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Eviljacket
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9 years ago

Regardless of current standing, Asajj was once and should now be, Sith!

I know there have been many debates, many examples of who is what, when and why, but the fact is Asajj was once and should now be, labeled a Sith I'm SWGOH. Especially if Darth Maul can defect and just name his brother a Sith apprentice and declare himself a Sith Master. It would open her up to more teams and she'd see much more play, especially with her rework.

Any and all comments welcomed, but try to keep it to support of this idea, any Dev comments would be great too as to why she is not but others are when they technically shouldn't be, etc. Cuz if we're gona get technical for her, then we should for everyone, but making her Sith just seems right and would make alot more players happy vs not happy, much more.

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Thx :)

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  • "DarthLucaz;818507" wrote:
    Facts- Dooku taught her as his apprentice
    -Asajj was not Sith when she started
    -Sidious feared her power, more than Dooku's, Maul's and Savage's
    -dooku intended to overthrow Sidious with her (Dark Disciple)
    -In Dark Disciple she says she is a former Sith
    -she knows far more of the dark side than all inquisitors combined
    -Starwars.com labelled her sith for a year before retconning it once inquisitors appeared in Rebels
    -she is educated in combating force lightning a sith secret Dooku said he would not teach savage
    -to become a sith one has to be trained in the ways of the sith - filoni. Can anyone deny she was trained in sith methods of torture and power manipulation? The inquisitors never recieved the training she did
    In conclusion, all evidence points to her being at the very least the Sith equivalent of a padawan. While the inquisitors are simply dark side adepts she has deep knowledge of the dark side. To the point where it is clear Dooku did not believe in or seek to follow the rule of two. Ingame I am fine with her not being a Sith, however to call her equal to the inquisitors or a dark jedi from the Expanded Universe is far too narrow for her. She was a Sith when Dooku was ordered to kill her. She was as powerful as Anakin after he turned and knew more of the dark side than darth vader did throughout the Revenge of the Sith and yet he gets the label immediatly where she is snubbed by fans despite all the facts.


    I beg to differ on her being as powerful as Anakin. Maybe if you qualified it, as powerful as Anakin post limb loss, ie handicapped Anakin.


  • However the sith apprentice can have his own followers/minions and even train other dark side users (like Tyranus did, or Vader with Galen Malek)


    Vader never trained Galen malek because it doesn't exist. Fun game but it never happened.

  • My opinion is there aren't enough Sith for any sort of synergy. Get more Sith or just remove the tag and switch to "Dark Side" or something.

    If she was considered even an ally at one point I think its would be acceptable to add Sith label for gameplay/balance reasons.

    You can be as technically right and true to the source but they never wrote the books movies to make sure a mobile collecting turn based squad battle game is balanced.
  • She was trained by dooku who was trained in the ways of the Sith but didn't teach her the ways of the Sith. She was a darkside using Assassin.
  • Have you seen the clone wars? Asaj practically turned into a bounty hunter wth a red lightsaber.
  • "DimesandPennies;819515" wrote:
    "DarthLucaz;819281" wrote:
    "WrathofCaedus;818989" wrote:
    "DarthLucaz;818507" wrote:
    Facts- Dooku taught her as his apprentice
    -Asajj was not Sith when she started
    -Sidious feared her power, more than Dooku's, Maul's and Savage's
    -dooku intended to overthrow Sidious with her (Dark Disciple)
    -In Dark Disciple she says she is a former Sith
    -she knows far more of the dark side than all inquisitors combined
    -Starwars.com labelled her sith for a year before retconning it once inquisitors appeared in Rebels
    -she is educated in combating force lightning a sith secret Dooku said he would not teach savage
    -to become a sith one has to be trained in the ways of the sith - filoni. Can anyone deny she was trained in sith methods of torture and power manipulation? The inquisitors never recieved the training she did
    In conclusion, all evidence points to her being at the very least the Sith equivalent of a padawan. While the inquisitors are simply dark side adepts she has deep knowledge of the dark side. To the point where it is clear Dooku did not believe in or seek to follow the rule of two. Ingame I am fine with her not being a Sith, however to call her equal to the inquisitors or a dark jedi from the Expanded Universe is far too narrow for her. She was a Sith when Dooku was ordered to kill her. She was as powerful as Anakin after he turned and knew more of the dark side than darth vader did throughout the Revenge of the Sith and yet he gets the label immediatly where she is snubbed by fans despite all the facts.


    I beg to differ on her being as powerful as Anakin. Maybe if you qualified it, as powerful as Anakin post limb loss, ie handicapped Anakin.


    I stand by that statement due to the scene where Asajj overpowers both Anakin and Obi-wan simultaneously. Also, the fights with Dooku after she is betrayed by him. She fights on even ground with Dooku until he begins using force lightning.

    My biggest problem with the argument that Asajj is not a Sith comes from the Rule of Two itself. It is not a law, it is a guideline that Sidious, Plaguies and all between him and Bane CHOOSE to adhere to in order acheive their ultimate goal. The Sith believe in power and fear and only use rules and law if it fits with their plan. Part of me believes Dooku is unique among Sith Lords. The only apprentice to have ever been taught force lightning. He wasnt just Sidious' apprentice he was a Sith Master. And as any true Master of a practice there is an inate desire to pass on ones teaching.

    The reason the Rule of Two is so important is not because it allowed the Sith to survive in the shadows without internal conflict, but because the Jedi believed it was 100% correct. They believed it was infallible. If two there must be, then Asajj is the apprentice during the Majority of the clone wars and Dooku the master. Essential for Sidious to remain hidden. From the Jedi perspective she is Sith, and who better to give the label than a jedi? Once there would have been hundreds of sith and the labels of Darth or the number two did not determine their label. Why should one rule, conceived originallyy to convince the Jedi the Sith were extinct, determine the number of sith, especially when that rule must have been broken at its beginning. Bane made the rule right? Then told the jedi about it...So they wouodve executed him and an apprentice and believed the only two sith were dead. Meanwhile, another sith must have existed to keep the order alive. To me that is common sense.


    This is perfect. The people who believe that the rule of two is concrete are gullible, so I'm even including the Jedi council in this group. Make up a rule to hide your true numbers, total sith move. And if savage gets the sith tag for this game asajj should get the same treatment.


    Yes I loved the write up. The people believing the rule of 2 is concrete is crazy, about as bad as the ones that believe canon is set in stone.
  • "Jnbentzel81;818477" wrote:
    Hey Grimm! It's barad


    Hey bro!

    Still trying to get Asajj tagged correctly ...most don't even know Maul designated himself a master when he told Sid to F off ...that's not how a "Master" is designated, especially when Sid was the true Master at the same time Maul said he was ...so there goes your "rule of two" arguments ...

    If Savage is tagged Sith ...Asajj should be tagged Sith, point blank

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