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild. These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an avera...
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"BubbaFett;c-2420505" wrote:
"Goavs506;c-2420498" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2420495" wrote:
"Goavs506;c-2420492" wrote:
"SithLanksta;c-2420480" wrote:
"Goavs506;c-2420479" wrote:
"NoGodBeforeMyself;c-2420452" wrote:
"BubbaFett;c-2420447" wrote:
"NoGodBeforeMyself;c-2420445" wrote:
this is not getting nearly enough traction. as a ~5m gp player in a ~400m gp guild - i estimate going from ~28 aeros/month to ZERO.
that's just aeros. not considering anything else. i don't need to look at anything else.
this is a huge kick in the teeth and completely unacceptable.


I'm not sure why so many folks are concerned about aeros... You can get them from Conquest as well and many of us have a stockpile of them..


i have only been playing for 13 months. my account is 5m gp. my "stockpile" is 137 aeros, which will be gone in no time due to no longer adding any to it through raids. i would estimate a far greater # of players are in my position than yours.


Oh my gosh poor you! Only 137 aeros! I am at 6 mil and have earned all my aeros through conquest. And am doing just fine. I am glad crancor is gone, so maybe you won’t take them for granted in the future


Short sighted response. 6m? I guarantee your guild is coming nowhere close to the 130M reward box.

Have fun trying to get anything else you need to progress


Actually I’m progressing well. Some of us believe in building up a guild and not jumping ship for a higher one because of aeros. Believe it or not I don’t need 137 Aeros to feel satisfied


Please, there is really no need to argue here.

Nobody wants those mats to feel satisfied, they want them because they need them to progress. How else are you going to be able to help your guild (and your roster) if you can't get the necessary Relics for GLs or GL ships, Relic gates in the new TB etc?


I can and will continue to do so. I have three GLs. And I can get Aeros through conquest. I have plenty of relic 7 characters . And relic 8s on my gls. Of course I would prefer better rewards in the new raid. My point was only that you can survive on “only” 137 aeros


You don't need aeros for relic 7 and you only have 3 R8, so you have only ever used 60 aeros....That isn't a lot and none of that will get you past the third level of planets in RoTE....

While I don't necessarily understand why so many people are fixated on aeros, I do understand power creep in the game and know that more and more content will be released over time that requires your characters to be R8 and above... Which will cost more aeros...


I have LV , so I think I have 6 relic 8s. And yes I would like a system at some point that gives more access to aeros in all guild. Not just guilds at a certain level and above. I just find it strange, that at 5 mil, you need a billion relic 8 characters. And that 137 aeros plus conquest isn’t managable

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data","id":"message:3935064","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":102,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:63601"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3935064"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935064"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":"So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild. These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an avera...","body@stringLength":"1355","rawBody":"So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild.

These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an average of 5th-10th place for Sith and Cpit.

New raid numbers are based on 130 million guild crate, and 4.5 million personal crate.

I undervalued the old gear boxes since finding data on those is sketchy.

Old rewards
18.7 million credits
1.4 million ship credits
35 aeromagnifiers
1836 carbanti level gear
42 kyros
And all gear in boxes (240 carbanti level and 110 fusion furnace level based on very low numbers)

New rewards
38.5 aeromagnifiers (mk3 currency)
632 fusion furnace or equivalent (mk2 currency)
3852 carbanti level gear (mk1 currency)

So the long story short, is for this situation:

Mk1 currency is slightly better rewards
Mk2 currency is about the same
Mk3 currency is about the same

But, if you make less than those crates, which a lot of guilds will, it is not a good value. Anything less than 130 million guild crate deletes the aeromagnifier level mk3 tokens.

So any guild that could do cpit, but does not get the above rewards is suffering.

Hopefully we will see a change","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2023-05-06T03:38:01.000+01:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:raids","text":"raids","time":"2016-04-29T09:08:49.000+01:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3935064_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":7654},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild.

These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an average of 5th-10th place for Sith and Cpit.

New raid numbers are based on 130 million guild crate, and 4.5 million personal crate.

I undervalued the old gear boxes since finding data on those is sketchy.

Old rewards
18.7 million credits
1.4 million ship credits
35 aeromagnifiers
1836 carbanti level gear
42 kyros
And all gear in boxes (240 carbanti level and 110 fusion furnace level based on very low numbers)

New rewards
38.5 aeromagnifiers (mk3 currency)
632 fusion furnace or equivalent (mk2 currency)
3852 carbanti level gear (mk1 currency)

So the long story short, is for this situation:

Mk1 currency is slightly better rewards
Mk2 currency is about the same
Mk3 currency is about the same

But, if you make less than those crates, which a lot of guilds will, it is not a good value. Anything less than 130 million guild crate deletes the aeromagnifier level mk3 tokens.

So any guild that could do cpit, but does not get the above rewards is suffering.

