Sith Empire/Old republic is like the Kardashians...

"LordDirt;c-1995237" wrote:
Revan is canon now.


Episode 8

Keep your eyes peeled when seeing inside Luke's home, and you'll spot a handmade pendant of leather carrying a special object. It's the red crystal used inside every Sith lightsaber, mounted inside a metal cradle as a "trophy" of sorts. Most viewers may assume that it's the power source of Darth Vader's lightsaber - a reminder to Luke of the darkness that consumed his father (or a relic too valuable to fall into ignorant hands).

But the canonical name of the object, as revealed in Star Wars: The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary, reveals a different past. The gem is still a "fragmented Sith lightsaber crystal," but it didn't belong to Luke or his father. It's a "recovered Jedi Crusader pendant" - which refers to only one corner of Star Wars canon.

The term "Jedi Crusader" might sound fairly generic, but the lack of actual "crusades" waged by the monks makes it a specific term in the bigger picture. Those who played through the original Knights of the Old Republic video game know this story already. Around 5,000 years before the Star Wars movies the Mandalorians became a galactic threat under the leadership of a new "Mandalore the Ultimate." Conquering worlds in honor of the ancient Mandalorian Crusaders, these "Neo-Crusaders" were just the kind of growing, military threat that the Jedi... completely ignored. But not one: one young Jedi Knight promoted armed resistance and revanchism (the act of re-conquering Republic worlds and territory).

He would come to be known as Revan because of his charismatic campaign, and his followers the Revanchists. But to the galactic masses, his opposition to Mandalore gave him a different title: the Jedi's very own "Crusader." The story that followed is generally seen as one of the most acclaimed, compelling, and important ones to come from the Star Wars Extended Universe. Told in video games, comics, and novels, the life of Revan and the impact he had on the galaxy was one of the most painful to see erased as non-canonical Star Wars "Legend."

Until Luke Skywalker went digging into the history of the Jedi... and came out with a trinket with Revan's name on it.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-darth-revan-easter-egg/

Revan is not canon. Only Darth Bane is canon. But only what we know about Darth Bane from canon material is canon.
Darth Bane from EU and canon version of Darth Bane are different characters.

Same as with Grand Admiral Thrawn. Canon and legends/EU Grand Admiral Thrawn are two different characters with different backstory.

KOTOR content has been incredibly boring and broken imho. The Jolee revive mechanism was awful to start but with DR the ridiculous nature of power creep just became totally stupid. Now everything seems so terrible when it comes out. We used to get characters that were good come that didn’t really tip the balance a couple years ago. They also gave new assault battles and othe PVE content back then. Too bad things have become so stagnant and uninteresting. Quality has also went down the drain. Just look at the last few glitch filled months. Pathetic, terrible garbage...

"LordDirt;c-1995237" wrote:
Revan is canon now.


Episode 8

Keep your eyes peeled when seeing inside Luke's home, and you'll spot a handmade pendant of leather carrying a special object. It's the red crystal used inside every Sith lightsaber, mounted inside a metal cradle as a "trophy" of sorts. Most viewers may assume that it's the power source of Darth Vader's lightsaber - a reminder to Luke of the darkness that consumed his father (or a relic too valuable to fall into ignorant hands).

But the canonical name of the object, as revealed in Star Wars: The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary, reveals a different past. The gem is still a "fragmented Sith lightsaber crystal," but it didn't belong to Luke or his father. It's a "recovered Jedi Crusader pendant" - which refers to only one corner of Star Wars canon.

The term "Jedi Crusader" might sound fairly generic, but the lack of actual "crusades" waged by the monks makes it a specific term in the bigger picture. Those who played through the original Knights of the Old Republic video game know this story already. Around 5,000 years before the Star Wars movies the Mandalorians became a galactic threat under the leadership of a new "Mandalore the Ultimate." Conquering worlds in honor of the ancient Mandalorian Crusaders, these "Neo-Crusaders" were just the kind of growing, military threat that the Jedi... completely ignored. But not one: one young Jedi Knight promoted armed resistance and revanchism (the act of re-conquering Republic worlds and territory).

