Start hoarding mods (edited)

"TVF;c-1595607" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1595532" wrote:
The reason to do that NOW is that when the changes go through, upgrading lower tier mods will first show hidden secondary stats BEFORE upgrading one of those stats once all four are revealed. That means that instead of leveling a green with secondary to 3 and always getting an upgrade to speed, you would have to level it to 12 to first reveal the theee hidden stats and then upgrade one of the four stats.

I'm going to continue to insist that no one here knows anything because

To better represent the value of the mod, we are separating improving the level of the mod from improving the Tier of the mod. In the future, as you level a mod up to level 15, you will reveal all four secondary stats. You will not see the color change any longer as you level the mod. By revealing the secondary stats prior to leveling up slicing the secondary stats, we’re trying to give players the choice whether they want to invest in a mod before spending anything on it.

She clarified it, but it's still not clear. If you have to level the mod to see the secondaries, you still have to invest to do so...or not?

I think she means before investing slicing materials, as opposed to credits, but who knows for sure?

There are some assumptions built into my explanation, but those assumptions are based upon the most logical reading of what they have said (follow up comments from Crumb as well) and applying it to how mods work now.

I don’t mention gold mods because it does not appear they are going to change at all under the new system. They are always worth leveling to 12 if they have speed and still will be (with rare exception, like they start with 3 secondary speed and don’t improve speed at lvl 3, 6 or 9. Probably not worth the last three levels in that case).

"SoonerJBD;c-1595667" wrote:

"TVF;c-1595607" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1595532" wrote:
The reason to do that NOW is that when the changes go through, upgrading lower tier mods will first show hidden secondary stats BEFORE upgrading one of those stats once all four are revealed. That means that instead of leveling a green with secondary to 3 and always getting an upgrade to speed, you would have to level it to 12 to first reveal the theee hidden stats and then upgrade one of the four stats.

I'm going to continue to insist that no one here knows anything because

To better represent the value of the mod, we are separating improving the level of the mod from improving the Tier of the mod. In the future, as you level a mod up to level 15, you will reveal all four secondary stats. You will not see the color change any longer as you level the mod. By revealing the secondary stats prior to leveling up slicing the secondary stats, we’re trying to give players the choice whether they want to invest in a mod before spending anything on it.

She clarified it, but it's still not clear. If you have to level the mod to see the secondaries, you still have to invest to do so...or not?

I think she means before investing slicing materials, as opposed to credits, but who knows for sure?

There are some assumptions built into my explanation, but those assumptions are based upon the most logical reading of what they have said (follow up comments from Crumb as well) and applying it to how mods work now.

Logic ain't got nuthin' to do with this place tho!

Wow... I don't always agree with the devs - in 2018 it's at an all time low - but I'm thinking they were right about people not knowing how mods work...
Anyways - The only thing, the ONE THING, I'm not clear about is if AFTER Mods 2.0 - will a green mod that only had speed - still always upgrade speed (100% of the time) or not (25% like golds mods have been because all four abilities will be shown).
If not - that's the one thing you could make sure you don't pass up now - because they'll be a little more RNG friendly when it comes to slicing later on (read, slightly slicey...)
What I would ALSO REALLY like is if you could "break" current gold mods that didn't get a speed increase on one of the levels - and take a chance at a second roll - that's some crazy gambling, of course - but that would make this whole slicing thing potentially worthwhile.

"Vestrit;c-1595853" wrote:
Sooner, what you are ignoring tho is the higher cost of cantina energy now, compared to after the change. when you see all 4 stats you will get a lot more speed sec mods. so it is a decision to make if you value credits over cantina energy really.

Except you have to PAY to see all four stats via leveling each mod. If you pay to level each green mod to 9 so you can see all of its stats, then pay again for level 12 to get your 1 in 4 shot at a speed upgrade, you are going to run out of credits in a matter of days.

Did the math for blue mods.

Average credit investment: 30 million (Assuming you don’t chase blue mods that don’t start with speed. Leveling every blue mod to 6 to see if it shows speed will cost extra).
Average number of five-pip blue mods with secondary speed you will have to farm: 256.
Average slicing mats necessary: Enough to slice 20 mods (16 once, 4 a second time).

That would be to acquire, level and slice one blue mod to four speed improvements.

Mods have an approximately 13% chance to have a speed secondary. Just in case anyone was curious. About 4% chance to land a color mod with speed visible

"SoonerJBD;c-1595663" wrote:

"Edward;c-1595604" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1595532" wrote:

"Edward;c-1595361" wrote:

"Empiric1;c-1595354" wrote:

"Ravens1113;c-1595311" wrote:
So their solution to something that wasn’t really all that complicated in the first place was to make it 10x more complicated...ummm....ooooook?

