Response

"Kiritoismyname;c-1669112" wrote:

"Mik_Prat_Rel;c-1669049" wrote:

"CaptainRex;d-184729" wrote:
Safe to say a large majority of the playerbase is unhappy (to put it VERY mildly) with Revan. Has there been any dev response yet?

Most SWGOH players do not participate on this forum, have never expressed an opinion about Revan’s requirements. And yet you presume to know the thoughts and feelings of a “large majority” of people you’ve never met or even heard a word from. Try to become more comfortable speaking for yourself instead of hiding in a crowd you’ve imagined and claim to be real.

Ahnald(probably the most prominent GC), held a poll on youtube in which 18k people voted. 75% of which, voted, they were upset with how revan was being rolled out. I'd argue thats quite a large number of crowd(test subjects) to draw assumptions from.

That last statement's pretty powerful. But here it seems to make a mockery of you.

And as i speak for myself; Yes, i'm upset with how revan is being rolled out.

Ahnaldt101 speaks about the poll in the following video, for those interested (I searched it out since you didn’t include a link): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJqUOa6hWc

He is careful to point out that the poll does not represent the entire playerbase, and maybe is not even necessarily representative of his own subscriber base. He himself says that he is in between being upset and not caring.

I would add that, although 15% of poll respondents said they don’t care, this category is actually much, much larger because players who don’t care would be less likely to join this poll or seek out this video.

While obviously many people are upset, it isn’t right to claim that “unhappy” is a mild description of the feelings of a “large majority” of the entire playerbase, when you just don’t know that.

Ahnaldt101 points out that he doesn’t know that.

You know what the best response to all the Revan issues would be... the one thing that could bring balance to the game and then, while there will always be those whom complain, should mitigate about 90 % of the complaints that this all really stems from?

Here's a novel and logical, so ultimately rejected idea by CG/EA:

Why not reshuffle all f2p into ONLY f2p squad arena and fleet arena shards, that way everyone can actually be in a shard that is competitive for the type of financial commitment you have in the game.

This would allow f2p to compete against like players and p2p now actually have to deal with other p2p.

DOING THAT... would mostly stop people complaining. That would certainly eliminate a lot of the 'unfairness' aspect about how characters are released, because lets face it, CG/EA is NOT going to change their business practices. No amount of complaining will make them change their ways.

And just so we are all on the same page here, the reasons CG/EA will give for never doing something like this will be, although never will it be publicly stated, is doing that while keeping the game more competitive and fair would also cause them to lose a sizable portion of the player base whose impatience makes them spend money to get ahead.

Make no mistake, whether you agree with it or not, CG/EA wants MONEY period. All other considerations are secondary.

Once you understand and accept it as part of the game, u can sort of enjoy the rest of what the game offers.

"Nauros;c-1669123" wrote:

"Kiritoismyname;c-1669112" wrote:

"Mik_Prat_Rel;c-1669049" wrote:

"CaptainRex;d-184729" wrote:
Safe to say a large majority of the playerbase is unhappy (to put it VERY mildly) with Revan. Has there been any dev response yet?

Most SWGOH players do not participate on this forum, have never expressed an opinion about Revan’s requirements. And yet you presume to know the thoughts and feelings of a “large majority” of people you’ve never met or even heard a word from. Try to become more comfortable speaking for yourself instead of hiding in a crowd you’ve imagined and claim to be real.

Ahnald(probably the most prominent GC), held a poll on youtube in which 18k people voted. 75% of which, voted, they were upset with how revan was being rolled out. I'd argue thats quite a large number of crowd(test subjects) to draw assumptions from.

That last statement's pretty powerful. But here it seems to make a mockery of you.

And as i speak for myself; Yes, i'm upset with how revan is being rolled out.

People watching the gamechangers are still the very invested minority, though. On the other hand, my guess would be that in the casual crowd, people are mostly either upset or indifferent, but I have no data to back it up.

In my casual guild of 45 people, around 40 of them don’t even know who Revan is or don’t care much about him, and pretty much no one is upset (maybe one or two mildly disappointed including me). We are like 3 to go to the forum and relay information, otherwise most of them don’t know what’s happening or when. They usually get things the third or fourth time they come around. Even the more « serious » casuals just go from project to project one at a time and care very little about special events unless they specifically fit into their plan.
Just my experience, not drawing any conclusions from it.

"SithLordB1977;c-1669145" wrote:
You know what the best response to all the Revan issues would be... the one thing that could bring balance to the game and then, while there will always be those whom complain, should mitigate about 90 % of the complaints that this all really stems from?

