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- ccmoose3 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Kisakee;c-2352155" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2352147" wrote:
I'm sure everyone that gets promoted mid-event will also come to the forums demanding their rewards be decreased to the division they started the event in. /s
Joking aside, CG made their rewards system this way, and they have put zero effort into messaging since the initial announcement and Q&A. It would be so cool of they hired someone whose job it is to bridge the gap between the devs and the community. A manager of the community, perhaps.
You mean like someone whose job it is to browse through forums every day for multiple hours, not only reading threads but interacting with the people, giving information about current status and things that don't work as expected plus what has been or will be done about it and even more? Sadly i've never seen a Community Manager working this way in any game but hey, maybe somewhere in the Outer Rim some day..
There is an acceptable level of interaction, I'd say, between what you described above and the almost zero communication we get now. "Ragnarok_COTF;c-2352161" wrote:
"Kisakee;c-2352155" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2352147" wrote:
I'm sure everyone that gets promoted mid-event will also come to the forums demanding their rewards be decreased to the division they started the event in. /s
Joking aside, CG made their rewards system this way, and they have put zero effort into messaging since the initial announcement and Q&A. It would be so cool of they hired someone whose job it is to bridge the gap between the devs and the community. A manager of the community, perhaps.
You mean like someone whose job it is to browse through forums every day for multiple hours, not only reading threads but interacting with the people, giving information about current status and things that don't work as expected plus what has been or will be done about it and even more? Sadly i've never seen a Community Manager working this way in any game but hey, maybe somewhere in the Outer Rim some day..
There is an acceptable level of interaction, I'd say, between what you described above and the almost zero communication we get now.
https://www.ea.com/ea-studios/capital-games/careers?setLocale=en-us
https://ea.gr8people.com/jobs/172457/senior-community-manager?locale=en- You will be the voice of the community, maintain a tight two-way dialogue between core players, studio, and your team.
- You will manage social media and presence on official EA channels, and community owned platforms.
- You will conduct surveys, research, and feedback from the community on issues and trends affecting the player experience.
- You will provide qualitative Community reports on metrics, feedback, trends, game issues, and service risks.
- You will work with Development team on overall player experience.
- You will collaborate with internal partners such as Brand, Comms, Social, and Development to ensure unified franchise plans.
- You will maintain a positive community presence and reputation.
- You will be the voice of the community, maintain a tight two-way dialogue between core players, studio, and your team.
- Can we not turn this into another “CM’s suck” thread.
Clearly they added a stealth nerf to that job description and changed the CM interaction rate with the community to 3% and this particular issue didn’t make the cut. - harvestmouse13 years agoSeasoned Ace
"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:
"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
I got demoted to K5 from K4 and my dailys has gone down."StarSon;c-2352132" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352117" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
Dailys are decreased. I just went down to K5 and my crystals decreased. I'm not 'that' bothered about this part. Being in K5, but playing vs K4 is the main thing.
Why does it matter that you're in K5 playing against K4? This part is not any different than before.
Before: you start a week with 7 opponents of essentially the same skill rating. As the week progresses, some scores go up, some scores go down. You are in the same group.
Now: you start a week with 7 opponents of essentially the same skill rating. As the week progresses, some scores go up, some scores go down. You are in the same group.
If it doesn't make sense to you, then I can't explain it. Why would you be playing somebody that isn't in the same frigging division getting different daily awards? How is this new system better in any way? - harvestmouse13 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Kisakee;c-2352145" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352117" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
Dailys are decreased. I just went down to K5 and my crystals decreased. I'm not 'that' bothered about this part. Being in K5, but playing vs K4 is the main thing.
Except daily crystals where's the difference of being demoted amidst the rounds vs after? It's the exact same, your GAC won't change either way.
How is this in any way a positive change?
If you're in the same bracket there should be zero differences. "harvestmouse;c-2352178" wrote:
"Kisakee;c-2352145" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352117" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
Dailys are decreased. I just went down to K5 and my crystals decreased. I'm not 'that' bothered about this part. Being in K5, but playing vs K4 is the main thing.
Except daily crystals where's the difference of being demoted amidst the rounds vs after? It's the exact same, your GAC won't change either way.
How is this in any way a positive change?
If you're in the same bracket there should be zero differences.
Who said that it would be a positive change? It's not negatively impacting you, you're still in the same group with the same 7 other players from the start of the GAC. So what exactly do you expect? They're not going to change your opponents in this 7-people-group every time you're getting promoted/ demoted.- M0st1yHarm1ess3 years agoSeasoned AceHere I'm calling it - they are moving towards getting rid of brackets and doing matchmaking after every round.
"harvestmouse;c-2352118" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2352069" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
They get the exact same match-ups as they would under the old system (apart from the aspect of randomness that always was there)
But they're not in the same division and getting the same daily reward. As well as the skill rating not being within the divisional bracket.
I don't see any positive reason for this change.
The crystal rewards change, yes, but they will change both when you're promoted and when you're demoted. I don't see a problem with that.
Skill rating wouldn't be within the division brackets before this change either."PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2352193" wrote:
Here I'm calling it - they are moving towards getting rid of brackets and doing matchmaking after every round.
I actually would like that. It would make more sense at least theoretically, because it could be more flowing, taking into account your actual SR and win/loss with every new match.
Edit because there was some formatting gone wrong- Persimius3 years agoSeasoned Ace
"harvestmouse;c-2352177" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352059" wrote:
"ScoundrelRui;c-2352058" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
The daily crystals will be the k3 amount
That's not how it's been working. Are you just assuming or do you have personal experience this round?
I got demoted to K5 from K4 and my dailys has gone down."StarSon;c-2352132" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352117" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-2352040" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2352039" wrote:
"BasherBeau;c-2351998" wrote:
"fluffybumpkinsohn;c-2351996" wrote:
You guys (developers) are inept. I got demoted from K2 to K3. Now if I am able to win a round I get K3 rewards and not K2 rewards, but I don't get to go against K3 level players and increase my chance of winning. Absolutely inept.
Maybe go back and re-read the announcement again, once the red mist fades? It says "These changes will not affect the opponents that the player is facing in the current event"
How have they got it wrong? They were in K2, got demoted to K3 after 1 game of the Grand Arena. They're now in K3 getting K3 rewards but have 2 more matches vs K2 opponents. Seems to me it's exactly how fluffy stated it is.
Show me where he's getting k3 rewards
Dailys are decreased. I just went down to K5 and my crystals decreased. I'm not 'that' bothered about this part. Being in K5, but playing vs K4 is the main thing.
Why does it matter that you're in K5 playing against K4? This part is not any different than before.
Before: you start a week with 7 opponents of essentially the same skill rating. As the week progresses, some scores go up, some scores go down. You are in the same group.
Now: you start a week with 7 opponents of essentially the same skill rating. As the week progresses, some scores go up, some scores go down. You are in the same group.
If it doesn't make sense to you, then I can't explain it. Why would you be playing somebody that isn't in the same frigging division getting different daily awards? How is this new system better in any way?
Why do you care what rewards others are getting? How does that affect you at all?
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