He would come to be known as Revan because of his charismatic campaign, and his followers the Revanchists. But to the galactic masses, his opposition to Mandalore gave him a different title: the Jedi's very own "Crusader." The story that followed is generally seen as one of the most acclaimed, compelling, and important ones to come from the Star Wars Extended Universe. Told in video games, comics, and novels, the life of Revan and the impact he had on the galaxy was one of the most painful to see erased as non-canonical Star Wars "Legend."

Until Luke Skywalker went digging into the history of the Jedi... and came out with a trinket with Revan's name on it.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-darth-revan-easter-egg/

He’s right. Check it. While other Old Republic stuff isn’t canon right now, Revan is, as well as Bane whom Yoda meets in the Clone Wars (Lost Missions).

This thread is why I avoid the forums these days. People that hate other people for characters that they individually like.

Sure KOTOR 1 and 2 are meta for about a year and a half now, and will be very prevalent for awhile to come. But in the end this was for several reasons.

First, everyone knows that KOTOR has a huge fan base and CG knew they could take advantage of this by charging insane paywalls for them. In order for this to work, they had to be OP, else the KOTOR fans wouldn't whale on them.

Second, CG used to be owned by Bioware, the guys that made Revan in the first place, and are currently owned by EA that publishes SWTOR, another game set in the old republic universe, as well as owns Bioware, the creators of KOTOR and Revan. A lot of people like sharing that existing IP within EA.

Third, even though Disney declassified Revan AMD kotor for the moment from their official canon, that doesn't mean that these characters don't have huge fanbases. Everything is make believing in star wars anyways. And just because it isn't canon now, doesn't mean that Disney can't change their mind and remake it into canon, which has been hinted at by several people in LucasArts. This is a non-argument for this.

Fourth, We all know that this meta is coming to an end. The characters in this game hardly have their power based on technical in universe power. There is no way han solo could beat any light saber wielding person in the game, yet he is one of the strongest in the game. Yet we all accept this. The reason CG makes every meta stronger than the last is to make it so you have to buy in. The 7* general skywalker meta is coming soon, and he is OP as they come. I'm sure CG has plenty more OP where that comes from. When Grand Master Mary Rey comes to the game, I'm sure she will be so OP that GAS will quell in fear, even though we don't probably agree with that as a fandom. So just stop bringing this complaint.

I'm off to reddit where I can downvote posts like these.

"CadoaBane;c-1993227" wrote:

"BrashSchwartz;c-1993091" wrote:

"CadoaBane;c-1991807" wrote:

"Thumper8842;c-1991779" wrote:

"GBahia03;c-1991656" wrote:
Umm

Ok so i guess jedi lords and arguably the strongest user of the force ever (Revan) shouldnt be strong because hey, rebels with guns that go pew would definitely be stronger.

Non Canon

Crylo and MaRey Sue are considered canon. I will always prefer the Old Republic characters in any form.

As opposed to Mary Luke? Get your head checked, son.

While Rey is portrayed to be good at everything she starts, even flying the Falcon even though she can never have piloted such a ship before in her life - or any ship at all.

That specifically is a tough argument. SW portrays pretty much anybody to be capable to pilot anything.

Anakin piloting half of a burning Separatist Capital ship to safety? Sure.

C3PO can you take over this Naboo freighter for me? Yeah why not.

Luke have you flown an X-Wing before? Or any type of fighter? No? You’ll be fine Biggs can help you out. Oh while you’re at it, go ahead and escape the exploding Death Star very quickly in this Imperial Shuttle whilst carrying your dead father.

Rey piloting the Falcon fits in perfectly haha.

"mesa176750;c-1996158" wrote:
This thread is why I avoid the forums these days. People that hate other people for characters that they individually like.

Sure KOTOR 1 and 2 are meta for about a year and a half now, and will be very prevalent for awhile to come. But in the end this was for several reasons.

First, everyone knows that KOTOR has a huge fan base and CG knew they could take advantage of this by charging insane paywalls for them. In order for this to work, they had to be OP, else the KOTOR fans wouldn't whale on them.

Second, CG used to be owned by Bioware, the guys that made Revan in the first place, and are currently owned by EA that publishes SWTOR, another game set in the old republic universe, as well as owns Bioware, the creators of KOTOR and Revan. A lot of people like sharing that existing IP within EA.