Here's a novel and logical, so ultimately rejected idea by CG/EA:

Why not reshuffle all f2p into ONLY f2p squad arena and fleet arena shards, that way everyone can actually be in a shard that is competitive for the type of financial commitment you have in the game.

This would allow f2p to compete against like players and p2p now actually have to deal with other p2p.

DOING THAT... would mostly stop people complaining. That would certainly eliminate a lot of the 'unfairness' aspect about how characters are released, because lets face it, CG/EA is NOT going to change their business practices. No amount of complaining will make them change their ways.

And just so we are all on the same page here, the reasons CG/EA will give for never doing something like this will be, although never will it be publicly stated, is doing that while keeping the game more competitive and fair would also cause them to lose a sizable portion of the player base whose impatience makes them spend money to get ahead.

Make no mistake, whether you agree with it or not, CG/EA wants MONEY period. All other considerations are secondary.

Once you understand and accept it as part of the game, u can sort of enjoy the rest of what the game offers.

This is incredibly naive, all of it.

@Austin09370 Can you explain how it's naive? I basically said it would never come to pass, but it could alleviate some of the frustration the player base has.

"SithLordB1977;c-1669163" wrote:
@Austin09370 Can you explain how it's naive? I basically said it would never come to pass, but it could alleviate some of the frustration the player base has.

People pay to be the best. If paying didn’t make them the best because they were only competing against others who paid, they wouldn’t pay anymore.

I have spent plenty of money on this game over the years but an event like this gives little hope to people unless they are willing to drop hundreds at once. Having an event like this scares away a lot of people from even trying to unlock Revan and therefore they wont sell as many packs IMO. If the end is so far away it is unobtainable then people wont even try. I know I am not going to this time around.

I was pretty angry the way they did this event early on but I have mellowed out now and realize they don't want my money so I wont give it to them. Might just go FTP from here on out, we shall see.

"Germi;c-1669045" wrote:
48h of silence is a PR disaster.
I am not quite sure what is going on.
@CG_SBCrumb you are the community manager ... please step up !

Nothing they can say will make an ounce of difference to you guys, so why would they?
I don't know if you've been watching, but this cycle of waning and waxing anger has been going on for years. This game exists to be full of microtransactions, which means they'll continue to design the game in such a way as to convince you to spend money. Why be surprised?

I mean, I think the anger is 100% justified. But expecting them to respond is weird. They MAY respond, and they might even offer a carrot, but ultimately their aim won't change. Which means they'll continue to annoy people and the cycle continues.

"Ultra;c-1669081" wrote:
Nothing warrants a response. They told you the start date of the event and the requirements. That's all that needs to be said.

No they told us part of the requirements. 7 star old republic. We knew that to get any event character youd ultimately need 7 star.

They just confirmed no 5 star or 6 star unlocks, 7 or bust... but i didnt need that to farm like id need 7 star kotor to get the character up to 7 star.

Now what i need to know is will this be like jtr and cls or will it be like chewy for gear.

That would be very helpful to know upfront. If they told me that and event length, then id agree with you. Im going to assume 1 week... but i cant assume gear.

"SithLordB1977;c-1669145" wrote:
You know what the best response to all the Revan issues would be... the one thing that could bring balance to the game and then, while there will always be those whom complain, should mitigate about 90 % of the complaints that this all really stems from?

Here's a novel and logical, so ultimately rejected idea by CG/EA:

Why not reshuffle all f2p into ONLY f2p squad arena and fleet arena shards, that way everyone can actually be in a shard that is competitive for the type of financial commitment you have in the game.

This would allow f2p to compete against like players and p2p now actually have to deal with other p2p.

DOING THAT... would mostly stop people complaining. That would certainly eliminate a lot of the 'unfairness' aspect about how characters are released, because lets face it, CG/EA is NOT going to change their business practices. No amount of complaining will make them change their ways.

And just so we are all on the same page here, the reasons CG/EA will give for never doing something like this will be, although never will it be publicly stated, is doing that while keeping the game more competitive and fair would also cause them to lose a sizable portion of the player base whose impatience makes them spend money to get ahead.

Make no mistake, whether you agree with it or not, CG/EA wants MONEY period. All other considerations are secondary.

Once you understand and accept it as part of the game, u can sort of enjoy the rest of what the game offers.

What? So u want them to put all of the people who don’t pay anything in together to make it fairer to them and the company (in this case CG) foot the bill( because it costs to run things on a server) yeah that is simply not how the world works. Think about what problem that would cause? Complaining from people who don’t spend is just noise