Solution to gear crunch:

"Mvnson;884183" wrote:

"Olddumper;884178" wrote:

"Darlex11;884175" wrote:

"Olddumper;884167" wrote:

I did read the thread. What I saw is some gear is more scarce than others. It makes sense. If all gear was equally scarce even amongst tiers than why even have different gear. Sorry to be buzz killington here but you can't have everything all at once.

I dont think you read it cuz what you are describing (all gear equally scarce and everyone gets everything at once) is not even remotely what is being described or asked for. Again, the gear crunch was acceptable where it is before because the cap was 60 and there wasn't the variety of game modes or need for the variety of roster that there is now. Nobody is asking (or few are anyhow) for all the gear to be just given out. What most are asking for is additional ways to work for the gear. Perhaps this is where your understanding of the suggested solutions breaks down, people are asking for extra ways to farm the gear. They want to earn it, they just want to be able to earn it in more ways.

Also with the squad you listed above you will be able to contribute 1 time to the HAAT raid. Meaning you wont have any meaningful way of contributing to any phase beyond phase 3 where you are using your palp/zader. Which tells me you are being carried by your guild if they are finishing the raid. Not everyone is willing to accept that.

My two raid teams I will run.

Zader boba Zid Phasma Shamen 3.5 mil. P2

EP TFP STH RG SF. 1 mil p3

Don't tell me you need 30 toons and that 4.5 mil on the tank isn't pulling your weight.

Bro, you only NEED five freaking toons to play. There are 103 toons in this game. If you are happy sticking with only 10 meta driven toons, then you will never have a "problem". Good for you, but the reality of this game is that just because youre content with 10 meta dictated characters on your roster, doesn't mean everyone else is doing it wrong or they don't know how to manage "scarce" resources or make decisions.

So then what is the right amount of toons for them to let us max for free?

40 ?
50 ?
60 ?
70 ?

Let's just decide on a number and tell the devs this is how much gear we need to be able to enjoy the game. They can figure out what we need and put it in two events that we do each day. One that we sim and one that we auto. Then when we all have 70 maxed gear toons and no credits and mods for them I won't hear arguing right?

"Mvnson;884200" wrote:
Your credibility shrinks with every post.

https://swgoh.gg/u/mvnson/gear-needed/

With "only" 30 toons at gear 10+ I need 49 sets of stun cuffs.

That's 2,500 stun cuffs. Start doing some math:

1. Save 200 crystals a day: buy 50 cuffs per week
2. Farm stun cuffs with all free energy and refresh reg energy twice: 12% drop rate. Yields somewhere around 8-10 more a day (generous figure)... 70 more cuffs per week
3. Buy cuffs and only cuffs from fleet shipments: 12 more cuffs a day (giving a great fleet rank despite the only thing you do is farm cuffs)....80 more cuffs a week.

So, we can spend 400 crystals and 1500 fleet tokens a day buying and farming stun cuffs, at about 200 per week. So, at having only 1/3 of the toons in this game I am 3 months behind on cuffs. Do you realize that's 3 months behind of doing NOTHING else but catching up on one currently needed piece of gear.

Go back to the list. It gets worse for the rest of the 1 billion pieces needed.

You first have to admit there's at least "a problem" before you can discuss solutions

I'm going to give you the best advice you can get. No amount of gear is going to fix the fact your best speed secondary is 13, and you only have 2 over 10. Forget about gear and start farming mods. Your G8 toons will fell like g11 with better mods.

"Mvnson;884206" wrote:

"Olddumper;884202" wrote:

"Mvnson;884200" wrote:
Your credibility shrinks with every post.

https://swgoh.gg/u/mvnson/gear-needed/

With "only" 30 toons at gear 10+ I need 49 sets of stun cuffs.

That's 2,500 stun cuffs. Start doing some math:

1. Save 200 crystals a day: buy 50 cuffs per week
2. Farm stun cuffs with all free energy and refresh reg energy twice: 12% drop rate. Yields somewhere around 8-10 more a day (generous figure)... 70 more cuffs per week
3. Buy cuffs and only cuffs from fleet shipments: 12 more cuffs a day (giving a great fleet rank despite the only thing you do is farm cuffs)....80 more cuffs a week.

So, we can spend 400 crystals and 1500 fleet tokens a day buying and farming stun cuffs, at about 200 per week. So, at having only 1/3 of the toons in this game I am 3 months behind on cuffs. Do you realize that's 3 months behind of doing NOTHING else but catching up on one currently needed piece of gear.

Go back to the list. It gets worse for the rest of the 1 billion pieces needed.

You first have to admit there's at least "a problem" before you can discuss solutions

I'm going to give you the best advice you can get. No amount of gear is going to fix the fact your best speed secondary is 13, and you only have 2 over 10. Forget about gear and start farming mods. Your G8 toons will fell like g11 with better mods.

What needs fixing? I have a gear issue. The mods are fine.

Your fastest toon is TFP at 201 speed and you have 2 dot mods on some of your arena toons.

* Turns around and leaves discussion*
* Realizes this must have been a troll*

When I was a kid I had to mow lawns and save money for those plastic little toys I slowly collected. Some magic plastic toy fairy didn't give them to me.

what great fun it would have been to have some magic plastic toy lady bring me toys and all the gear.

"MrCaptaintoyou;884236" wrote:
what great fun it would have been to have some magic plastic toy lady bring me toys and all the gear.

Clearly he won't be happy until the devs gear all of his plastic figurines to g12 for him.