Third, even though Disney declassified Revan AMD kotor for the moment from their official canon, that doesn't mean that these characters don't have huge fanbases. Everything is make believing in star wars anyways. And just because it isn't canon now, doesn't mean that Disney can't change their mind and remake it into canon, which has been hinted at by several people in LucasArts. This is a non-argument for this.

Fourth, We all know that this meta is coming to an end. The characters in this game hardly have their power based on technical in universe power. There is no way han solo could beat any light saber wielding person in the game, yet he is one of the strongest in the game. Yet we all accept this. The reason CG makes every meta stronger than the last is to make it so you have to buy in. The 7* general skywalker meta is coming soon, and he is OP as they come. I'm sure CG has plenty more OP where that comes from. When Grand Master Mary Rey comes to the game, I'm sure she will be so OP that GAS will quell in fear, even though we don't probably agree with that as a fandom. So just stop bringing this complaint.

I'm off to reddit where I can downvote posts like these.

People hate people when they dont think the same as them.

The whole internet is corrupt

"Tattz;c-1993086" wrote:


Look at all those incredibly strong OR toons that rule the game .......... oh wait ??

Their laziness to not update the opening image doesn't mean anything other than they clearly don't know how to manage a game. Something that has become quite clear recently. They have fantastic artists who are seemingly underutilized.

"trevyclause;c-1996152" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-1995237" wrote:
Revan is canon now.


Episode 8

Keep your eyes peeled when seeing inside Luke's home, and you'll spot a handmade pendant of leather carrying a special object. It's the red crystal used inside every Sith lightsaber, mounted inside a metal cradle as a "trophy" of sorts. Most viewers may assume that it's the power source of Darth Vader's lightsaber - a reminder to Luke of the darkness that consumed his father (or a relic too valuable to fall into ignorant hands).

But the canonical name of the object, as revealed in Star Wars: The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary, reveals a different past. The gem is still a "fragmented Sith lightsaber crystal," but it didn't belong to Luke or his father. It's a "recovered Jedi Crusader pendant" - which refers to only one corner of Star Wars canon.

The term "Jedi Crusader" might sound fairly generic, but the lack of actual "crusades" waged by the monks makes it a specific term in the bigger picture. Those who played through the original Knights of the Old Republic video game know this story already. Around 5,000 years before the Star Wars movies the Mandalorians became a galactic threat under the leadership of a new "Mandalore the Ultimate." Conquering worlds in honor of the ancient Mandalorian Crusaders, these "Neo-Crusaders" were just the kind of growing, military threat that the Jedi... completely ignored. But not one: one young Jedi Knight promoted armed resistance and revanchism (the act of re-conquering Republic worlds and territory).

He would come to be known as Revan because of his charismatic campaign, and his followers the Revanchists. But to the galactic masses, his opposition to Mandalore gave him a different title: the Jedi's very own "Crusader." The story that followed is generally seen as one of the most acclaimed, compelling, and important ones to come from the Star Wars Extended Universe. Told in video games, comics, and novels, the life of Revan and the impact he had on the galaxy was one of the most painful to see erased as non-canonical Star Wars "Legend."

Until Luke Skywalker went digging into the history of the Jedi... and came out with a trinket with Revan's name on it.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-last-jedi-darth-revan-easter-egg/

He’s right. Check it. While other Old Republic stuff isn’t canon right now, Revan is, as well as Bane whom Yoda meets in the Clone Wars (Lost Missions).

No Old Republic stuff is canon. IDK if Bane is in those games, but if he is, he is the only canon character in them. Revan was in a deleted scene from TCW, but that does not make him canon. Some book says Luke's necklace thing is a crystal from the Jedi Crusaders, but those Jedi Crusaders are not the same guys from the OR games. So Revan's Crusader gang are not canon.

"trevyclause;c-1996152" wrote:


He’s right. Check it. While other Old Republic stuff isn’t canon right now, Revan is, as well as Bane whom Yoda meets in the Clone Wars (Lost Missions).

Revan is not canon. He is never mentioned in any canon material.

Dark Lord Jar Jar Binks is canon they just won't put him in the game because he'd kill everyone in one shot