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ordo801st
Rising Veteran
2 days ago

Should their be more users of Saber Forms???

I have a feeling that this may or maynot have been talked about. But we have, KI-Adi-Mundi with both a Blue like buff of either Ataru Form, and Makashi Form. They both do different things that help the character out one way or another. But I feel a unique buff being added to various Saber user characters could benefit. Here is what each of those 2 state. 

Ataru Form: +100% Offense, +30% Defense Penetration, and +20 Speed

Makashi Form: +100% counter chance, +60% Tenacity, and Critical Hit Immunity

Side note on all this post some Forms can be changed to balance the character if needed. I am mostly aiming to point out what some forms have been used by certain characters. Sometimes adding characters back to the Basic Shii-Cho Form would balance them better than another Form. 

 

Now I can see some characters gaining more than one but also gaining a master version of the Form. Like in Dooku's instance he would have a Master form but with added or doubled of certain stats. I have my take on some of the Forms but I know CG will choose their own set up.  I personally feel a few of the Master Forms should have a speed gain. Only one I see getting Speed before master form is the Ataru Form since it is a speedy all over the place Form, well that and maybe Juyo. Here is my takes on basic and master forms of each. Also a side note, if Dooku gained a Master version of Makashi, his kit would have to change a bit to fit in this Form change but it wouldn't be much. He would loose and regain the 100% counter chance as an example. But adding more stats to him will help him out in the long run. 

Shii-Cho Form: +20% Offense and +20% Defense.

Master Shii-Cho Form: +40% Offense, +40% Defense and 20 Speed. 

Master Makashi Form: +100% counter chance, +50% Counter Damage, +100% Tenacity, and Critical Hit Immunity.

Soresu Form: +20% Defense, +20% Protection, and +20% Tenacity.

Master Soresu Form: +40% Defense, +40% Health Steal, +40% Protection, and +40% Tenacity.

Master Ataru Form: +100% Offense, +40% Defense Penetration, +30% Accuracy, and +30 Speed

Master Jinn's Ataru Form: 70% Offense, +40% Defense Penetration, +35 Tenacity, +30% Accuracy, and +20 Speed.

Shein Form: +35% Counter Chance, and has Retaliate.

Master Shein Form: +70% Counter Chance, +20% Accuracy, and has Retaliate.

Djem So Form: +50% Counter Chance, +20% Critical Avoidance, +20% Critical Chance, and +20% Critical Damage.

Master Djem So Form: +50% Counter Chance, +40% Critical Avoidance, +40% Critical Chance, and +40% Critical Damage.

Niman Form: +20% Accuracy, +20% Critical Avoidance, +20% Potency, and +20% Tenacity.

Master Niman Form: +40% Accuracy, +40% Critical Avoidance, +40% Potency, and +40% Tenacity, and +25% Health Steal.

Juyo Form: +30% Defense Penetration, +15 Speed, and -30% Defense, -25% Tenacity.

Master Juyo Form: +45% Defense Penetration, +40% Potency, +20 Speed, -20% Defense, and -20% Tenacity. 

Vaapad Form: +20% Offense, +20% Critical Chance, +20% Critical Damage.

Master Vaapad Form: +40% Offense, +40% Critical Chance, +40% Critical Damage.

Here is my thoughts on those. Some stats are doubled and some are trippled or added. I also in Juyo gave both positive and negative stats. Kind of like the Ferocity debuff. Basically gave the super aggressive style some negatives to give more positive stats. Ill post bellow a list of various characters getting various styles. Now I understand this could also boost the older game starting characters from back in 2016 with the release of it but even boosting certain newer characters. Im sure CG would balance the characters out with the stats they currently have plus the stats they could gain from this unique buff. What are your thoughts on what characters getting various buffs???

 

 

 

3 Replies

  • dipansini's avatar
    dipansini
    New Traveler
    1 day ago

    Cin Drallig, when added to the game, could easily be able to switch to a majority of these Forms given that he’s Battlemaster 

  • ordo801st's avatar
    ordo801st
    Rising Veteran
    1 day ago

    True, or that version could be Commander Ahsoka's of Shien. I will say I did miss that one for sure. But it also only stays for 4 turns instead of permanently, like Ki-Adi-Mindi's 2 forms, aside from Form Swapping. 

    Yeah Niman would work great that way too as well. And the Master one would be +10% stats but 5 to 10 speed not 5% to 10% would probably be more balanced. I can say Master Niman from your version would make sense on Sith Eternal, aside from he doesn't have saber forms. But still getting all those stats would still help Sith Eternal since he needs some touch up love from over the years. 

  • we already have Shien Form

    Shien Form: Whenever this unit evades, or attacks out of turn, Commander Ahsoka Tano's Force Leap cooldown is reduced by 1 and damage is increased by 50% (stacking) until the next time it is used

    this idea sounds cool ig but other than that, I don't like Niman, it is supposed to be the balanced one, not too strong but not too weak, so imo it should be +5% all stats (Health, Protection, Speed, Potency, Tenacity, Offense, Defense, Defense Penetration, Critical Damage, Critical Chance, Critical Avoidance, Accuracy, Evasion, Health Steal)

     

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