Reva Mission

@StarSon
Mods are not the only way to minimize the impact of RNG on a mission. Planning ahead for multiple possibilities and maintaining strategic and tactical flexibility are key. If you've ever watched runs on the 50ShardsOfKAM Discord server, you'd know what I mean. Plans within plans.

@ pretty much everyone:

PLEASE be aware that the Scav tag relating to Thermals is NOT the only possible tagging problem.

I suggested to someone that the problem might be the missing GL tag on JMK in p2. Currently JMK is affected by %health damage from DoTs and Torture and is also able to be stunned. People with programming/codemining knowledge have confirmed the GL ability tag is missing entirely.

If this is the tag that they're fixing, it would make p2 more difficult, but right now p2 is entirely trivial.

IMO if this is the tag that they're fixing, it's a good thing. P2 is supposed to be an incredible fighter, and yet in this mission killing JMK is like clubbing baby seals. The addition of the GL tag would force you to kill him with your own attacks rather than watch him die from DoTs.

Yes, that would make it harder. No it would not make it impossible. I doubt my own win rate would go down at all.

So... while I join everyone in saying that thermals would be a catastrophe at the given Potency of Scav and with other factors held steady, this is NOT the only tagging issue in the mission and we should not assume that this is what's getting "fixed".

It might be. Feel free to doomsay if you like. But it's not at all confirmed, given the absence of the GL tag.

"MasterSeedy;c-2403237" wrote:
@StarSon
Mods are not the only way to minimize the impact of RNG on a mission. Planning ahead for multiple possibilities and maintaining strategic and tactical flexibility are key. If you've ever watched runs on the 50ShardsOfKAM Discord server, you'd know what I mean. Plans within plans.

Sure, but this mission is nothing like KAM. There's not turn order or move choices in response to things that can save you from 20 thermals.

Though I didn't know about the GL tag thing, so maybe it's that. If only CG would communicate clearly.

I'm sure that's what Seedy means, but it's just not possible. Scav has 181% potency. This makes it impossible to put enough tenacity on to make a difference. There is no strategy to get around this, unless your strategy is "don't hit them but still kill them."

I do think thermals would be a disaster.



Edited to remove a portion of this comment that became obviously redundant with StarSon's post that occurred while I was writing it.

Though I didn't know about the GL tag thing, so maybe it's that.

I only just made contact with someone about my idea less than an hour ago, and it was more recently than that they got confirmation, so no one could reasonably expect anyone to know about that. Everyone knew about the thermals, not everyone realized JMK's GL tag wasn't working, much less that the tag was absent in the code.

I'm seriously crossing my fingers for that one.

If only CG would communicate clearly.

Prexactly.

"scuba;c-2403232" wrote:

This has not been fully tested as it was not supposed to be in this release and may cause issues during battle. Or it may not. We haven't tested it.

Great quote

"TVF;c-2403243" wrote:
Why do you have to drop 7th

Presumably because she would kill herself with thermals from her constant assists.

Herd Nerfer has it.

You'd be much better off with one powerful attack per turn than with constant assists.

You do have to wonder, what would have been the harm in providing just a little more detail so we don't have to guess at this. I'm having a hard time finding what advantage is gained by not disclosing which tagging issue they're "fixing".

@CG_Tusken_Meathead any chance we could get a little clarification so that guilds can prepare to change strategy if necessary?

This is plain ridiculous to fix just as some guilds are unlocking.

This is simply too late. You can’t unring this bell.

"Jakdnels;c-2403210" wrote:
What a clown show. Just a joke at this point. Almost everything is broken on release.

Only CG is capable of surprising us with the level of incompetence they manage. Not because we don’t expect it from them, but because they continue to outdo themselves regularly.