Sith assassin = Sith STH

"Kyno;913749" wrote:

"Vertigo;913486" wrote:
AI prioritizes Dark Shroud, at least when she has no buffs already. I can see what she prioritizes if she has a buff already. But yeah, put her under a Zaul lead with the starting 20% TM she can make all the sith go first and destroy other teams.

From my understanding of zaul, it's a +25% speed, you don't need her to make all sith go first.

If I use her in that team I would have her go "last" or close to it to give them a push on a second round of attacks.

Maul gives bonus turn meter, not speed. And since zaul is quickly becoming the meta, you need the extra turn meter bump so your team goes before the opponent's sith

"DatBoi;913758" wrote:

"Kyno;913749" wrote:

"Vertigo;913486" wrote:
AI prioritizes Dark Shroud, at least when she has no buffs already. I can see what she prioritizes if she has a buff already. But yeah, put her under a Zaul lead with the starting 20% TM she can make all the sith go first and destroy other teams.

From my understanding of zaul, it's a +25% speed, you don't need her to make all sith go first.

If I use her in that team I would have her go "last" or close to it to give them a push on a second round of attacks.

Maul gives bonus turn meter, not speed. And since zaul is quickly becoming the meta, you need the extra turn meter bump so your team goes before the opponent's sith

Yes but the calculation of what 20% tm is works out to +25% speed in the first round. I guess that's true, but we will see.

Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

"Tactyou;913820" wrote:
Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

If she uses Dark Shroud without debuffs, she still gains foresight and stealth/tenacity and speed, and sith allies still gain turn meter from those buffs.

"DatBoi;913830" wrote:

"Tactyou;913820" wrote:
Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

If she uses Dark Shroud without debuffs, she still gains foresight and stealth/tenacity and speed, and sith allies still gain turn meter from those buffs.

Thanks mate. I still have to level her up, but seems you want her stealth to maximize the tm gain?

"Tactyou;913836" wrote:

"DatBoi;913830" wrote:

"Tactyou;913820" wrote:
Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

If she uses Dark Shroud without debuffs, she still gains foresight and stealth/tenacity and speed, and sith allies still gain turn meter from those buffs.

Thanks mate. I still have to level her up, but seems you want her stealth to maximize the tm gain?

Dark Shroud automatically gives her at least two buffs including stealth before it gives turn meter so you dont have to worry about making sure she already has any buffs beforehand. You just have to watch out for shock and buff immunity.

"DatBoi;913842" wrote:

"Tactyou;913836" wrote:

"DatBoi;913830" wrote:

"Tactyou;913820" wrote:
Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

If she uses Dark Shroud without debuffs, she still gains foresight and stealth/tenacity and speed, and sith allies still gain turn meter from those buffs.

Thanks mate. I still have to level her up, but seems you want her stealth to maximize the tm gain?

Dark Shroud automatically gives her at least two buffs including stealth before it gives turn meter so you dont have to worry about making sure she already has any buffs beforehand. You just have to watch out for shock and buff immunity.

Yeah, that's true. Thanks again

"Kyno;913809" wrote:

"DatBoi;913758" wrote:

"Kyno;913749" wrote:

"Vertigo;913486" wrote:
AI prioritizes Dark Shroud, at least when she has no buffs already. I can see what she prioritizes if she has a buff already. But yeah, put her under a Zaul lead with the starting 20% TM she can make all the sith go first and destroy other teams.

From my understanding of zaul, it's a +25% speed, you don't need her to make all sith go first.

If I use her in that team I would have her go "last" or close to it to give them a push on a second round of attacks.

Maul gives bonus turn meter, not speed. And since zaul is quickly becoming the meta, you need the extra turn meter bump so your team goes before the opponent's sith

Yes but the calculation of what 20% tm is works out to +25% speed in the first round. I guess that's true, but we will see.

Nihilus is extremely slow relative to a lot of other characters in game though, so in order to push Nihilus to the start before a well modded Boba or an enemy EP you're going to want SA to bump TM. If you give her enough of your speed mods from the start you could get it so that you're not "wasting" any/too much TM from her skill in that your characters will still have the whole 24/36% extra boost on your opponents. (If it's a Zaul lead she'll give 36% TM, other leads that don't start with buffs will give 24%).

I'm hoping maybe 1k crystals

"Tactyou;913848" wrote:

"DatBoi;913842" wrote:

"Tactyou;913836" wrote:

"DatBoi;913830" wrote:

"Tactyou;913820" wrote:
Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

If she uses Dark Shroud without debuffs, she still gains foresight and stealth/tenacity and speed, and sith allies still gain turn meter from those buffs.

Thanks mate. I still have to level her up, but seems you want her stealth to maximize the tm gain?

Dark Shroud automatically gives her at least two buffs including stealth before it gives turn meter so you dont have to worry about making sure she already has any buffs beforehand. You just have to watch out for shock and buff immunity.

Yeah, that's true. Thanks again

You may also want to look at Daze as well.

Personally I would have her go slowest in a zMaul team just because everyone already gets TM so they'd normally go first. I'd say the only exception would be when your fighting another zMaul team

"Athusk;914253" wrote:
I'm hoping maybe 1k crystals

"Tactyou;913848" wrote:

"DatBoi;913842" wrote:

"Tactyou;913836" wrote:

"DatBoi;913830" wrote:

"Tactyou;913820" wrote:
Question, so sith assassin doesn't need to have a debuff to take advantage of her dark shroud? She can use all the benefits from her dark shroud even with no debuffs?

If she uses Dark Shroud without debuffs, she still gains foresight and stealth/tenacity and speed, and sith allies still gain turn meter from those buffs.

Thanks mate. I still have to level her up, but seems you want her stealth to maximize the tm gain?

Dark Shroud automatically gives her at least two buffs including stealth before it gives turn meter so you dont have to worry about making sure she already has any buffs beforehand. You just have to watch out for shock and buff immunity.

Yeah, that's true. Thanks again

You may also want to look at Daze as well.

Personally I would have her go slowest in a zMaul team just because everyone already gets TM so they'd normally go first. I'd say the only exception would be when your fighting another zMaul team

That's the same sentiment also. No point getting her fast if you're the only one running zaul. But with her bug now, I'll probably have to shelve her first.