"Mvnson;884229" wrote:

"Olddumper;884202" wrote:

"Mvnson;884200" wrote:
Your credibility shrinks with every post.

https://swgoh.gg/u/mvnson/gear-needed/

With "only" 30 toons at gear 10+ I need 49 sets of stun cuffs.

That's 2,500 stun cuffs. Start doing some math:

1. Save 200 crystals a day: buy 50 cuffs per week
2. Farm stun cuffs with all free energy and refresh reg energy twice: 12% drop rate. Yields somewhere around 8-10 more a day (generous figure)... 70 more cuffs per week
3. Buy cuffs and only cuffs from fleet shipments: 12 more cuffs a day (giving a great fleet rank despite the only thing you do is farm cuffs)....80 more cuffs a week.

So, we can spend 400 crystals and 1500 fleet tokens a day buying and farming stun cuffs, at about 200 per week. So, at having only 1/3 of the toons in this game I am 3 months behind on cuffs. Do you realize that's 3 months behind of doing NOTHING else but catching up on one currently needed piece of gear.

Go back to the list. It gets worse for the rest of the 1 billion pieces needed.

You first have to admit there's at least "a problem" before you can discuss solutions

I'm going to give you the best advice you can get. No amount of gear is going to fix the fact your best speed secondary is 13, and you only have 2 over 10. Forget about gear and start farming mods. Your G8 toons will fell like g11 with better mods.

Seriously, are you man enough to admit you're wrong and that there is actually a problem with the gear economy?

Also, my mods are perfectly powerful enough for everything but holding down top 10 in arena. I'm farming for quantity, I have more than 10 toons to mod. I get to #1 easily enough when I "try-hard" as my schedule permits, but I'm not an arena player. I don't like it. I actually have things to do everyday at 6 pm est (either eating dinner with my kids or taking them to their school sports or lifting weights). I cannot and will not play this game every day at that exact time because it wants me too. We don't get to choose this time or have any say in it but that's another complaint.

Look, I see your rank history, and we both know exactly what your life is like. This game controls you. For the last 15 months or however long you've been playing, you sit glued to your mobile device for that payout hour. Every. Single. Day. I don't know, maybe when you found this game in your App Store, you said to yourself "Gee, I'd really like to collect and battle with a deathrooper and shoretrooper, a Tusken shaman and Darth sidious". If you did, then congrats, things really worked out for you. As someone who is obviously a lot older and wiser than you, as a child I owned a plastic Darth Vader bust carrying case with about 100 3" tall action figures inside (Some of the poor kids in the neighborhood only had 10 but that's another story ) and I'd kind of like to collect and play with some of the more iconic characters in this universe.

If you can remember back in my thread I miss my payout more days than not because of work.

When you are "Farming for Quantity" don't expect to get your toons to the highest "quality"

Also, I can see you have geared only the classics like Ima Gun Di, FOO and the most iconic character ever Bistan; because like you said you are much older than me. Which you must have guessed correctly and makes you completely right.

"Mvnson;884246" wrote:

"MrCaptaintoyou;884236" wrote:
what great fun it would have been to have some magic plastic toy lady bring me toys and all the gear.

I don't understand where this comes from? Ignorance? Low IQ?

Never has anyone asked to be "given" anything.

What you small timers don't understand is that raising the gear level to 11 and soon to be 12 has doubled the gear requirements. That's fine to increase the demand, when you proportionally raise the supply. They have not increased the supply of purple gear in the entirety of this games lifespan.

Actually, I take that back. Purple hairdryers are in the challenges ONLY because TI and a group of whales cried foul about 10 months ago. True story, look it up if you weren't around then...

Can somebody fact check me on this but does the HAAT give out gear? If not I could have swore I got a lot of new gear someplace. Maybe it was tournements or Heroic Rancor raids. I can't remember though my IQ is too low.

"Mvnson;884246" wrote:

"MrCaptaintoyou;884236" wrote:
what great fun it would have been to have some magic plastic toy lady bring me toys and all the gear.

I don't understand where this comes from? Ignorance? Low IQ?

Never has anyone asked to be "given" anything.

What you small timers don't understand is that raising the gear level to 11 and soon to be 12 has doubled the gear requirements. That's fine to increase the demand, when you proportionally raise the supply. They have not increased the supply of purple gear in the entirety of this games lifespan.

Actually, I take that back. Purple hairdryers are in the challenges ONLY because TI and a group of whales cried foul about 10 months ago. True story, look it up if you weren't around then...

https://swgoh.gg/u/captainrrl/

I started before tfa came out. Patience paid off.

"MrCaptaintoyou;884255" wrote:

"Mvnson;884246" wrote:

"MrCaptaintoyou;884236" wrote:
what great fun it would have been to have some magic plastic toy lady bring me toys and all the gear.

I don't understand where this comes from? Ignorance? Low IQ?

Never has anyone asked to be "given" anything.

What you small timers don't understand is that raising the gear level to 11 and soon to be 12 has doubled the gear requirements. That's fine to increase the demand, when you proportionally raise the supply. They have not increased the supply of purple gear in the entirety of this games lifespan.

Actually, I take that back. Purple hairdryers are in the challenges ONLY because TI and a group of whales cried foul about 10 months ago. True story, look it up if you weren't around then...

https://swgoh.gg/u/captainrrl/

This can't be right? How do you take 1st in arena without 50 maxed toons or sitting by your phone 23.5 hours a day. This is unbelievable.