Requesting Fives refund

in my experience yes, some math genius will probably write like 99.9% it works and only I'm the idiot

"Adamklark;c-2063792" wrote:
in my experience yes, some math genius will probably write like 99.9% it works and only I'm the ****

lol ok

"TJax;c-2063735" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2063565" wrote:
In all seriousness it's fine if you actually mod him like a tank and actually use him to, you know, tank. The only time it's a disadvantage is if you saw that Skelturix video and you're like "ZOMG I WANT SOLO SIFFRAIDZ."

Yes, it's an annoyance if you're trying to do that, but if you are, just like...don't use his special. You're trying to kill him off ASAP anyway so it won't make much difference.

When he has the zeta he has no need to taunt as attacking anyone else if preferable from a defensive standpoint. The omega ability should REMOVE the ability to taunt, that way if you want him to tank, don’t invest in the zeta that will be useless and don’t invest in the omega. As it stands, you are better in the long run to leave an ability at a lower level which is not WAI

...I mean, again, if you don’t want him to taunt just don’t use the special. It’s not that hard.

"Jarvind;c-2063850" wrote:

"TJax;c-2063735" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2063565" wrote:
In all seriousness it's fine if you actually mod him like a tank and actually use him to, you know, tank. The only time it's a disadvantage is if you saw that Skelturix video and you're like "ZOMG I WANT SOLO SIFFRAIDZ."

Yes, it's an annoyance if you're trying to do that, but if you are, just like...don't use his special. You're trying to kill him off ASAP anyway so it won't make much difference.

When he has the zeta he has no need to taunt as attacking anyone else if preferable from a defensive standpoint. The omega ability should REMOVE the ability to taunt, that way if you want him to tank, don’t invest in the zeta that will be useless and don’t invest in the omega. As it stands, you are better in the long run to leave an ability at a lower level which is not WAI

...I mean, again, if you don’t want him to taunt just don’t use the special. It’s not that hard.

Or if GAS is already taunting then you can use the special

5s is better now than he's ever been, and the taunt is a huge addition to his kit. Maybe they should have refunded the omegas since, regardless of it being a great addition, it's a significant change to an existing ability--but asking for gear and zeta refunds? Come on. Now you're just showing your hand. That's what you wanted from the jump and you're just trying to be sly about it. Don't play games, just ask outright so people can tell you directly why that's not going to happen.

"Gifafi;c-2063782" wrote:

"Adamklark;c-2063778" wrote:
even if you put him in 5th position his zeta doesn't active sometimes for some reason (like 1/10).
also if multiple clones die at the same time he saves nobody, enjoy your buggy game

you think fives' zeta doesn't work 10% of the time? lol

Maybe it's an Easter Egg and his ability doesn't work 5% of the time ?

"NicWester;c-2063887" wrote:
5s is better now than he's ever been, and the taunt is a huge addition to his kit. Maybe they should have refunded the omegas since, regardless of it being a great addition, it's a significant change to an existing ability--but asking for gear and zeta refunds? Come on. Now you're just showing your hand. That's what you wanted from the jump and you're just trying to be sly about it. Don't play games, just ask outright so people can tell you directly why that's not going to happen.

"Gifafi;c-2063782" wrote:

"Adamklark;c-2063778" wrote:
even if you put him in 5th position his zeta doesn't active sometimes for some reason (like 1/10).
also if multiple clones die at the same time he saves nobody, enjoy your buggy game

you think fives' zeta doesn't work 10% of the time? lol

Maybe it's an Easter Egg and his ability doesn't work 5% of the time ?

Errm, good try, but no, I love clones, since I started I wanted clones to be good, I don't care about relics of gear used because I love fives, the taunt however, I do not care for

"SparkyBurns;c-2063769" wrote:
If you're placing any of the clones iterations with Fives on defense, then you are fully aware that the human attacking your team knows to kill Fives first, right? So in that case knowing that they will then attack him you absolutely want Fives with taunt up because he's going to gain a massive boost to his defense and cause plenty of problems while doing it. It's not the best omega ability by any stretch but it isn't that bad.

I would rather someone attack any other clone. I’ll take multiplying my r7 fives x3 over a 100% boost to defense and +100% offense to echo any day. Also, I would like to be able to call the assist for increased damage.

"Jarvind;c-2063850" wrote:

"TJax;c-2063735" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2063565" wrote:
In all seriousness it's fine if you actually mod him like a tank and actually use him to, you know, tank. The only time it's a disadvantage is if you saw that Skelturix video and you're like "ZOMG I WANT SOLO SIFFRAIDZ."

Yes, it's an annoyance if you're trying to do that, but if you are, just like...don't use his special. You're trying to kill him off ASAP anyway so it won't make much difference.

When he has the zeta he has no need to taunt as attacking anyone else if preferable from a defensive standpoint. The omega ability should REMOVE the ability to taunt, that way if you want him to tank, don’t invest in the zeta that will be useless and don’t invest in the omega. As it stands, you are better in the long run to leave an ability at a lower level which is not WAI

...I mean, again, if you don’t want him to taunt just don’t use the special. It’s not that hard.

Kinda hard for me to not use the special when the ai is playing my team on defense bro.

If your team is on D you want him to taunt lol. Your opponent will attack him either way.

I actually use the taunt all the time. Will modding him with speed secondaries and health and protection primaries, I also use defense sets and hes SUPER TANKY.

I'll use his taunt right off the bat against DR and grievous because I know it's going to be dispelled instantly, and with DR fear will only get applied to him and the leader.

TLDR ; just because you don't find it useful, doesn't mean others dont

"TJax;c-2063909" wrote:

"SparkyBurns;c-2063769" wrote:
If you're placing any of the clones iterations with Fives on defense, then you are fully aware that the human attacking your team knows to kill Fives first, right? So in that case knowing that they will then attack him you absolutely want Fives with taunt up because he's going to gain a massive boost to his defense and cause plenty of problems while doing it. It's not the best omega ability by any stretch but it isn't that bad.

I would rather someone attack any other clone. I’ll take multiplying my r7 fives x3 over a 100% boost to defense and +100% offense to echo any day. Also, I would like to be able to call the assist for increased damage.

"Jarvind;c-2063850" wrote:

"TJax;c-2063735" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2063565" wrote:
In all seriousness it's fine if you actually mod him like a tank and actually use him to, you know, tank. The only time it's a disadvantage is if you saw that Skelturix video and you're like "ZOMG I WANT SOLO SIFFRAIDZ."

Yes, it's an annoyance if you're trying to do that, but if you are, just like...don't use his special. You're trying to kill him off ASAP anyway so it won't make much difference.

When he has the zeta he has no need to taunt as attacking anyone else if preferable from a defensive standpoint. The omega ability should REMOVE the ability to taunt, that way if you want him to tank, don’t invest in the zeta that will be useless and don’t invest in the omega. As it stands, you are better in the long run to leave an ability at a lower level which is not WAI

...I mean, again, if you don’t want him to taunt just don’t use the special. It’s not that hard.

Kinda hard for me to not use the special when the ai is playing my team on defense bro.

I don't think you understand how this works. "I would rather someone attack any other clone." Well yeah, obviously. The problem is if I go in to fight your team guess what? I'm not dumb enough to attack 'any other clone.' I'm going to attack Fives whether or not he has taunt because that's the way to beat that team when it is on defense.

However if Fives does have taunt, he has 100% more defense and is harder for me to kill. It also makes Echo have 100% more offense. So if you don't have the omega and I go in to fight your team I'm going to have a much easier time than if I attacked someone else's team who does have the omega.

And if you're using the team on offense, then just don't use the special and the AI will attack the weaker clones