SEE definitely needs a buff!

"dgree;c-2183766" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2183569" wrote:
I have to wonder how many of these complaints can be attributed to people not choosing complementary teammates and modding him badly, as opposed to him actually being as bad as everyone wants to believe he is.

I agree that SEE (and JKL for that matter) isn't as strong as Rey or Kylo, but mine with no ult and still missing a zeta has gotten multiple holds in GA just leading a decent Traya trio and a g12 Sith Empire Trooper, which isn't exactly squad arena material. I'd hardly relegate that to the trash bin.

I also wonder how many of these complaints are stemming from the stupid Ahnald video of a full R7 trooper team, which most people don't have, mowing down an SEE with no tanks, which is just a garbage comp and deserves to lose on defense.

The complaints are generally stemming from SEE users, not Ahnald videos. Some of the top Sith players with the best Sith rosters and usually amazing mods have been trying since release to make SEE not bad, but unfortunately SEE is kinda bad. GA/TW holds are nice but a lot of things get GA holds. My g11 bastila got a hold last GA round.

The troopers counter didn't start with Ahnald and if you understand how they work, you understand they do fine against tanks.

7.1M GP player. All my sith (except for a few older ones) are r7 with some of my best mods. I don't watch Ahnald or most of the YouTube for my own reasons (drama abuse mainly).

I've tried thrawn in as well as some other random options like GBA ect.

In every scenario (except fighting GML) SEE lead is far far worse then most other sith leads.. or my SLKR leading 4 sith...