Haha, I was about to say this. I love CG, we are going to make mods simpler to use by adding another RNG mechanic that most players won't have a clue how to use efficiently- *introduce slicing*.

So am I getting this straight, best thing now is to buy/farm green/blue mods, upgrade once or twice if blue and then use the slicing mat to hopefully get an extra 5/6 speed ?

Best thing is to buy mods with speed and upgrade to lv 9~12 now, we may need Cantina energy to farm the materials used for slicing, there is drop rate to consider too.

False. You should NEVER upgrade a blue or green to 9 or 12 by default.

Hi, I didn’t do it wrong, speed might increase at 6, 9 and 12, not sure why you mentioned 3. Also, I have seen speed secondary increased at lv 12 once, not sure why you left it out, cannot remember it’s colour, remember it’s not gold, didn’t know that before at all, plus I need to see all four status and get them ready to use, so 9 to see if and how much speed increases, I don’t just want see if it increases, need to see how much, 12 to see all four status plus final speed.

Speed is most important to me, other status matter too.

Last but not least, I want to avoid farming materials for slicing or do slicing to my existing mods, so 12 it has to be.

You clearly don’t understand how mods upgrade currently let alone their explanation of how the system is going to change. This stuff is available in lots of places. I’m done with remedial mods 101.

You’re crazy, man! I thought you’re done but you’ve continued to post here.

Nobody asked you to do anything here, don’t feel you have to. You clearly don’t know mods so stop pretending so, no one needs you remedy anything here.

I have 570+ mods with speed, how many do you have? This is not a question in case you fel you’re compelled to answer.

I sincerely hope you can stop replying in my thread.

"Edward;c-1596005" wrote:
I have 570+ mods with speed, how many do you have? This is not a question in case you fel you’re compelled to answer.

It is a question, however it's not a relevant one.

"Edward;c-1596005" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1595663" wrote:

"Edward;c-1595604" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1595532" wrote:

"Edward;c-1595361" wrote:

"Empiric1;c-1595354" wrote:

"Ravens1113;c-1595311" wrote:
So their solution to something that wasn’t really all that complicated in the first place was to make it 10x more complicated...ummm....ooooook?

Haha, I was about to say this. I love CG, we are going to make mods simpler to use by adding another RNG mechanic that most players won't have a clue how to use efficiently- *introduce slicing*.

So am I getting this straight, best thing now is to buy/farm green/blue mods, upgrade once or twice if blue and then use the slicing mat to hopefully get an extra 5/6 speed ?

Best thing is to buy mods with speed and upgrade to lv 9~12 now, we may need Cantina energy to farm the materials used for slicing, there is drop rate to consider too.

False. You should NEVER upgrade a blue or green to 9 or 12 by default.

Hi, I didn’t do it wrong, speed might increase at 6, 9 and 12, not sure why you mentioned 3. Also, I have seen speed secondary increased at lv 12 once, not sure why you left it out, cannot remember it’s colour, remember it’s not gold, didn’t know that before at all, plus I need to see all four status and get them ready to use, so 9 to see if and how much speed increases, I don’t just want see if it increases, need to see how much, 12 to see all four status plus final speed.

Speed is most important to me, other status matter too.

Last but not least, I want to avoid farming materials for slicing or do slicing to my existing mods, so 12 it has to be.

You clearly don’t understand how mods upgrade currently let alone their explanation of how the system is going to change. This stuff is available in lots of places. I’m done with remedial mods 101.

You’re crazy, man! I thought you’re done but you’ve continued to post here.

Nobody asked you to do anything here, don’t feel you have to. You clearly don’t know mods so stop pretending so, no one needs you remedy anything here.

I have 570+ mods with speed, how many do you have? This is not a question in case you fel you’re compelled to answer.

I sincerely hope you can stop replying in my thread.

If it has a question mark, it’s a question. I don’t count all mods with secondary speed because who cares if you have a bunch of +5 speed mods? I have about 200 mods with at least 10 secondary speed. SWGOH.gg says I have 500 mods with secondary speed applied to characters, plus 120 speed arrows. I’m guessing I have another hundred or so secondary speed mods sitting in my inventory not assigned because they are in that 7-9 range where they aren’t going to improve on what I have already assigned to the toons I use. Plus a couple dozen or more speed arrows I have in reserve or haven’t leveled. What do I win?

The fact that you created a thread does not mean you get to dictate who replies to that thread. If you want to post things that are factually wrong, you can expect to be corrected.