Hopefully we will see a change"},"Conversation:conversation:3935064":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3935064","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3935064"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-05-19T05:42:54.000+01:00","lastPostTime":"2023-05-19T05:42:54.000+01:00","unreadReplyCount":102,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935064":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3935064","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3935064_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3935064_1","lastEditTime":"2023-05-06T03:38:01.000+01:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3935098":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3935098","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3935064"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:141238"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3935098,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Raid rewards comparison with data","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935098"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3935064"},"body":"I unlo
\"BubbaFett;c-2420505\" wrote:
\"Goavs506;c-2420498\" wrote:
\"Lumiya;c-2420495\" wrote:
\"Goavs506;c-2420492\" wrote:
\"SithLanksta;c-2420480\" wrote:
\"Goavs506;c-2420479\" wrote:
\"NoGodBeforeMyself;c-2420452\" wrote:
\"BubbaFett;c-2420447\" wrote:
\"NoGodBeforeMyself;c-2420445\" wrote:
this is not getting nearly enough traction. as a ~5m gp player in a ~400m gp guild - i estimate going from ~28 aeros/month to ZERO.
that's just aeros. not considering anything else. i don't need to look at anything else.
this is a huge kick in the teeth and completely unacceptable.


I'm not sure why so many folks are concerned about aeros... You can get them from Conquest as well and many of us have a stockpile of them..


i have only been playing for 13 months. my account is 5m gp. my \"stockpile\" is 137 aeros, which will be gone in no time due to no longer adding any to it through raids. i would estimate a far greater # of players are in my position than yours.


Oh my gosh poor you! Only 137 aeros! I am at 6 mil and have earned all my aeros through conquest. And am doing just fine. I am glad crancor is gone, so maybe you won’t take them for granted in the future


Short sighted response. 6m? I guarantee your guild is coming nowhere close to the 130M reward box.

Have fun trying to get anything else you need to progress


Actually I’m progressing well. Some of us believe in building up a guild and not jumping ship for a higher one because of aeros. Believe it or not I don’t need 137 Aeros to feel satisfied


Please, there is really no need to argue here.

Nobody wants those mats to feel satisfied, they want them because they need them to progress. How else are you going to be able to help your guild (and your roster) if you can't get the necessary Relics for GLs or GL ships, Relic gates in the new TB etc?


I can and will continue to do so. I have three GLs. And I can get Aeros through conquest. I have plenty of relic 7 characters . And relic 8s on my gls. Of course I would prefer better rewards in the new raid. My point was only that you can survive on “only” 137 aeros


You don't need aeros for relic 7 and you only have 3 R8, so you have only ever used 60 aeros....That isn't a lot and none of that will get you past the third level of planets in RoTE....

While I don't necessarily understand why so many people are fixated on aeros, I do understand power creep in the game and know that more and more content will be released over time that requires your characters to be R8 and above... Which will cost more aeros...


I have LV , so I think I have 6 relic 8s. And yes I would like a system at some point that gives more access to aeros in all guild. Not just guilds at a certain level and above. I just find it strange, that at 5 mil, you need a billion relic 8 characters. And that 137 aeros plus conquest isn’t managable","body@stringLength":"3237","rawBody":"I unlo
\"BubbaFett;c-2420505\" wrote:
\"Goavs506;c-2420498\" wrote:
\"Lumiya;c-2420495\" wrote:
\"Goavs506;c-2420492\" wrote:
\"SithLanksta;c-2420480\" wrote:
\"Goavs506;c-2420479\" wrote:
\"NoGodBeforeMyself;c-2420452\" wrote:
\"BubbaFett;c-2420447\" wrote:
\"NoGodBeforeMyself;c-2420445\" wrote:
this is not getting nearly enough traction. as a ~5m gp player in a ~400m gp guild - i estimate going from ~28 aeros/month to ZERO.
that's just aeros. not considering anything else. i don't need to look at anything else.
this is a huge kick in the teeth and completely unacceptable.


I'm not sure why so many folks are concerned about aeros... You can get them from Conquest as well and many of us have a stockpile of them..


i have only been playing for 13 months. my account is 5m gp. my \"stockpile\" is 137 aeros, which will be gone in no time due to no longer adding any to it through raids. i would estimate a far greater # of players are in my position than yours.


Oh my gosh poor you! Only 137 aeros! I am at 6 mil and have earned all my aeros through conquest. And am doing just fine. I am glad crancor is gone, so maybe you won’t take them for granted in the future


Short sighted response. 6m? I guarantee your guild is coming nowhere close to the 130M reward box.

Have fun trying to get anything else you need to progress


Actually I’m progressing well. Some of us believe in building up a guild and not jumping ship for a higher one because of aeros. Believe it or not I don’t need 137 Aeros to feel satisfied


Please, there is really no need to argue here.

Nobody wants those mats to feel satisfied, they want them because they need them to progress. How else are you going to be able to help your guild (and your roster) if you can't get the necessary Relics for GLs or GL ships, Relic gates in the new TB etc?


I can and will continue to do so. I have three GLs. And I can get Aeros through conquest. I have plenty of relic 7 characters . And relic 8s on my gls. Of course I would prefer better rewards in the new raid. My point was only that you can survive on “only” 137 aeros


You don't need aeros for relic 7 and you only have 3 R8, so you have only ever used 60 aeros....That isn't a lot and none of that will get you past the third level of planets in RoTE....

While I don't necessarily understand why so many people are fixated on aeros, I do understand power creep in the game and know that more and more content will be released over time that requires your characters to be R8 and above... Which will cost more aeros...


I have LV , so I think I have 6 relic 8s. And yes I would like a system at some point that gives more access to aeros in all guild. Not just guilds at a certain level and above. I just find it strange, that at 5 mil, you need a billion relic 8 characters. 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